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Pity, that.
Will we ever see an official rumor addressing this?
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Will we ever see an official rumor addressing this?
Certain people of the Reach were loyal. The Tyrells.... can be argued they weren't. The Tyrells basically were making sure they stayed in power by doing nothing really. They went to StormsEnds and feasted really.
All to the NW.
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So I'm thinking of medium (within two years of game time) and long term (within 10 years of game time) goals to have written down somewhere to have available for easy reference and to plot out what we need to do to accomplish them.
Any recommendations to add to the list would be appreciated.
Right now I have the following lined up:
Medium Term:
Anti-Gravity Air Force
Alchemically Enhanced General Imperial Soldiers (A.E.G.I.S.)
Three Daughters Conquest and Stabilization
Westerosi Conquest and Stabilization
Evil Outsider Purges
Shift To Imperial Mark Currency
Assassination of the 15th
Long Term:
Destruction of the Long Night
Full Conquest and Stabilization of the Material Plane
The Santargaryian Clause Troupe
(Start of) Subjugation of Plane of Fire
Idk maybe Quasi-Divinehood
Any recommendations to add to the list would be appreciated.
Right now I have the following lined up:
Medium Term:
Anti-Gravity Air Force
Alchemically Enhanced General Imperial Soldiers (A.E.G.I.S.)
Three Daughters Conquest and Stabilization
Westerosi Conquest and Stabilization
Evil Outsider Purges
Shift To Imperial Mark Currency
Assassination of the 15th
Long Term:
Destruction of the Long Night
Full Conquest and Stabilization of the Material Plane
The Santargaryian Clause Troupe
(Start of) Subjugation of Plane of Fire
Idk maybe Quasi-Divinehood
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You can certainly make that point to lord Redwyne in person.
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This feels like a trap...
Crake
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@DragonParadox Why not start smaller? That there are things immediately threatening the Watch and thus the North, that it was the right thing to do (we already dropped hints that this is IC for us) and that it was an "easy" way to get an in to diplomance Ned, and try to keep the North, if not favorable in view of us, out of any potential war.
That doesn't answer the whole Mace question, but I'm not sure how we want to handle it. We clearly view Mace as disloyal. Mace saved face and never "acted" in a way that speaks of blatant treachery, but he undermined our House in the war, and hasn't made any overtures himself to renewing relations with us, especially now that we're not some political sideshow.
We do not trust the Tyrells, that Paxter can't see the political connotations, not only behind the Fey, but attached to Tyrell's actions in the rebellion, doesn't speak any better.
We can be polite about it, but I think this falls into a "fair enough" range of responses. Granted, Tyrell has no reason to trust us, but well, we have a reputation of being courteous and respecting tradition of parley and guest right, so who the fuck can really say who's in the right?
I don't think we're behaving inconsistently though.
That doesn't answer the whole Mace question, but I'm not sure how we want to handle it. We clearly view Mace as disloyal. Mace saved face and never "acted" in a way that speaks of blatant treachery, but he undermined our House in the war, and hasn't made any overtures himself to renewing relations with us, especially now that we're not some political sideshow.
We do not trust the Tyrells, that Paxter can't see the political connotations, not only behind the Fey, but attached to Tyrell's actions in the rebellion, doesn't speak any better.
We can be polite about it, but I think this falls into a "fair enough" range of responses. Granted, Tyrell has no reason to trust us, but well, we have a reputation of being courteous and respecting tradition of parley and guest right, so who the fuck can really say who's in the right?
I don't think we're behaving inconsistently though.
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You are not in an internal perspective but you need to explain this in part or in whole. That's what the vote is about.
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Hmm so if Ned were to raise his banners in our favour what is the heart condition of Robert looking like?
Crake
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It quite simply wouldn't happen. Stark would need a personal stake to war in the South, and always needed one.
Starks don't do well in the south.
DkArthas
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He would never do that. At best he will stay neutral, even that is unlikely though. But I believe we can remove Robert baratheon from the game before the Northerner host starts gathering. North is BIG.
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Crake
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Ridiculous.
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No mythic takes a lot more than that. Mythic is stories and legend given form and power. If all it took was overthrowing a king then there would be mythic as far as the eye can see.
Crake
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Yes, this is fair and valid, it is easy to get them to believe that there are some pretty powerful monsters Beyond the Wall, it is "Here Be Dragons" territory and both monsters and magic are back in the world.
The Watch was in so bad a state that our lavish gifts actually sort of make sense in context it is given--they would NEED lavish gifts to have a chance against those threats.
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@DragonParadox, how does Viserys think the offer of a quick visit to Sorcerer's Deep and a tour of the Trophy Room would be received?
Sorcerer's Deep quite well, the trophy room might cause a crises of faith or other unpredictable reaction. He does not have that good a grasp of lord Redwyne's character.
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At some point we need to at least make an attempt to get Mace and the Tyrell's on our side. Same with the other Lord Paramounts that are at least vaguely possible to get on our side that we haven't already talked to. If everyone knows about us talking to Ned and we don't even attempt to talk to some of the others it has to feel like an insult.
Also, how precisely do people know about us talking with Ned? Like, we met him at the Wall and spoke to him about the Others. Didn't figure he'd speak so much about it to others, particularly southerners, and everyone else present cannot exactly go south.
Also, how precisely do people know about us talking with Ned? Like, we met him at the Wall and spoke to him about the Others. Didn't figure he'd speak so much about it to others, particularly southerners, and everyone else present cannot exactly go south.
It is posibile someone talked in Winterfell or at the Wall and then the rumor traveled south.
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Hmmm... Could we spend a few hours giving him a tour of our Crown City, and in that time depending on Viserys' judgement, if the man can take it without breaking down we show him the trophy room and explain the various things we've been busy fighting?
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[X] Death in Winter
-[X] "Magic has awakened everywhere, my lord. The Fey, while not harmless by any measure, do not seek the death of all that breathes. There are creatures beyond the wall that do, and even now they prepare for the coming of Winter." Building from the same place that he understands, connecting the Fae to the Others in ideal.
-[X] "I do not speak of tales in this, I speak of the reasons for which the Wall was built and the Night Watch founded. I have fought those creatures in the North, creatures of undeath and corrupted Fae magic. Without my presence, White Harbour might well be a ruin. Back ourselves up, with connection to Whiteharbour so that he can check if wants to.
-[X] "This is not a threat that can be parlayed with, only to be fought by every living being that wishes to survive on this world. If you do not believe me," this is not a judging statement, simply advice, "ask Dusk-Dancer of the Long Night and those who came from the North to bring it down upon the world." More foundational work.
-[X] "So as any who cares for the peoples of Westeros, I have acted to secure them from what I see as the most lethal of all threats rising to strike them down. To do that, I must support the Night's Watch, and there are limits to what I can do in that without at least the acceptance of Lord Stark. But aid was needed, aid that I could not see coming from any other place, and so it was given." Our agreement with Lord Stark allows us to support the Watch, which is part of his domain. Nothing more.
-[X] "I have done as much in the Crownlands and Vale against those truly hellish foes, and in other places too in battle against other foes of mankind. Again, aid was needed, and with none offering it, I could do little less than act. As close as we can get to pointing out that the Crown has done basically nothing to secure Westeros against supernatural threats. Yes, it does matter.
-[X] "The Reach has needed my attention least so far, both because your most local supernatural entities are rarely accommodating of guests seeking to take what they see as theirs. And you have your own heroes too, in the Green Knight and those who protect Oldtown." This is phrased as a compliment, but there's an edge to it. The Fae might have helped keep the Reach safe, but they never give anything freely.
-[X] "I'm not trying to reward people right now. I'm trying to ensure that the Seven Kingdoms can continue to exist."
-[X] "If you wish, my Lord, I could show you proof of this. My realm is but a heartbeat away if you would trust my word to keep to responsibilities of a host as you have done for myself, and there is much there that could prove my words more than any oath might." Get him to come see what we've created and why. If he asks for our word of safe passage, we will give it.
@Artemis1992 I've stolen a bunch from you here, but I feel it needs a personal touch. We're technically dodging the Mace question, but I'd like @Azel to weigh in on that before I commit anything to a vote.
-[X] "Magic has awakened everywhere, my lord. The Fey, while not harmless by any measure, do not seek the death of all that breathes. There are creatures beyond the wall that do, and even now they prepare for the coming of Winter." Building from the same place that he understands, connecting the Fae to the Others in ideal.
-[X] "I do not speak of tales in this, I speak of the reasons for which the Wall was built and the Night Watch founded. I have fought those creatures in the North, creatures of undeath and corrupted Fae magic. Without my presence, White Harbour might well be a ruin. Back ourselves up, with connection to Whiteharbour so that he can check if wants to.
-[X] "This is not a threat that can be parlayed with, only to be fought by every living being that wishes to survive on this world. If you do not believe me," this is not a judging statement, simply advice, "ask Dusk-Dancer of the Long Night and those who came from the North to bring it down upon the world." More foundational work.
-[X] "So as any who cares for the peoples of Westeros, I have acted to secure them from what I see as the most lethal of all threats rising to strike them down. To do that, I must support the Night's Watch, and there are limits to what I can do in that without at least the acceptance of Lord Stark. But aid was needed, aid that I could not see coming from any other place, and so it was given." Our agreement with Lord Stark allows us to support the Watch, which is part of his domain. Nothing more.
-[X] "I have done as much in the Crownlands and Vale against those truly hellish foes, and in other places too in battle against other foes of mankind. Again, aid was needed, and with none offering it, I could do little less than act. As close as we can get to pointing out that the Crown has done basically nothing to secure Westeros against supernatural threats. Yes, it does matter.
-[X] "The Reach has needed my attention least so far, both because your most local supernatural entities are rarely accommodating of guests seeking to take what they see as theirs. And you have your own heroes too, in the Green Knight and those who protect Oldtown." This is phrased as a compliment, but there's an edge to it. The Fae might have helped keep the Reach safe, but they never give anything freely.
-[X] "I'm not trying to reward people right now. I'm trying to ensure that the Seven Kingdoms can continue to exist."
-[X] "If you wish, my Lord, I could show you proof of this. My realm is but a heartbeat away if you would trust my word to keep to responsibilities of a host as you have done for myself, and there is much there that could prove my words more than any oath might." Get him to come see what we've created and why. If he asks for our word of safe passage, we will give it.
@Artemis1992 I've stolen a bunch from you here, but I feel it needs a personal touch. We're technically dodging the Mace question, but I'd like @Azel to weigh in on that before I commit anything to a vote.
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