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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Man, I can only imagine Viserys next thought as he casually plucks that particular thread. "Thought you could get one over Viserys Targaryen, did you? They don't call me Dread Sorcerer for nothing."

@Goldfish If only we could reverse the channel on that thing and peer back at the bugger. In fact if we had Miracle that's what I would have suggested.
 
Goldfish said:
Ah...that feeling you get when you realize the +10 Competence bonus to Spellcraft you added to Viserys' ring this month made itself useful so soon... :cool:

[X] Dispel the cloak clasp causing the subtle but unstable enchantment to unravel and reveal the divination focus in full
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Crake said:
[:V] Cheekily: "One moment, my Lord. We have undesirable company. Hello, you little blighter."
-[:V] Greater Dispel Magic the clasp.
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No attempt at using this to plant some disinformation?
Edit: Wasn't our office warded against divination?
 
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MTB said:
No attempt at using this to plant some disinformation?
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It depends on if we want to turn this into another blade in our Anti-Devil countermeasures next turn, though if we do we can't make use of this Florent. Not while he's being watched/we haven't confirmed his complicity. He's an asset that would be too hot to handle.
 
Crake said:
Man, I can only imagine Viserys next thought as he casually plucks that particular thread. "Thought you could get one over Viserys Targaryen, did you? They don't call me Dread Sorcerer for nothing."

@Goldfish If only we could reverse the channel on that thing and peer back at the bugger. In fact if we had Miracle that's what I would have suggested.
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That would be neat, but probably impossible for us right now, since this thing is meant to be exceptionally well hidden magically.

I agree that Miracle, or some other 9th level Wild Arcana shenanigans could maybe give us a chance, but we aren't quite there yet. :(
 
Crake said:
It depends on if we want to turn this into another blade in our Anti-Devil countermeasures next turn, though if we do we can't make use of this Florent. Not while he's being watched/we haven't confirmed his complicity. He's an asset that would be too hot to handle.
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If we dispel the brooch clasp he's burned, too.
 
Crake said:
It depends on if we want to turn this into another blade in our Anti-Devil countermeasures next turn, though if we do we can't make use of this Florent. Not while he's being watched/we haven't confirmed his complicity. He's an asset that would be too hot to handle.
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well if its unstable we may be able to reconvene later.
 
Goldfish said:
That would be neat, but probably impossible for us right now, since this thing is meant to be exceptionally well hidden magically.

I agree that Miracle, or some other 9th level Wild Arcana shenanigans could maybe give us a chance, but we aren't quite there yet. :(
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Sad day, that Devil or Fey would be shitting their pants if we could and did.
 
@Goldfish I agree with MTB actually, this guy is too hot to handle either way. Reevaluate, we need to feed him some line of bullshit and figure out where the rot runs over the course of next month.
 
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Snowfire said:
Imperial Grade WBLmancy strikes again!
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To be fair, a +10 Competence bonus only costs 10,000 gold at baseline. Any reasonably successful 17th level character could afford that.

Of course, they might have issues having +10 Competence boosting enchantments done for Spellcraft, Concentration, Diplomacy, and Sense Motive in one month...
 
Keep in mind that if you dispel Ser Erren will likely demand an explanation as to what you did and who might have been spying on him. Best to have the answers to those questions in the vote so we can move along with longer parts.
 
Crake said:
Man, I can only imagine Viserys next thought as he casually plucks that particular thread. "Thought you could get one over Viserys Targaryen, did you? They don't call me Dread Sorcerer for nothing."

@Goldfish If only we could reverse the channel on that thing and peer back at the bugger. In fact if we had Miracle that's what I would have suggested.
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Now I have the idea of taking him to our trophy room and saying to him and this where I will put your head right under mammons shitting area. Then pausing and saying unwelcomed observer and dispelling it.
 
Fact of the matter is he's burnt either way, sure that may not mean much, for example next turn we intend on doing a clean sweep of Devils in the Reach, but it does forewarn them if they're particularly on the ball, and they must already be twitchy if they have suspicions about their Spider. The fact that Viserys isn't responding to any of their agents or even interacting with them anymore being one of them.

Only the fact that they've been compartmentalizing even more so than usual might slow the spread of all we've been up to. This guy is being watched by someone in the Reach for sure, Devil or Fey, and we want to go in with the enemy more blind than us.
 
@Crake - bullshit line: recruiting speech? Do we want it to be successful (and Erren having an accident at home) or subtly unsuccessful, to plant the impression not everyone visiting our office becomes our man?
 
MTB said:
@Crake - bullshit line: recruiting speech? Do we want it to be successful (and Erren having an accident at home) or subtly unsuccessful, to plant the impression not everyone visiting our office becomes our man?
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We could just recruit him and keep him occupied until we move on the Reach. This is the kind of asset they would use to spy on us and our doings over a long period of time. They're not expecting us to move in force on them all at once.
 
DragonParadox said:
Keep in mind that if you dispel Ser Erren will likely demand an explanation as to what you did and who might have been spying on him. Best to have the answers to those questions in the vote so we can move along with longer parts.
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How about we instead put him on the back foot, so to speak, before he even has a chance to question our actions?

[X] Dispel the cloak clasp causing the subtle but unstable enchantment to unravel and reveal the divination focus in full
-[X] After Dispelling the focus, ask "Would you care to explain why you brought such a potent and well hidden enchantment meant to serve as a target for magical Divination into the heart of my realm, Ser Florent?"
 
Crake said:
We could just recruit him and keep him occupied until we move on the Reach. This is the kind of asset they would use to spy on us and our doings over a long period of time. They're not expecting us to move in force on them all at once.
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Then we need to handle him carefully - Inquisition job to feed him plausible but subtly incorrect info? Must stand-up to attempts to verify, of course, so - Jungle expedition or north of the wall shenanigans?
 
MTB said:
Then we need to handle him carefully - Inquisition job to feed him plausible but subtly incorrect info? Must stand-up to attempts to verify, of course, so - Jungle expedition or north of the wall shenanigans?
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Azel wanted to spread misinformation next turn, this could just be the tip of that arrow, honestly, and we can make use of him later, or dispose of him quietly if he's complicit. The fact of the matter is questioning him and revealing the focus now gives us nothing. There is no tangible benefit to it, and he does no harm with us having full foreknowledge he's a pawn, either fully involved or unaware, and that he should be handled at arms length by our agents.
 
Crake said:
Azel wanted to spread misinformation next turn, this could just be the tip of that arrow, honestly, and we can make use of him later, or dispose of him quietly if he's complicit. The fact of the matter is questioning him and revealing the focus now gives us nothing. There is no tangible benefit to it, and he does no harm with us having full foreknowledge he's a pawn, either fully involved or unaware, and that he should be handled at arms length by our agents.
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Do you know out of hand the political situation with this guy? Would he be open to just stay here? Or should we openly recruit him, send him back to his family knowing he'll either be killed or subverted to play us?
 
@Goldfish, I trust you with any full combat plan, but I know what I'm talking about here. There is absolutely no reason to reveal that we know he's being watched. In either scenario, we only do one of the following.

1) Reveal he's been skunked. He's complicit, we have to not only dispose of him but reveal that we know we were being watched. Now the enemy is on guard.
2) Reveal he's been skunked. He's not complicit, but we can't find out who was watching on the other side. We might be able to find where it was manufactured, but we can't move on it right now. Or worse case, we have something that requires a full action to research for Intel, when we plan on moving against this same ring of informants and saboteurs next turn, making it a pointless gesture.

MTB said:
Do you know out of hand the political situation with this guy? Would he be open to just stay here? Or should we openly recruit him, send him back to his family knowing he'll either be killed or subverted to play us?
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Contriving to keep him here is for the best, at least for the short term. We have to investigate him some point in the next turn.
 
Crake said:
@Goldfish, I trust you with any full combat plan, but I know what I'm talking about here. There is absolutely no reason to reveal that we know he's being watched. In either scenario, we only do one of the following.

1) Reveal he's been skunked. He's complicit, we have to not only dispose of him but reveal that we know we were being watched. Now the enemy is on guard.
2) Reveal he's been skunked. He's not complicit, but we can't find out who was watching on the other side. We might be able to find where it was manufactured, but we can't move on it right now. Or worse case, we have something that requires a full action to research for Intel, when we plan on moving against this same ring of informants and saboteurs next turn, making it a pointless gesture.

Contriving to keep him here is for the best, at least for the short term. We have to investigate him some point in the next turn.
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[X] Crake

It's all your's, dude. :p
 
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