Duke William of
I really need to finish my quests. :V
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Well, that seems like a great project to get to work on later on.
A Reforged World (NO SV, You are King of Italy, in a Greatly Changed World)
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Mercs, much cheaper, but yeah. Fundamentally reliability depends on the merc leaders and, most importantly, their livelihood relies on war, as with no war there is no business. Which can clash motivation wise with a nation.
But on the other hand, a professionals army isn't inherently insulated from potential problems. Such s the infamous praetorian guard that got into a habit of offing leaders for their own benefit. 😅 One of many factors in the 3rd century crisis.
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Or the japanees clash between army and navy, or the many Roman generals who wished to be emperer, maybe Machiavelli can include a chapter about limiting politics into armies.
Orion Ultor
Everything’s Got A Price.
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Too many to count (mostly on account of me needing to catch up), but I'll ask the most important of them right now...
Is pizza still guaranteed to exist? If it will exist, please tell me that toppings like pineapple, kiwi and oreos will be banned from being toppings?
And will tacos even become a thing, if the Ottoman traders are barred from bringing donar kebabs to the New World, where they'll be reborn [as tacos]? Will it be the Greeks instead with their gyros?
Magoose
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Does Italy have a flag? Because I doubt we're getting the tri-colour. Also what is Luciano's coat of arms?
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I'm working on it, and Luciano's coat of Arms is to be revealed.
@Magoose Can the []Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail) Decision be chosen more than once?
If it can, I'd suggest for future plans to begin an effort towards choosing:
[]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
-[] The Italian Agriculture Land and Farmer's Reform Phase One: Senator Octavian proposes a beginning to a set of phases that would amount towards a solution to the "Serfdom Question". Phase One focuses towards surveying the lands across Italy, preferably in the lands that would be open to Senator Octavian's Project, and begin the creations of Serf-Towns and Farms, along with the creation of the Serf-Town's Budget.
If you are to choose towards reducing Serfdom. (Other Phases comes later)
However, I'd also suggest future plans to have an effort towards the following:
[]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
-[] The Italian Army Revitalisation Act: Noting that the Army is currently in dire straits, Senator Octavian proposes the creation of a staff of Army Officials to coordinate in a cooperative effort towards the Reformation of the Army from every operation possible (Training, Logistic Supply, Strategic Decisions, Doctrines, Finances, Information, Battle-Readiness, etc.), an enlarged Budget is established to the Army to see the reforms done, and to employ and actively encourage new officers to have a voice in the Italian Army Reform Staff.
[]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
-[] The Italian Northern Defenses Act: Fortifications in the North are seen to be outdated against the now Modern type of Siege warfare through cannons. The Prime Minister, Randio Travioli, recommends the official positioning of Border Security through revitalisation of the Fortifications in addition to new Forts developed at Strategic positioning with upgrades (such as the addition of Cannons to the forts) and changes to previous designs to make the Fortress less likely to break down against Cannon fire.
If there are to be any focuses towards Military Reform/Budgeting, and protecting the Northern Italian regions from potential invaders and on-going raiding issues.
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If it can, I'd suggest for future plans to begin an effort towards choosing:
[]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
-[] The Italian Agriculture Land and Farmer's Reform Phase One: Senator Octavian proposes a beginning to a set of phases that would amount towards a solution to the "Serfdom Question". Phase One focuses towards surveying the lands across Italy, preferably in the lands that would be open to Senator Octavian's Project, and begin the creations of Serf-Towns and Farms, along with the creation of the Serf-Town's Budget.
If you are to choose towards reducing Serfdom. (Other Phases comes later)
However, I'd also suggest future plans to have an effort towards the following:
[]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
-[] The Italian Army Revitalisation Act: Noting that the Army is currently in dire straits, Senator Octavian proposes the creation of a staff of Army Officials to coordinate in a cooperative effort towards the Reformation of the Army from every operation possible (Training, Logistic Supply, Strategic Decisions, Doctrines, Finances, Information, Battle-Readiness, etc.), an enlarged Budget is established to the Army to see the reforms done, and to employ and actively encourage new officers to have a voice in the Italian Army Reform Staff.
[]Invest in the Future: You want to invest in your country, and there are a few ways you can do that (Write in what you want to invest in) DC: ??? Reward: You invest in the nation (Linetail what you want to invest in below this action as a line tail)
-[] The Italian Northern Defenses Act: Fortifications in the North are seen to be outdated against the now Modern type of Siege warfare through cannons. The Prime Minister, Randio Travioli, recommends the official positioning of Border Security through revitalisation of the Fortifications in addition to new Forts developed at Strategic positioning with upgrades (such as the addition of Cannons to the forts) and changes to previous designs to make the Fortress less likely to break down against Cannon fire.
If there are to be any focuses towards Military Reform/Budgeting, and protecting the Northern Italian regions from potential invaders and on-going raiding issues.
Un-Related Not: If your User is "Can"..it was an accident!
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Hows the policing situation (well guarding situation since thier is only guards and not police yet but nevermind that ) in Italy out of curiosity.
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only town constables and guards.
...well thank goodness the mob isn't going to be formed for a few 100s years.
The Diplomacy of Europe
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The Diplomacy of Europe:
When you looked at the First Minister, you knew he was shocked and surprised. "You are giving these designs away?"
"Not the finalized design, but it is the one that I feel comfortable giving." You replied. "And my reasoning is quite simple. There is little to no way that I feel that we would gain with this technology altogether if it were only our hands that wielded it."
"Quite, yet I still ask why?" He asked.
"Simple. I don't want to start a war because of Leonardo's invention. It wouldn't be what he wanted."
"And what do you want to prove?" He asked.
"That I can do better." You stated. "Perhaps that will make them understand what is going on? That the world is changing and that they can either adapt to it, or they will find themselves in a situation that will…. See change."
Reward: You give an upgrade to the simple design that Leonardo made for the world… but keep your own completed design.
It has changed things.
You can now invent Steamships.
You can now begin the mass production of fire arms, and ammunition.
You can now invent trains, and build railroads.
Wealth of Italy from Steel Exports is now set to 10 and will remain that way for 10 turns. Meaning that any project that Italy attempts will not dent the budget.
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How the World Sees Italy and Luciano:
Spain (+3)
King Charles has told the court to accept the King's gift. And that there will be continued to diplomacy.
In Spain itself, the gift of the potential ability to heat entire cities is considered the greatest gift that they could have. Winters are no longer cold… or have the hope to no longer be cold.
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France (-2)
To say that France was surprised about everything and the gift was something that angered them. Humiliation from the loss of prestige of losing in Italy…
The King grits his teeth and accepts, despite the many loud clamors of his ministers all but demanding to declare war for the honor of France and all the tresure that was lost.
Yet instead, the King just said thank you and left. It was a novelty… nothing more.
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England (+7)
The King has only replied with one thing. "You have granted a gift that is not only a curiosity… but of one that will bring man together."
He also wrote… "Anything that your government wishes for, My Government may see to it, within reason."
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The HRE (+3)
The Emperor is… confused.
He accepts with courtesy. Yet…
His princes are quite different. Many see only the benefit of closer relations with the Italian Kingdom, while others… only see death.
And wish to invade.
But they are a minority. But now, they see that they cannot ignore you now. Or ever…
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Hungry: (-5)
The King is dead, and his successor blames you for not joining his war… but he holds no more hatred than that of his…
Other fellow knights. He is too busy trying to keep his throne.
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Austria: (+1)
In Vienna, the gift is met in a lukewarm fashion, and then promptly ignored.
They have no time for the trinkets of an inventor who just happens to sit on the throne.
They want something more.
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The Ottomans: (0)
Suliman sees nothing. He only smiles. He is soon to be at peace, and than, he will decide what his next move forward is.
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The Ming: (-5)
Meanwhile, in China, a steam engine reaches it, from a merchant from the Turkish Sultan.
And the Dragon Stirs for the first time in centuries. Because they realized…
They are doomed.
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Italy Stat updated.
Italy: Status: Unified Kingdom/Regional Power
Leader: Luciano Graziani, King Luca the First (King)/ Unknown, It's first true elections will be held soon. (First Minister of the State, Regent, Head of the Italian Senate)
Heir Apparent: None. (No Child has been born of your body.)
Government: Parliamentary Constitutional Kingdom
State Religion: Roman Catholicism
Capital City: Rome
Relation with You (Luciano Graziani):Note: You are its King, Its Lord and Master.
Relationship with The Senate: 10: The Senate, despite many of its misgivings, has accepted you as their master.
Army: 4/10: The Kingdom is not known for its military prowess or its frontiers. It will take generations to become the envy of Europe.
Navy: 10/10: Wherever there is a body of Water, Italian Ships will sail it, in way that no one can. When its sight is seen, all ships flee.
Manpower: 6/10 They say the men seek peace but will break the world. They then will go home.
Sailors: 10/10 Italian Sailors are the greatest in the world.
Wealth: 10/10 Italy is the center of the World again, this time... economically.
National Spirits:
Heart of Industry: Your Nation is known for the finished goods, and all it does... is make money for all in it.
The Florin: The Coin of the World, is the monetary coin recognized all over Europe, and, thanks to its never-changing design, perfect amount of weight, and trust from the other powers, it is considered the Standard in European Commerce. For now. (The Florin is the basis for much of international trade at the moment, and it brings great prestige to the city itself)
The Birthplace of the Renaissance: This is the city where an Era was born, Where Europe, at least for a moment, remembered her glorious past. And Her beautiful future awaited them if they could just seize it. (??? The Light of Europe has been lit again. May it never go out)
Bane of Pirates: Your Proclamations against the pirates of the world have made you enemies of the world. And those that see you as a threat are without question, some of the most skilled sailors in the world. (The Sailors of the World fear Italian might and wood.)
Constitutional: Your monarchy is bound by a constitution, that regulates and prevents you from holding too much power. This is a blessing, and a curse, depending on who is asking. (Your actions are limited due to your lack of power.)
When you looked at the First Minister, you knew he was shocked and surprised. "You are giving these designs away?"
"Not the finalized design, but it is the one that I feel comfortable giving." You replied. "And my reasoning is quite simple. There is little to no way that I feel that we would gain with this technology altogether if it were only our hands that wielded it."
"Quite, yet I still ask why?" He asked.
"Simple. I don't want to start a war because of Leonardo's invention. It wouldn't be what he wanted."
"And what do you want to prove?" He asked.
"That I can do better." You stated. "Perhaps that will make them understand what is going on? That the world is changing and that they can either adapt to it, or they will find themselves in a situation that will…. See change."
Reward: You give an upgrade to the simple design that Leonardo made for the world… but keep your own completed design.
It has changed things.
You can now invent Steamships.
You can now begin the mass production of fire arms, and ammunition.
You can now invent trains, and build railroads.
Wealth of Italy from Steel Exports is now set to 10 and will remain that way for 10 turns. Meaning that any project that Italy attempts will not dent the budget.
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How the World Sees Italy and Luciano:
Spain (+3)
King Charles has told the court to accept the King's gift. And that there will be continued to diplomacy.
In Spain itself, the gift of the potential ability to heat entire cities is considered the greatest gift that they could have. Winters are no longer cold… or have the hope to no longer be cold.
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France (-2)
To say that France was surprised about everything and the gift was something that angered them. Humiliation from the loss of prestige of losing in Italy…
The King grits his teeth and accepts, despite the many loud clamors of his ministers all but demanding to declare war for the honor of France and all the tresure that was lost.
Yet instead, the King just said thank you and left. It was a novelty… nothing more.
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England (+7)
The King has only replied with one thing. "You have granted a gift that is not only a curiosity… but of one that will bring man together."
He also wrote… "Anything that your government wishes for, My Government may see to it, within reason."
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The HRE (+3)
The Emperor is… confused.
He accepts with courtesy. Yet…
His princes are quite different. Many see only the benefit of closer relations with the Italian Kingdom, while others… only see death.
And wish to invade.
But they are a minority. But now, they see that they cannot ignore you now. Or ever…
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Hungry: (-5)
The King is dead, and his successor blames you for not joining his war… but he holds no more hatred than that of his…
Other fellow knights. He is too busy trying to keep his throne.
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Austria: (+1)
In Vienna, the gift is met in a lukewarm fashion, and then promptly ignored.
They have no time for the trinkets of an inventor who just happens to sit on the throne.
They want something more.
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The Ottomans: (0)
Suliman sees nothing. He only smiles. He is soon to be at peace, and than, he will decide what his next move forward is.
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The Ming: (-5)
Meanwhile, in China, a steam engine reaches it, from a merchant from the Turkish Sultan.
And the Dragon Stirs for the first time in centuries. Because they realized…
They are doomed.
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Italy Stat updated.
Italy: Status: Unified Kingdom/Regional Power
Leader: Luciano Graziani, King Luca the First (King)/ Unknown, It's first true elections will be held soon. (First Minister of the State, Regent, Head of the Italian Senate)
Heir Apparent: None. (No Child has been born of your body.)
Government: Parliamentary Constitutional Kingdom
State Religion: Roman Catholicism
Capital City: Rome
Relation with You (Luciano Graziani):Note: You are its King, Its Lord and Master.
Relationship with The Senate: 10: The Senate, despite many of its misgivings, has accepted you as their master.
Army: 4/10: The Kingdom is not known for its military prowess or its frontiers. It will take generations to become the envy of Europe.
Navy: 10/10: Wherever there is a body of Water, Italian Ships will sail it, in way that no one can. When its sight is seen, all ships flee.
Manpower: 6/10 They say the men seek peace but will break the world. They then will go home.
Sailors: 10/10 Italian Sailors are the greatest in the world.
Wealth: 10/10 Italy is the center of the World again, this time... economically.
National Spirits:
Heart of Industry: Your Nation is known for the finished goods, and all it does... is make money for all in it.
The Florin: The Coin of the World, is the monetary coin recognized all over Europe, and, thanks to its never-changing design, perfect amount of weight, and trust from the other powers, it is considered the Standard in European Commerce. For now. (The Florin is the basis for much of international trade at the moment, and it brings great prestige to the city itself)
The Birthplace of the Renaissance: This is the city where an Era was born, Where Europe, at least for a moment, remembered her glorious past. And Her beautiful future awaited them if they could just seize it. (??? The Light of Europe has been lit again. May it never go out)
Bane of Pirates: Your Proclamations against the pirates of the world have made you enemies of the world. And those that see you as a threat are without question, some of the most skilled sailors in the world. (The Sailors of the World fear Italian might and wood.)
Constitutional: Your monarchy is bound by a constitution, that regulates and prevents you from holding too much power. This is a blessing, and a curse, depending on who is asking. (Your actions are limited due to your lack of power.)
Wow. We got China's head out of its ass.
That's an accomplishment if nothing else.
Magoose
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Too bad nothing will change because the Qing are about to come in and stomp.
Duke William of
I really need to finish my quests. :V
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Hi, Hungry, I'm William.
Given this, and the distinct possibility of war in the near future, I really want to make an OC Condottieri Leader who, after the Unification of Italy, will get involved in politics with the goal of improving Italy's army and building a line of fortifications the equal of the Maginot Line(but better).
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The Ming wouldn't give a shit what some merchant gave them. Ming is one of the most conservative dynisties and would simply ignore it.
Magoose
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Yeah... Well...
They still saw it, and some of them realized that they are fucked.
Doesn't mean they will do anything about it. Just that it did happen, and they know they are doomed.
Just not from Europe.
England in 1 Turn: HAVE AT THEE, SCOTS! (Fires Henry-Martini that somehow arrives in their court)
And thus, the British Empire has arrived.
Don't blame us if the Electorate of Brandenburg gets together with the Prussian Commonwealth (Anti-Tueton Rebels) to invade Silesia while kicking the Austrians around the place with their Discipline.
Hmm..I wonder if we should get the Hohenzollerns into play.
Holy shit we're now the worlds bank
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Only if they and the Italian empire can share the spoils.
We only need a central bank to cement it.
We were already the world's bank. Before banks even existed people borrowed money from banking families, most of whom where in the Italian penninsula.
IDK why but this is unintentionally hilarious
So does this mean that the Ming dynasty will try to survive the Europeans powers by centralizing
Magoose
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China is self aware that they are fucked, and can't do anything about it.
The Century of humiliation is coming... just not in the time frame of this quest.
they got the Qing to worry about.
Fixed.
I think the Habsburgs needs a rival with no focus on Luciano and Isabella..the Hohenzollerns seems quite the rivals I'm sure.