I can confirm that yes a spellbook is not intrinsically magical, though they certainly can be enchanted.
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I can confirm that yes a spellbook is not intrinsically magical, though they certainly can be enchanted.
egoo
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@DragonParadox, again theoretically, would a Mind Blank, or an effect of the sort, be enough to protect the contents of Varys' mind, from the same thing that happened with Uniila?
I.E., would his mind be safe from havong important details wiped from it externally, like what Mammon pulled on our sweet precious book?
I.E., would his mind be safe from havong important details wiped from it externally, like what Mammon pulled on our sweet precious book?
Crake
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[X] Plan Secure The Package, Cover Our Ass
-[X] "Merely apprehending a heinous diabolist, ladies and gentlemen. Do not be..." well, no point bidding them not to be alarmed.
-[X] Turtle and Bottle Varys for now. Send Rhaella, Nuri, Aradia and Vee to the Wind House to report on the altercation (not the full one, merely one with enough details to show courtesy towards the local magical law enforcement).
--[X] Varys will be stripped of all magical items or anything dangerous, mechanical or otherwise, documents, whatever.
-[X] Viserys and Dany will go straight to the Sealord's Palace to make an account of our actions. It's merely fortunate that, although some powerful magic was thrown around, most of it was either flashy and harmless or powerful and understated, so Ferrego can get a headstart on claiming it was a sanctioned action--and he would have wanted to, regardless. We will make a similar report in the secure against divination manner possible about what kind of ilk Varys trucked with, and caution him to increase security in the short term against possible agents of Tiamat or Mammon, such as fiends, cultists and spies. Suggest finally that we open up an Inquisition office in Braavos with his blessing, to better coordinate our efforts.
-[X] "Merely apprehending a heinous diabolist, ladies and gentlemen. Do not be..." well, no point bidding them not to be alarmed.
-[X] Turtle and Bottle Varys for now. Send Rhaella, Nuri, Aradia and Vee to the Wind House to report on the altercation (not the full one, merely one with enough details to show courtesy towards the local magical law enforcement).
--[X] Varys will be stripped of all magical items or anything dangerous, mechanical or otherwise, documents, whatever.
-[X] Viserys and Dany will go straight to the Sealord's Palace to make an account of our actions. It's merely fortunate that, although some powerful magic was thrown around, most of it was either flashy and harmless or powerful and understated, so Ferrego can get a headstart on claiming it was a sanctioned action--and he would have wanted to, regardless. We will make a similar report in the secure against divination manner possible about what kind of ilk Varys trucked with, and caution him to increase security in the short term against possible agents of Tiamat or Mammon, such as fiends, cultists and spies. Suggest finally that we open up an Inquisition office in Braavos with his blessing, to better coordinate our efforts.
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lockingbane
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Hmmm, I have some ideas about how to ward spell books and to make them standard (to protect them from being stolen and studied).
Perhaps a nice and simple self destruction spell or maybe something devious like releasing a bound flesh forge creature that will act as a guardian....
So many ideas, so little time
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@Crake, as a matter of course he should be stripped of all magic items before he's bottled. We should be leaving absolutely nothing to chance.
What do you have in mind? We already have the buffing sequence through Dany, and we have Nine Lives and Stalwart Pact and Pact of Renewal.
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Real talk, Just as Viserys pointed out, Dark Sister was the big risk there but... just how much would that scroll have cost us if it went off?
Secondary question, if someone got a proper disjunction off on the whole Companion strike team and Viserys, what are we talking about, cost wise?
Secondary question, if someone got a proper disjunction off on the whole Companion strike team and Viserys, what are we talking about, cost wise?
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I think a god could make one, a god of magic I mean.
The book contains knowledge, ink on paper is not vulnerable to any kind of dispelling as far as I know.
Is her spell book written in arcane marks or something?
Erinyes, great with children!
Seriously we have had them do a lot of babysitting.
Which I imagine is very weird for them
Mind blank would not help there. the conection would go as deep as the soul.
Snowfire
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If: In the area of effect of Disjunction
Then: Greater Dispel Magic as Counterspell
Crake
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How do we arrange that as a contingency? I'm all for it, I just don't know how you'd do it.
Excellent.
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egoo
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@everyone, I'm out of ideas, except for buying an orphne-made GodDeal-breaker.
We probably should prioritise buying one and using on Varys now.
And not getting his Mindblank item off him, so that his lords know not of him being captured, mmkay? @Crake, that's to you specifically right now.
Crake
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The answer is Goldfish suggested it, no one said anything, and he dropped it.
He's just busy tracking only a billion other things, so if you want to suggest a bunch of contingency spells and constantly alternate clauses for them, feel free. Nothing stopping you.
Crake
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This helps naught at all. An unraveling separates the invested power of the God kept to fulfill the contract, which Dany only kept hold of because she made a deal with her DoppleDany and Tiamat was a shithead.
The knowledge would likely be lost to a Varys dopple.
I told you before don't act as though we have any way to stop an Archfiend or even a Lesser Deity from taking their due as part of a full-on Pact. We have nothing to stop that. We did no research.
Snowfire
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You...cast the spell. It takes 10 minutes. You are then protected from that particular circumstance for 1 day/CL or until the Contingency is discharged. It's pretty darn simple. We'd have to teach Lya the spell, obviously, but still.
Although to be fair, given our gear Disjunction isn't actually as scary as you might think. If Varys had managed to cast the scroll, our Ring of Spell Battle would have been able to shift the point where the spell manifested to 60' straight up and Disjunction is a 40' radius burst effect.
Alas that you can only ever have one Contingency. I'm sure there are other spells like it though, I'll go looking when I get home on Monday. Spell Sequencer is ringing a bell for me...
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Crake
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@egoo Re:Mindblank, take it up with @DragonParadox if we can keep him under the effects of Mindblank despite the fact that I'm not sure if the effects will keep once polymorphed or put into a bottle. He's going straight into the Artifact Cloak on our Mindblanked self anyway.
egoo
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@DragonParadox, would keeping Varys near Yss' avatar/Melin King's altar/OG's Heart Tree provide sufficient protection/distortion against Mammon wiping the information, given us handling sacrifices as needed?
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Snowfire
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Ah, that was it. Simbul's Spell Matrix and Spell Sequencer. For all your 'lets fucking shatter the action economy for spellcasters' needs.
*rolls knowledge religion*
It would indeed help, though Viserys can't be 100% sure it would work since we are talking about the mechanics of divine power
Crake
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Someone suggest all the paranoid procedures you want to take and I'll add them in, as it stands what I wrote is pretty total of what we are capable of doing. He's turned into a non-intelligent animal while put into a smoky confinement bottle. If taken out of the bottle he is still an animal. We're under the effects of Mindblank. The interior of the cloak is a pocket dimension, and the cloak is an Artifact with a capital A.
egoo
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@everyone, do you guys think it would be a good idea to actively
Won't get more secure for us than that.
Is there a way to ensure he's never left Mindblank-less while we are capturing him?
I feel that'd be a giant red flag to everyone he's allied with.
And he would be paranoid enough to set up a contigency that would activate only if he's left without his defenses.
@Crake, carefully check what's every magic aura on him, I suppose. Activating soemthing by taking it off wouldn't bode well.
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Hmmm... Usually I have seen it houseruled to one person gets one contingent spell. Since it is basically unstoppable otherwise.
We should work on that at some point.