Yeah but he has no legal claim to anything, so not returning is tantamount to taking it yourself as far as the legitimacy of the act goes. There will be no time in between to make those assets not be considered stolen goods.
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Yeah but he has no legal claim to anything, so not returning is tantamount to taking it yourself as far as the legitimacy of the act goes. There will be no time in between to make those assets not be considered stolen goods.
I believe we can take the stuff of some of them, and they'll be too busy fending off the vultures and our local friends to even think of putting up an attack that'll work.
If we don't actually recognize the guy as something other than a criminal, why does his attack let us conquer Lys in the first place?
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We aren't actively targeting any children, they just might die due to circumstances.
This is a vastly preferable outcome to some grumpy magisters poisoning the food supply after we take over.
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You assume our enemies are entirely made up of bickering idiots.
Because they predate the concept of other threadmark categories so it would have been confusing to split them after the fact... at least without going back and changing the designation of every omake which would take quite a while.
I assume this guys are mildly better than the Tyroshi. But unlike with Tyrosh, we have bought a faction in Lys already. Jarlar might be the most competent guy in Lys too, by dint of making it to old age. Between his people and anyone else who decides to side with us out of old fashioned opportunism, we can put a lid on way more trouble than we could have in Tyrosh.
If the Tyroshi can't coordinate when we took some property (slaves) from all of them, the Lysene can't when we take all property from some of them, not with people who'll work with us in their midst.
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I guess the thread try to justified Viserys action to not similar to Robert.
If let the god source them out and some our minion solve problem for us like Tywin.What we should do?
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Except this time we have no convenient Daemon invasion to justify our occupation and we are vastly more at risk of troubles due the host of other stuff going on around us. Like Myr and Pentos.
Also, we got people clamouring to go all over creation and poking random ruins instead of holding down the fort.
We got some Braavosi plotting against us already active in Lys who could easily recruit the magisters.
Your squeamishesness will kill thousands of innocents and destabilise our rule.
Best case.
My "squeamishness" might lead to us adding a few names to Jarlar's political purge list. And if that's not going to piss anyone off, I do not see why what I suggest would.
Thinking about it there is something you could to to save the children, feign divine intervention... you know save the young and innocent from the fires of battle. The Erinyes could play guardian angels fighting their way to safety. Of course that would come with an extra degree of complexity.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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...You know, going all-murderblender here would be nothing but efficient. Killing everyone, and then some, children included.
Let's not start me advocating for that.
We are leading this scheme to it's end, whatever fails along the way, and next time, we'll make sure to take less stupid people for acting steps out.
[X] Azel
Whatever the case, I kinda trust you with your own scheme.
Let's not start me advocating for that.
We are leading this scheme to it's end, whatever fails along the way, and next time, we'll make sure to take less stupid people for acting steps out.
[X] Azel
Whatever the case, I kinda trust you with your own scheme.
Goldfish
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@DragonParadox Would Commune with City, specifically the ability to discover up to three "major news items within the city" per casting be enough to learn of the exits to Magister escape tunnels in Lys?
And if that isn't possible, what about using Commune with Earth after creating our own underground space in Lys from which to cast the spell? It could possibly give us knowledge of all the secret tunnels throughout the city.
And would Lay of the Land be enough to at least tell us where tunnels may exit?
And if that isn't possible, what about using Commune with Earth after creating our own underground space in Lys from which to cast the spell? It could possibly give us knowledge of all the secret tunnels throughout the city.
And would Lay of the Land be enough to at least tell us where tunnels may exit?
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tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I don't really care that much, this is a slaver city on Planetos, they probably murder about as many slave children a month as would die here, and letting them flee might set our conquest back months, which would be months more for them to murder slave children.
I don't want any children to die, but if any has to die, let it be the ones whose parents deserve the grief.
This need to be done, we are saving at least 10 Lyseni slave children for every child that die here, it sucks and we should do our best to limit the child mortality, but not conquering Lys sucks even more, as that mean they can keep their slaving ways.
Wouldn't Glyra's troupe be a better match for this, this seem like the kind of trickery Gremlins excel at.
- The former no since passages exits are not major news items
- The latter would work, within range limitations
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Wat.
Seriously.
Wat.
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@Goldfish, please just nuke it from orbit. I'm tired of this.
[X] Goldfish
I had a nice and simple plan, but people weren't happy with it because it wasn't complicated enough to address every last thing that the fearmongering could come up with.
And now I get complaints about things being too complicated. And have to fight the peanut gallery because a few eggs might get broken.
All of this would have been way easier if we hadn't ignored Lys for months.
Not really. They are more fragile and can't teleport the latter of which you need if to get to the children in the chaos of a sack.
Goldfish
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By the latter, do you mean Commune with Earth or Lay of the Land?
Sorry I was just trying to offer some sort of solution.
I realize how many moving parts and how complex and risky it is.
Commune with earth.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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@LonelyWolf999
Check out my Flashback omake to the Trident for the Knight Denys was sworn to, from House Sunglass.
Also, Thorne has a son, he mentioned it to Aemon I believe?
Check out my Flashback omake to the Trident for the Knight Denys was sworn to, from House Sunglass.
Also, Thorne has a son, he mentioned it to Aemon I believe?
Goldfish
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How many Spicers families are there, @DragonParadox?
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I will support whatever plan you come up with over not doing this, I will still try to see if we can't find a way to save the children, but while children dying in the sack suck, our conquest being delayed, allowing the breeding pens of Lys to continue for more sucks even more.
Goldfish
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Please start formulating the coup plan or coming up with additional questions. I'm working out a method to deal with the Spicers' escape tunnels.Wat.
Seriously.
Wat.
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@Goldfish, please just nuke it from orbit. I'm tired of this.
[X] Goldfish
I had a nice and simple plan, but people weren't happy with it because it wasn't complicated enough to address every last thing that the fearmongering could come up with.
And now I get complaints about things being too complicated. And have to fight the peanut gallery because a few eggs might get broken.
All of this would have been way easier if we hadn't ignored Lys for months.
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@DragonParadox Right now the Spicers, at least the important ones are in known locations, right?
They would only flee if Aedon positions soldiers to storm their locations.
About how many people are we talking about?
They would only flee if Aedon positions soldiers to storm their locations.
About how many people are we talking about?
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What was the original plan again? I'm so lost as to what was supposed to happen