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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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spiritualatheist said:
On the gem harvesting skill checks, couldn't the harvesters just take 10?
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Possibly. I just assumed the task wouldn't be something so mundane and relaxed that they could do it while Taking 10. It would be on the Plane of Fire, too, with the threat of Efreeti whalers or other denizens of the Plane showing up at any time, so the element of danger might also prevent it.
 
Huh.

So, DP rewrote the chapter and its no longer char-serpents.
Only a char serpent.

Kinda saddening in comparison, but whatever.

He'll have his 100HD in return for being reasonable when we tell him whom not to attack, anyway.

My plan for it and it's offspring can be largely summarised as: use to terrorize efreet; once they are done with, send off in batches to devil-infested lands.

Maybe get a pledge, eventually.
Sneks are awesome.
 
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When Azel said that the messages could hit North I thought that maybe Jon and Robb might sneak/come to the tourney. Then I realized they were both Dany's age and immediately became disappointed.
 
Goldfish said:
Are these the Fire Whale stats we're using for Baella and her fellows?

If so, the main thing they need are Intelligence boosters and something to increase their flight speed. They're actually pretty damned powerful, just slow and stupid.
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Their inner fires boil water, protecting them from the freezing cold of the ocean depths.
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@DragonParadox this is listed in the Champion Fire Whale text, do normal Fire Whales also have the capacity to naturally exist in Material Plane oceans?
 
Walliseatscheese said:
Jon could join the one v one magic fights, he's probably level two or three by this point.
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I know that this thread has no right to point this out but he's 7 maybe 8. Not everyone can be a monster like Dany. he can wait in Winterfell and train there till after we kick Westeros into some damm proper civilization. If they showed up it would be for the hilarity sake of getting caught and yelled by Eddard Stark.
 
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Just remembered. What happened to that expedition to the Plane of Water with Relath? We told him to wait a month, but just ended up forgetting about it.
 
Duesal said:
We brought this up before, and DP promptly vetoed it. Even Baella doesn't have the ability to swim anymore.
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Darn, so items of Planar Adaptation would be needed after all. And I was looking forward to Fire Whale Pod Patrols to keep back Deep Ones :p

One Autumn Leaf said:
I know that this thread has no right to point this out but he's 7 maybe 8. Not everyone can be a monster like Dany. he can wait in Winterfell and train there till after we kick Westeros into some damm proper civilization.
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I could have sworn Ser Barristan started jousting at like 10 years. In any case, I was more commenting on the ability of him competing rather than the likelihood.
 
Algalon said:
Just remembered. What happened to that expedition to the Plane of Water with Relath? We told him to wait a month, but just ended up forgetting about it.
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That was right around the time we killed Mammon. We ended up having to sacrifice the Plane of Water trip in exchange for making the Serpent's Sin cloak for Viserys (this took 3 days, and it was made a bit more difficult since we were waiting on DP to give us the requirements for making the cloak) before the meeting to make an alliance with the Djinn and the Shaitan. Relath ended up going without us, but we can always visit later to hash out some understanding with the Marid.
 
Duesal said:
That was right around the time we killed Mammon. We ended up having to sacrifice the Plane of Water trip in exchange for making the Serpent's Sin cloak for Viserys before the meeting to make an alliance with the Djinn and the Shaitan. Relath ended up going without us, but we can always visit later to hash out some understanding with the Marid.
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100% worth it.

I appreciated having that quote when the time to negociate came.
 
Hey, what's your headcanon for Barristan's build?
I always imagined him as a fighter who uses all his bonus feats for a Power Attack + Combat Expertise build, culminating in Dancing With Shadows which allows him to have a large AC bonus and a large bonus to damage without decreasing his attack much. He probably combines that with feats like Riposte and Shield Slam, which is great for sword and board fighters without Pounce. He could fit most of this in just 6 levels actually:
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Of course the ideal build would be a martial adept build, but that feels a little too magical for Barristan IMO.

Or maybe he's a tripper?

EDIT: The real issue, IMO, is the contrast between "Barristan the bold" known for his insane charges and "Barristan the elite duellist" who always wins and fights his way through a billion enemies without dying, and then takes on the enemy leader. Not sure how to make both those work at once without using Dancing With Shadows + greatsword for decent AC as well as massive damage through Power Attack, but he's also meant to be a sword and board fighter...


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How about this? Makes more sense, and is a decent sword-and-board fighting style. Works best of skill ranks are put in Perform (needs to be a class skill to qualify for Dancing with Shadows) and Tumble for charge positioning and getting around enemies. I'd give him Perform just for his noble background actually (dancing?).
1: Impetuous (Garin's "Craven" rework), Combat Expertise, Riposte, Deadly Defence, Improved Shield Bash, 2 noncombat flaws
2: Shield Charge
3: Exotic Weapon Proficiency (bastard sword? Some better melee weapon anyway)
4: Path of Shadows
6: Shield Slam, Dancing with Shadows

This way he can get in 3 attacks (BAB + Riposte) dealing 1d10+6+Str each round, while keeping a very good AC. Not insane, but not bad. Should allow him to beat most opponents just by being hard to kill and dealing consistent damage. Shield Charge is useful at the start of combat, and though it would mesh very well with a Power Attacking greatsword it also allows for an easier setup of Dancing With Shadows.
 
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TalonofAnathrax said:
Hey, what's your headcanon for Barristan's build?
I always imagined him as a fighter who uses all his bonus feats for a Power Attack + Combat Expertise build, culminating in Dancing With Shadows which allows him to have a large AC bonus and a large bonus to damage without decreasing his attack much. He probably combines that with feats like Riposte and Shield Slam, which is great for sword and board fighters without Pounce. He could fit most of this in just 6 levels actually:
1: Power Attack, Combat Expertise, Riposte, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Bastard Sword), Improved Shield Bash, 2 noncombat flaws
2: Shield Charge
3: Path of Shadows
4: Dancing with Shadows
6: Shield Slam

After level 6 I imagine he'd be taking power attack multipliers like Shock Trooper. Still, this build has good defense, good offense and decent shield use.

Of course the ideal build would be a martial adept build, but that feels a little too magical for Barristan IMO.

Or maybe he's a tripper?
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I actually imagined he would fight similar to Bronn but without the dirty tricks, a surprisingly light touch, impossible to hit always seeming to find your gaps and unafraid to smack the living shit out-a-bitch once they inevitably leave an opening.
 
Deliste said:
I actually imagined he would fight similar to Bronn but without the dirty tricks, a surprisingly light touch, impossible to hit always seeming to find your gaps and unafraid to smack the living shit out-a-bitch once they inevitably leave an opening.
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From what we saw in canon he's less of a 'jump around and dodge' kind of combatant and more of an endurance fighter, relying on his incredible skill, firm armor, and raw prowess to take everything sent at him and effortlessly exploiting each and every opening his opponents inevitably give.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
From what we saw in canon he's less of a 'jump around and dodge' kind of combatant and more of an endurance fighter, relying on his incredible skill, firm armor, and raw prowess to take everything sent at him and effortlessly exploiting each and every opening his opponents inevitably give.
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Less jumping, more deflecting and yes obviously using his equipment effectively. I'm fuzzy on Canon but I don't see him as a grit your teeth and take it kinda fighter was what I meant.
 
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So Barristan probably is one of those who've managed to FINESSE their way into learning some tricks from the The Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic with sheer skill ? I'd be cool with that. After all, DP allowed it for Richard at a point where he wasn't quite as bad ass.
 
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A_Somebody said:
So Barristan probably is one of those who've managed to FINESSE their way into learning some tricks from the The Book of Weeaboo Fightan Magic with sheer skill ? I'd be cool with that. After all, DP allowed it for Richard at a point where he wasn't quite as bad ass.
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Good point. Maybe Warblade levels?
 
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