Revealing that the cut throat mob boss is a prince sounds like a good way to kill Viserys rep in Westeros. We should set up multiple identities. Use the crime to get seed money then make a merchant prince persona to take over as and reveal that one as Viserys.
Yes gain a good name ruling over a bunch of backstabbing blackmailing cunts who we helped place in power while the people pay protection money to everyone....

You two have clearly never done a good 'King of Thieves with good PR' run.

You don't need to openly be the leader of the Thieves Guild, merely suspected to be close or their bankroller making use of them.

Besides, there's a saying that goes "The first king was a lucky Pirate'.

So long as Viserys can create a good rep for caring for the common folk and noble acts he'll be fine.
Westeros has had good experiences with Targaryen kings growing up in low places.
 
So what's the longterm plan here? How does being leader of a thieves guild help?
I thought people wanted to either take over a city in Essos or retake the throne in Westeros how does being guidleader help that rather than just being on good terms with them and sometimes hiring their services?
I thought it would be something like build capital/influence -> build up army/gather allies -> take over.
Having direct control of a thieves guild can definitely be useful if your trying to take over the city. It's not like you have to directly administer it. You can always have a trusted, competent ally run day to day operations.
 
Yes gain a good name ruling over a bunch of backstabbing blackmailing cunts who we helped place in power while the people pay protection money to everyone....
Sounds just like the Westeros Nobility.

I think one of the benefits of controlling a shadowy organization is that if your competent nobody needs to have definitive proof that you're in charge.
 
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Interlude VI: Trickster
Trickster

Viper's Get Part I Next>

Second Day of the Twelfth Month 289 AC

Tyrene Sand had learned early and learned well the value of treachery and of secrets. She had come into the world with a most innocent mien, golden haired and blue-eyed and cultivated it as one might a rose.... or nightshade. However until a few days ago she did not have secrets from her father, well not important ones. Not so now.

The girl gently touched the climbing vine before her pushing just a bit of the whispering dark power into it. Vivid green leaves turned not brown as they might in the heat of the Dornish sun but black and frail like parchment. But this time the plant did not die all the way, the stem did not crumble and and break. Good, Tyrene thought now the other. She touched the plant again and life returned to it as the bright power suffused it. More verdant it looked than it had been when she had come upon it. The girl laughed then, not the soft girlish giggle she had perfected over the years but a full joyous sound that brought to mind her father Oberyn.

Tyrene was almost heady with successes, she was after all a most precocious child who had begun to learn of the brews and concoctions could heal or harm but this.. this magic was more potent than any cure or poison ever made. With it she could hold a man's life in her bare hand. Her musings were interrupted by the sound of heavy guard boots at the entrance to the little courtyard. She did not really need to flee her presence while unusual was by no means forbidden but nonetheless she called the shadows to her and made of them a false form and face. This was the power she had first discovered and it was addictive. No longer was she bound to one mask, she could ware a thousand like the faceless of rumor and tale.

Did their Many-Faced-God bless me for some unknowable reason or is the power just me, a legacy of Ny Sar of the Thousand Fountains? The girl wondered even as she played the part of the the stableboy caught shrinking his duties. Getting sympathy was harder as a boy, it required a finer touch, but it was by no means impossible.

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Her final experiment a success Tyrene Sand decided that she had had enough fun keeping this great secret, for all her duplicitous nature she loved her kin dearly and was loyal to them. Now the question was: How was she to get to the Stepstones to give her father the greatest surprise of his life? Alright so maybe the fun is not over yet, she thought savoring her newfound power.

OOC: When considering potential mages I've noticed that I have a tendency to use girls more then boys. After some thought I realized it is because boys at the age I prefer most of the awakened are more likely busy and already on the traditional path to power. Anyway Tyrene was just too good to pass up, a poisoner with the face of an angel. She is a mystic with the Trickery Domain if anyone is wondering.
 
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Anyway Tyrene was just too good to pass up, a poisoner with the face of an angel. She is a mystic with the Trickery Domain if anyone is wondering.
Great job escalating the future waifu war. >_>

^this
Beside I am not particulary interested in bhecoming the king of westeros. The chief of a mage guild has always more power than the king.
True, nigh godhood does trump king. More freedom too. All hail Queen Danys perhaps, if she wants the crown and throne.
 
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How about if they all make trouble at the same time? Women are not a collectable item.

I find the whole harem thing both sexist and more than a bit ridiculous.
You see that was what is know as a joke and quite frankly nobody claimed that women are Items.

Honestly if we played as a female character and decided to have a male harem would that be sexist? I can't see anything INHERENTLY sexist about it. yes there could be problems.

Hell I don't even want one.

It could be sexist, but as long as everybody involved was willing I can't see how it is.
 
You see that was what is know as a joke and quite frankly nobody claimed that women are Items.

Honestly if we played as a female character and decided to have a male harem would that be sexist? I can't see anything INHERENTLY sexist about it. yes there could be problems.

Hell I don't even want one.

It could be sexist, but as long as everybody involved was willing I can't see how it is.
I think he is refering to how readers/CYOA voters treat the girls involved not how they are treated in character.
 
You see that was what is know as a joke and quite frankly nobody claimed that women are Items.

Honestly if we played as a female character and decided to have a male harem would that be sexist? I can't see anything INHERENTLY sexist about it. yes there could be problems.

Hell I don't even want one.

It could be sexist, but as long as everybody involved was willing I can't see how it is.

I have never encountered the idea played straight being anything other than sexist and yes a male harem would most likely also be sexist in the other direction.

Functional and content polyamorous relationships are hard to write properly (I sure as hell can't do it) and very easy to write in such a manner that is demeaning to most of the participants.
 
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I have never encountered the idea played straight being anything other than sexist and yes a male harem would most likely also be sexist in the other direction.

Functional and content polyamorous relationships are hard to write properly (I sure as hell can't do it) and very easy to write in such a manner that is demeaning to most of the participants.
Honestly I'm not sure it would be sexist in this case, we aren't better because we're male we're better because we're a dragon.
If anything it's racism, entirely justifiable racism because we're a dragon.
 
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