A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Viserys dragon transformation or as I like to call it "maximum dragon no chill" is immune to AMF. Is it wrong that I rate the Lannisters so low as a threat
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Hey! Forget about duelling, you ego-tripping spellcasters!
[Flashbacks to Richard killing overconfident idiots]
Robert has been training with access to mages and has been actually fighting (remember the line about needing healers on hand?). He may well be over level 6 and optimised (and probably has an AMF item) and of so actually can kill us in melee. AMF + Mage Slayer + a knockdown method and he absolutely could kill a sorcerer with full BaB.
[Flashbacks to Richard killing overconfident idiots]
Robert has been training with access to mages and has been actually fighting (remember the line about needing healers on hand?). He may well be over level 6 and optimised (and probably has an AMF item) and of so actually can kill us in melee. AMF + Mage Slayer + a knockdown method and he absolutely could kill a sorcerer with full BaB.
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I was just laying out the options.Or...
Personally, I'm perfectly fine with popping Robert like a overripe watermelon with a few HE artillery shells.
We can appoint Ser Richard as a champion, I guess. But I want to at least check if we could fight the duel ourselves.
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"Robert?"
"Presumed dead under all the rubble."
"Make sure."
"Yes your majesty."
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
I say, fighting for mere PR is inefficient.
Robert can asspull something really nasty too, what with having finances of an entire kingdom behind him.
I want to just fuck him up from a safe distance and go on conquering the place.
Fuck this "honourable combat" shit.
We are a sorcerer. And a dragon.
Neither of these implies us participating in melee with elite fighters.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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We wouldn't lose a "fair" duel. We wouldn't even lose a AMF duel, probably, since we have dragon forms.
The risk is mostly in that they are probably searching high and low for a method to make us utterly powerless, not give themselves the illusion of any power over us. They are probably trying everything, from poisons, to bane weapons, to siege engines, to spells (like Wingbind and AMF) to, for all I know, trying to secure hostages against us. I am surprised there have been no kidnapping attempts. The best way to restrain our first instinct would probably be threatening to kill someone we really care about with a death effect.
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Then again, I would really love to see Lannister agents try to kidnap Dany.
Oh that would be terrifying.
For the Lannisters.
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Indeed. Always remember: Shooting is not too good for my enemies.
Our personal combat strength is very well established by now, so there is literally no reason to not just crush Robert under our warmachine like a bug.
I've no doubt they are. Except for the hostages bit. At some point all of Lanna's divinations on the matter will have started coming up 'Horrific Burning Death', and they wisely agreed to drop that.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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They: *kill someone with a Death Effect*
Us: Well, there goes that batch of sacrifices. Yss~, wakey-wakey~
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Can't accurately divine a god.
I did put emphasis on the whole "illusion of power" bit, Egoo.
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My full agreement. If they got enough intel to pull a kidnapping under our nose, they should have enough intel to know that this might have unpleasant consequences for them.
Reminder here that Hermetias father was castrated, blinded and fed to tigers after kidnapping her.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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No, we gave him poison. Remember? Because Hermetia asked us.
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Hmm if the Lannisters ever got to that point then nothing would stop the thread from taking the worst of measures. There would be no room for debate. There would be death, fire and brimstone and ash.
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Not quite. We gave him a poison that basically rendered him braindead before the whole ordeal, so he wasn't really suffering. The magisters of Volantis were quite put out by the lack of screams form their entertainment program.
But yes, because Hermetia asked us. I don't see anyone asking us to be humane to Tywin if he kidnaps Dany or Rhealla.
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Anyone who kidnaps and threatens one of our own is going to have a horrific death. I think the only reason it hasn't happened is because everyone knows what we'd do. Exhibit A -- why the Deep Ones have never tried kidnapping any of our more vulnerable citizens or people close to us, why they haven't been directly messing with our realm, etc.
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I'm against any kind of posturing or trying for specific scenarios. Wherever Robert shows up to face us, we kill him with extreme prejudice and with everything we got available.
Shadow of the Doom. Alechmical Weapons. Steam Cannons. Colony Drop. Whatever.
The only important thing is that he is dead.
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As much as I enjoy the thoughts of destroying our enemies we should really keep voting
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Where do you get that information about Barristan?
We know nothing about his build (although I did suggest a build a while back in the thread, showing that he could indeed be a level 6 Fighter).