I am actually interested in this. Yss hasn't ascended to full god status yet. It would be nice to get data on godly ascension and see what happens to the local populace and the area around it? We would be breaking so many scientific ethics with this experiment alone though.

It does raise the question of what exactly is necessary for a half-god(?)/waning god(?) to ascend.

He's got the worshipers, the temple, and even a somewhat thriving religion, if you can call what is essentially a "pay as you go plan" a religion at any rate.

It's not from lack of sacrifices I can tell you that much. There's a reason most of us have referenced a platinum funnel and I'm pretty sure at least 90% of us weren't joking when we did.
 
@DragonParadox: does Bronnwiled this because it does no show properly on his character sheet

Fleasticker

Description:

Forged by moonlight, bathed in the blood of countless bestial shapeshifters, this sword recalls the primal rage of those long dead monsters, seeming to only grow sharper and more deadly with every blow that fails to strike down the foe.

Mundane Enhancement:

Dragonskin Grip (+2 to checks against disarm attempts)

Ability:

+1
Furyborn

Mithral Sword (Counts as silver for DR-piercing purposes)

Caster Level:

7

it says he's equipped with fleasticker but unlike other magic weapons it stat are not shoe in the character sheet I does not show is there two of them ?
 
I'm not banking any hopes on her, I don't expect her to survive the fight with the bear. Putting gear on her is a waste of time and resources in my eyes. There are plenty of other wildlings to equip who don't have a death wish.

I'd argue that by employing her as an adventurer she'll become more likely to survive one v one with a werebear, at least if the employment happens before the duel. And if it's after the duel and she won or survived then that's a mark in her favor for the stupid luck that every adventurer needs.

Also, I would never risk a CotF with this. We only have 17 of them, and none of them have actually had children yet. Sending them into Other territory when we literally fought a Frost Dragon to get them out is counterproductive. Wildlings will listen to force just fine without the need of a CotF, the plan here is basically to make and equip conquerers in our name.

That's more than fair. I got a bit lost in the traditional adventurer mindset which involves "try to diplomacy so you can get repeat business" but a fourth Free Folk or Little Varylian would work just as well for the skill monkey party member.

Uthero, yeah. Didn't he want it in Westeros? And we tried to talk him into taking it in the Disputed Lands?

He wanted it in Westeros because his Childhood Friend was dead and he wanted to escape the memories. We solved that so he should be a bit more open about the location, though I wouldn't mind building him two keeps, one in the Undisputed Lands and the other in Westeros. Add a Teleportation Circle between them and he can administer both counties with ease.

Would that work? I mean, it's the Ghiscari, they have a lot of practice putting down slave rebellions, so the second this one proves extraordinarily resistant, won't everyone smell a rat?

I'd argue that the reawakening of magic makes it possible that it's a local rat, but the point was made that people would probably assume our involvement in any slave rebellions from now on.

On that note, thoughts on creating a ritual to spread out amongst slaves that would let them communicate with a representative of ours so we can become involved in any and all slave rebellions from now on?

I am actually interested in this. Yss hasn't ascended to full god status yet. It would be nice to get data on godly ascension and see what happens to the local populace and the area around it? We would be breaking so many scientific ethics with this experiment alone though.

Yss has Divine Rank 1, which is technically full god status. A small god, but full god all the same. IIRC DP decided this when he learned that DR 0 is unable to grant spells.
 
[X] Plan Dryer Then Molten Skies

-[X] The Easy Stuff
--[X] Terminate your account with the Bank of Lys, taking the 50,000 IM from that account back into the treasury. // This account is pointless and can be terminated.
--[X] Mint 8 million Imperial Marks, turning that amount of Book Money into Coinage. // Leaving some money as Book Money instead of coins. Why will become clear in a bit.
--[X] Exchange your current treasury for Imperial Marks, taking 2 million in Book Money and the remainder (2,754,627.13 IM) in coinage, thus raising the Gold Reserve by 4,754,627.13 IM. // Now we can run part of our budget without physically transferring coins for everything. Also cleans up the treasury.
--[X] Since Imperial Marks are already in limited circulation, lower the coinage and raise gold reserves by the amount DP decrees. // Should be somewhere between 100,000 and 1 million.
--[X] Until the Iron Bank has a their own offices in Amun Kelisk and the Opaline Vault, let them operate from the ACSEC premises at no charge. // Was always implied, but let's spell it out.

-[X] The Average Stuff
--[X] Deposit 2 million Imperial Marks in coinage and another 2 million Imperial Marks in book money with the Iron Bank. // This is the seed for them to exchange money and give out loans in Imperial Marks. The seed should stay the same and if they need more coinage or book money, they have to transfer us the appropriate amount of gold in return.
--[X] As a general policy, you will keep a limited amount of gold reserves for now to stay liquid in Planetosi currency, but due to the influx of wealth from the planes, gold will loose value over the coming months, thus regularly devaluing your gold reserves. // Spelling it out here, but ultimately something that we need to keep in mind for further transactions ourselves.
--[X] Decree that taxes can be paid in gold or Imperial Marks at the exchange rate. This means that people can bypass the exchange fee set by the Iron Bank when paying the Imperium, thus encouraging them to give you their gold. This somewhat decreases the market for money exchanges within the Imperium for the Iron Bank, but they will still greatly profit from exchanging for foreigners, on the planes and for other governments who will soon try to insulate their treasuries from the dropping gold price. // This means that we have a steady stream of gold coming in while Imperial Marks leave our possession. For the ease of handling, I would just flat out set our total tax income as the monthly dissemination of Imperial Marks, baring what the Iron Bank is doing in regards to loans and foreign exchanges.

-[X] The Hard Stuff
--[X] Commit to travel to Amun Kelisk first thing next month to negotiate two deals. The first is acquiring and island tethered to Amun Kelisk on which you can build the third Terminus, the other being to sell off your gold reserves at a profit. To achieve this, you will re-introduce part of the gold into the Planetosi economy by buying trade goods that the Djinn state or large trading companies are interested in. // This opens up a steady gold drain from Planetos to the Plane of Air, which will greatly slow down the devaluing of gold in Planetos, preventing economic troubles. At the same time: profit. Lots of it.
--[X] You will exchange half the Silk Notes generated by such a deal into Glass Scepters and then deposit the whole sum as foreign currency reserve. That allows you to issue more Imperial Marks, which you will promptly do. // This is how we expand our currency reserves and issue more Imperial Marks. Keep in mind here that this is mostly a shell game at this point. We are not actually creating any money at all, as we issue 1:1. The actual printing will be done in a few months when we can convince the new currency council to lower the minimum deposit we need for issuing.

Vote not yet done, but dumping what I got so far so that people can start commenting on it.
 
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I'd argue that by employing her as an adventurer she'll become more likely to survive one v one with a werebear, at least if the employment happens before the duel. And if it's after the duel and she won or survived then that's a mark in her favor for the stupid luck that every adventurer needs.
Bluntly, the werebear is a far more valuable ally in the Long Night. I want the bear to win, not the wildling.
 
[X] Azel

I tried but man my eyes kinda glazed over....

EDIT: Ok going over it again I understand the strategy of opening up another Terminus in Amun Kelisk in order to delay the devaluing of gold. It's the Glass Scepters vs. Silk Notes that's somewhat confusing me.
 
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Bluntly, the werebear is a far more valuable ally in the Long Night. I want the bear to win, not the wildling.

I respect that and am now imagining a Werebear King Beyond The Wall. I'm not entirely for it, but that's pure speculation at the moment and also pretty metal.

Vote not yet done, but dumping what I got so far so that people can stsrt commenting on it.

Have we abstracted away taxes paid in goods? I figure we have for ease of numbers but wanted to check.

Somewhat unrelatedly, do we have any ships devoted to Fishing or are we leaving that as an untouched by royalty market?
 
The actual printing will be done in a few months when we can convince the new currency council to lower the minimum deposit we need for issuing.
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The actual printing will be done in a few months when we can convince the new currency council to lower the minimum deposit we need for issuing.
What council? I only recall that we agreed to fix the currencies.

Hell, I think we didn't even agree to not issue more than we have, we just had latin american trauma illuminate the bad ideas.
 
--[] Deposit 2 million Imperial Marks in coinage and another 2 million Imperial Marks in book money with the Iron Bank. // This is the seed for them to exchange money and give out loans in Imperial Marks. The seed should stay the same and if they need more coinage or book money, they have to transfer us the appropriate amount of gold in return.
This feels stupid. The IB can't create any new Imperial Marks. They're physically incapable of it. And didn't we have an implicit agreement with the Shaitan and Djinn about how much book money we could create? Our currencies are tied, after all.
I'd feel more comfortable if the IB just had to get a stockpile from us in advance.

. To achieve this, you will re-introduce part of the gold into the Planetosi economy by buying trade goods that the Djinn state or large trading companies are interested in.
  1. Get Imperial Marks as taxes
  2. Get gold with it
  3. Then buy stuff with the gold
  4. Sell stuff bought with the gold, get planar money, use the planar money to issue more IM
  5. This is basically one massive shell game (assuming we don't make huge profits or losses) except that it influences the price of gold
  6. ???
  7. PROFIT indirectly
Link or didn't happen.
Are you seriously asking me to trawl through weeks of political arguments in Worm threads (from an incredibly prolific poster too - Tarrangar is like Duesal, they basically seem to live on SV+SB (and maybe AH too)) just to prove to you that yes, Tarrangar did argue a center-left socioeconomic position once? And I'm not even quite certain what thread this was in too, I've had to skim through far too many stupid political arguments in thread I follow recently.
No way in hell.
You can call me a liar if you like, but you can't diminish my sense of satisfaction!
 
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What council? I only recall that we agreed to fix the currencies.

Hell, I think we didn't even agree to not issue more than we have, we just had latin american trauma illuminate the bad ideas.
We've set up a monitoring body that will oversee the exchange rates so that this whole deal doesn't end in a economic trainwreck. We also assured the Shaitan and Djinn that we will not issue more currency then we can back in their currencies for now, effectively meaning that we operate at a 100% reserve rate. However, the deal also included that we will lower the reserve rate to 50% in the future.

The key do doing this without pissing anyone off is to convince the currency board that doing so will not negatively impact the economies, devalue our currency or do anything else undesirable. If we pull that off, we can start issuing more then our reserves. This is the point where our currency becomes stable.
 
Bluntly, the werebear is a far more valuable ally in the Long Night. I want the bear to win, not the wildling.

Bluntly, that bear is a dickhead with a toxic philosophy that essentially boils down to the sort of bunk ass social Darwinian nonsense people use as a justification to act like murder hobos and an update informing us that he has been murdered would make my day.
#TeamElle
 
This feels stupid. The IB can't create any new Imperial Marks. They're physically incapable of it. And didn't we have an implicit agreement with the Shaitan and Djinn about how much book money we could create? Our currencies are tied, after all.
I'd feel more comfortable if the IB just had to get a stockpile from us in advance.
We are sticking to that agreement with the Shaitan and Djinn, hence why the IB needs a seed deposit to operate. The exchange basically just replenishes the seed as necessary.

So yes, they are getting a stockpile. This is us giving them access to that stockpile.
Get Imperial Marks as taxes
Get gold with it
Then buy stuff with the gold
Sell stuff bought with the gold, get planar money, use the planar money to issue more IM
This is basically one massive shell game (assuming we don't make huge profits or losses) except that it influences the price of gold
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PROFIT indirectly
Profit also directly since the trade is pretty much a regular trade. But yes, it's a shell game. Though the proper financial term for this is "currency swap deal". It's a perfectly normal way to balance fiat currencies and regulate the money supply.
Are you seriously asking me to trawl through weeks of political arguments in Worm threads (from an incredibly prolific poster too - Tarrangar is like Duesal, they basically seem to live on SV+SB (and maybe AH too)) just to prove to you that yes, Tarrangar did argue a center-left socioeconomic position once? And I'm not even quite certain what thread this was in too, I've had to skim through far too many stupid political arguments in thread I follow recently.
No way in hell.
You can call me a liar if you like, but you can't diminish my sense of satisfaction!
Sheesh... calm you croissants... I was merely curious...

But since you asked for it: Liar! :V
 
Bluntly, that bear is a dickhead with a toxic philosophy that essentially boils down to the sort of bunk ass social Darwinian nonsense people use as a justification to act like murder hobos and an update informing us that he has been murdered would make my day.
#TeamElle
And he's still a far stronger tool in the Long Night, so I don't give a damn if he kills Elle so long as we have his strength when Winter comes.
 
And he's still a far stronger tool in the Long Night, so I don't give a damn if he kills Elle so long as we have his strength when Winter comes.
Sure sure, he's useful, just detestable. I will cheer if he gets murdered by Elle, or if he dies in a useful way to the Others, or (in the case he survives Winter and the quest is still going) most loudly when he gets killed by us because he's outlived his usefulness and our ideology is pretty fundamentally incompatible with his.
I'm patient.
 
After giving it quite some thought and running some numbers, I've decided against doing the fancy stuff for now. I will keep those plans in reserve for when we are in dire need of planar currency, but with the selling of our gold reserves, we should be fine for now.

Vote slightly re-arranged, but content staid the same.
 
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