Sometimes I wonder if Bloodraven looks to the future that would have been and cries tears of joy that instead of Bran he gets Viserys.

Well, he could still be planning to put another TER to replace him so he can get out of his contract with the OG.

That might not be necessary in the end though, if we handle Winter for good.
 
Well, he could still be planning to put another TER to replace him so he can get out of his contract with the OG.

That might not be necessary in the end though, if we handle Winter for good.
We can probably just pay in sacrifices along with a hefty amount of research to go with it until a greenseer is born among our Children of the Forest. That can be Bloodraven's replacement.

We have too much invested in the Old Gods for them to be led by Bran of all people, so I'm down for literally anyone other than him to take the reigns after Bloodraven gets free.
 
We can probably just pay in sacrifices along with a hefty amount of research to go with it until a greenseer is born among our Children of the Forest. That can be Bloodraven's replacement.

We have too much invested in the Old Gods for them to be led by Bran of all people, so I'm down for literally anyone other than him to take the reigns after Bloodraven gets free.

A fair assessment.
 
Isn't Arya the replacement in this time period or am I remembering wrong? As for Euron.....I want to hear this conversation.
 
Well, he could still be planning to put another TER to replace him so he can get out of his contract with the OG.

That might not be necessary in the end though, if we handle Winter for good.
If nothing else we can probably make a replacement for him in the Fungus Forge if we upgrade it, CR10 don't seem enough, but if it was upgraded to be able to make up to CR15, then someone able to do his job if not as well should be within it's power.
 
I would like to remind you here that it took 3 or 4 days to make the Serpents Sin, so having to invest 3 man-months into the Harbinger seems a tad weird as a requirement to get the Mythic output.
The requirement y'all are proposing would be making it by herself.

Which would take a fair amount of time. Not much, in the grand scheme of things, considering reduced prices and double-dipping with wrights, but a fair amount.
 
Isn't Arya the replacement in this time period or am I remembering wrong? As for Euron.....I want to hear this conversation.
Chosen of the Old Gods doesn't necessarily mean greenseer. Greenseers get stuck in the weirwood root system. Arya is a proper druid, she's meant to walk the world and work the will of the gods in person.
 
Is two days normal travel time? I suck at ASOIAF scale.
The trip was actually shorter than that, Driftmark is right in Blackwater Bay, actually closer to KL than Dragonstone. It was less than a day by ship, he just didn't leave immediately.
Isn't a bit of a step over the mark for these kinds of promises to be made without Viserys' decision?
Monford wouldn't think so, this was all 'standard westerosi political dealing 101,' he'd have no reason to think Viserys would have a problem with any of it.
 
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The trip was actually shorter than that, Driftmark is right in Blackwater Bay, actually closer to KL than Dragonstone. It was less than a day by ship, he just didn't leave immediately.

Monford wouldn't think so, this was all 'standard westerosi political dealing 101,' he'd have no reason to think Viserys would have a problem with any of it.
I for one appreciate Monford keeping the Crownlanders occupied until we have time to deal with them.
 
Well, he brokered a few betrothals and handed out a keep somewhere in Essos, which is such a hyper-specific promise that it can be anywhere from the Disputed Lands to the Bone Mountains. I honestly couldn't give half a shit about those promises, as they are utterly inconsequential on our scale.
 
Well, he brokered a few betrothals and handed out a keep somewhere in Essos, which is such a hyper-specific promise that it can be anywhere from the Disputed Lands to the Bone Mountains. I honestly couldn't give half a shit about those promises, as they are utterly inconsequential on our scale.
Not to mention that the promise of "a castle in Essos" left zero specification of how much land is attached to it, so if we really cared we could just make it a small keep and a few dozen acres surrounding it, basically what a landed knight would have.
 
I for one appreciate Monford keeping the Crownlanders occupied until we have time to deal with them.
Also something note is that these people were the 'fence-sitters,' not hardcore loyalists like the Darrys or Brunes. They flipped before we took the Three Daughters to their credit, but signing on for the Dragon King was a significant risk - even if they hated the Lannisters already - and one they expected to be reciprocated for.
Well, he brokered a few betrothals and handed out a keep somewhere in Essos, which is such a hyper-specific promise that it can be anywhere from the Disputed Lands to the Bone Mountains. I honestly couldn't give half a shit about those promises, as they are utterly inconsequential on our scale.
There was more than that, I was just showing the nature of the deals exchanged. Half of it's a reward, half to prove they're committed and won't back out. Land in Essos is one of the better bribes Velayron can offer, and he figures there won't be any shortage of it.
Not to mention that the promise of "a castle in Essos" left zero specification of how much land is attached to it, so if we really cared we could just make it a small keep and a few dozen acres surrounding it, basically what a landed knight would have.
That's pretty much what he and Lord Buckwell were expecting. Elston got that in particular since he pulled the stunt with the Pointsman and has a lot of spare sons.
 
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"I speak of all of them," the Last Greenseer says. "The ones I set near Harroway, the cunning stone-folk who I offered passage into the Red Mountains lest the ever-snowy peeks fall under Winter's sway, even of their darker kindred—Redcaps, Rusalka, and Spriggan who rise from the blood-soaked soil of the Vale of Arryn—they are all drunk on mortal dreams or nightmares." He takes a deep rattling breath, the crimson eye once more looking fully upon the world of flesh. "As with all drunks that presents an opportunity to bargain from advantage."
Just a heads-up, "Rusalka" is singular, the plural would be "Rusalky". Or just anglicized Rusalkas would be fine too.
 
Also something note is that these people were the 'fence-sitters,' not hardcore loyalists like the Darrys or Brunes. They flipped before we took the Three Daughters to their credit, but signing on for the Dragon King was a significant risk - even if they hated the Lannisters already - and one they expected to be reciprocated for.
I honestly don't hold it against them for jumping ship. It's very, very clear who's going to be the master of Prime Material when the dust settles.
That's pretty much what he and Lord Buckwell wet eexpecting. Elston got that in particular since he pulled the stunt with the Pointsman and had a lot of spare sons.
On the flipside I don't mind handing out bigger pieces of land if the spare sons (and potentially daughters if the opportunity arises) prove that they're worth the investment. Anyone who offers themselves up to be trained as a PC is automatically going to get a lot from us.
 
Not to mention that the promise of "a castle in Essos" left zero specification of how much land is attached to it, so if we really cared we could just make it a small keep and a few dozen acres surrounding it, basically what a landed knight would have.
You know what would be neat pieces of "land" to give those in our service, or to at least give them stewardship of? The large waypoint towns established on our bridges crossing sizeable bodies of water. Once we build them, of course.
 
You know what would be neat pieces of "land" to give those in our service, or to at least give them stewardship of? The large waypoint towns established on our bridges crossing sizeable bodies of water. Once we build them, of course.
That would actually be very neat. Being a Mayor of a Waypoint Town would be rather lucrative by its very nature.
 
Also something note is that these people were the 'fence-sitters,' not hardcore loyalists like the Darrys or Brunes. They flipped before we took the Three Daughters to their credit, but signing on for the Dragon King was a significant risk - even if they hated the Lannisters already - and one they expected to be reciprocated for.

There was more than that, I was just showing the nature of the deals exchanged. Half of it's a reward, half to prove they're committed and won't back out. Land in Essos is one of the better bribes Velayron can offer, and he figures there won't be any shortage of it.

That's pretty much what he and Lord Buckwell were expecting. Elston got that in particular since he pulled the stunt with the Pointsman and has a lot of spare sons.

Man they got to be more confident now that Viserys conquered the Three Daughters. Anymore men that are sitting on the fence got to be considering to join up now.
 
Those may actually require mercantile competence though.
Nobody unworthy is getting appointed a Mayor of the Waypoint Towns. If a candidate proves to be unknowledgeable in either economics or governance then they aren't going to be considered.
Man they got to be more confident now that Viserys conquered the Three Daughters. Anymore men that are sitting on the fence got to be considering to join up now.
It's hard to be a loyalist. It's not like we've got a huge presence in Westeros at the moment with our focus currently in Essos, so if an angry Lion turns to you, you mostly have to fend for yourself.
 
I've talked with DP over PM and it seems our Intrigue action budget will look good next turn. We get Shara Rhogara as a Intrigue Hero and the base in Myr has finished. That brings us up a total of 3 more Intrigue actions in comparison to last turn, Lys and Myr being steadily spied on and we got the outpost in Kings Landing finished too.

On the matter of next turns Inquisition expansion, here is what it will take:
Location Outpost Base Note
Mantary
26​
52​
 
Tolos
33​
66​
 
Basilisk Isles
1​
2​
actually 3 provinces, combining them due to minuscle effort needed
Naath
1​
2​
might be worth rolling into the Basilisk Isles effort
Kings Landing -
20​
DP confirmed that this would also include rolling up the remainder of Varys operations here
Astapor
16​
32​
esimated effort needed
Yunkai
14​
28​
esimated effort needed
Mereen
32​
64​
esimated effort needed
New Ghis
12​
24​
esimated effort needed
Mantarys and Tolos are pretty difficult to deal with, as we need to cover a lot of hinterland that seamlessly bleeds over into the lawless Painted Mountains and the lovely hellscape of Valyria. All the more reason to get going on it in my book though, as getting up outposts at least would help tremendously against gribblies streaming in and Ghiscari assassins annoying our vassals.

There's also a slight issue in regards to population size affecting the necessary effort. City states like Lys are easier to get a grip on then city states with huge, sprawling hinterland like Mantarys, Tolos and Slavers Bay. The exception to the rule here is New Ghis, which is likewise an island with comparatively small population figures. All values on Slavers Bay are not approved by DP, but merely my estimate.

So we got our work cut out for us with we really want to undermine Slavers Bay.
 
There was more than that, I was just showing the nature of the deals exchanged. Half of it's a reward, half to prove they're committed and won't back out. Land in Essos is one of the better bribes Velayron can offer, and he figures there won't be any shortage of it.
*looks at map*

He could hand out areas the size of Dragonstone and I wouldn't be concerned with it.
On the flipside I don't mind handing out bigger pieces of land if the spare sons (and potentially daughters if the opportunity arises) prove that they're worth the investment. Anyone who offers themselves up to be trained as a PC is automatically going to get a lot from us.
My agreement here. Competence gets rewarded. Always.
 
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