Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition

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[X]Advocate for Biding Time
Oh look they attacked us and found the fuck out. Fuck them we will pay for the sailors too dumb to live. let Humphrey stew a bit and realize how little he wants to die for France wanting to kill brown people because they failed completely against Germany.
 
I wonder if this would fuck over the French? You know their hawks are screaming to launch now before we can preempt them. Dropping the whole thing for a token and then losing American nukes on top of it...

I mean this would utterly humiliate their martial reputation if nothing else. Having a squadron of their navy be beaten by a force whose military history is "Acting as a floating battery" and "Getting humiliated by the Japanese".
 
[X] Advocate for Accepting the Terms

This is a great deal, and if France decides to go rogue as they usually do when it comes to NATO, they'll come off as the agresssors, and we can shove them into a corner and bleed em. It basically means that the US will limit their intervention should the worst happen.
 
[JK] Immediate Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike on not just France, but all British, American, and Low Countries targets. Glory to the Revolution.

Alright, that aside, an informal commitment to not ship arms to Algeria is great because we can ditch it the instant Humphrey's out of power (and doubly so if Ashcroft goes back on it provisions like the tactical nukes, which he probably will). Can't stop the French from committing genocide once the US gives them the okay, but we can make it as painful as possible for them.

[X]Advocate for Accepting the Terms
 
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like it is literally just because of random chance and numbers
even the qm is also surprised because it takes some extremely unlucky rolls to fuck up a very simple task
we literally do not vote on the dice numbers
should we switch to 2 die 50 instead of 1 dice 100 to make rolls smoother and not likely to get such extremes?
No, because there is no reason to. Swingy d100 outcomes are normal and part of the process of not being able to predict what will happen. If we make risky choices, some percent of them will end badly. That's expected. If you don't like it, don't support risky choices.

people have openly stated Algeria and Algerian lives do not matter in this vote so obviously some people are going to vehemently disagree and vote in defense of the Algerians and this simply is not a bad thing
Do Soviet lives matter? Does risking everything in a possible nuclear war against people who quite sincerely believe they are justified in launching a nuclear attack against you matter?

The lesson of the Cold War is plain. In a world where both sides have H-bombs and sincerely believe that total annihilation would be preferable to total surrender, "Never Back Down" gets you and everyone you love killed.

Not a tankie! Don't like Stalin or the historical Soviets very much. Just committed to a hawkish foreign policy based on both ideology and practicality
It ain't practicality if it gets you and everyone you love killed.

That's got to be good, I don't recall him being a major hawk
Yes, but conversely, if Hubert Humphrey is the one screaming at us and demanding that we pay reparations and make concessions, it means we done fucked up.

We rolled the French and showed our anti-imperialist creds. I got what I wanted, and if the French genocide the Algerians to the last child over this, that's on them. The Soviets can say they tried their best and it wasn't enough and the French are responsible for their own atrocities.
During World War Two there was a wisecrack, inspired by how the Soviets were engaged in brutal, horrific fighting on the Eastern Front at a time when the Western Allies had largely not come to grips with their Germany.

"Churchill and Roosevelt are adamantly determined to fight Hitler to the last Russian man."

Would-be colonial independence movements are going to be looking at us and thinking "gee, I wonder if the Russians are planning to fight France/Britain/America/Whoever to the last of our people?"

An ally who backs you into a corner where you will be exterminated is not necessarily a good friend.

And then he gets blamed, not us! I assure you we had no idea how he got those, cant believe he had a secret nuclear program
...Are you being sarcastic, or joking somehow? I really do have to ask.

IMO adopting pure IRST here is a mistake, it means that this aircraft is strictly chained to a controlled interception environment with minimal independent search capability. The S in IRST is pretty notional at this point given the narrow look angle and search rates they had. Outside that it's probably a perfectly competent interceptor and dogfighter, but any nation that can would be a lot better served buying MiG-23/25. So mostly CMEA members, doubt we sell those to just anyone.
My honest impression is that the MiG-21 was always best suited for controlled interception. It's a short ranged interceptor, after all, not a general purpose air superiority fighter.
 
Well, the Discord's been reading the tea leaves and they all seem to point towards trying to get off the train here, so who am I to argue with that?

[X] Advocate for Accepting the Terms
 
Giving Gaddafi nukes is mostly a bit yeah, those I can't deny it does appeal somewhat, almost certainly a bad idea though

China should def get some though
 
So many defeatists in the thread, the Soviet Union is the premier Superpower and we should not concede to the Imperialists and Capitalists, we can and should march onto Paris like we did onto Berlin. May as well pay Italy and Spain a visit while we are at it.
From the Taiga to the British Seas, the Red army is the strongest!
 
[]Advocate for Accepting the Terms: The current conflict is a clear loss for Soviet prestige in that escalation has been pushed too far for the assets and military capacity available. Accepting the American concession will mean an inherent reformatting of aid to Algeria along with the intensification of intelligence activities for working around the restrictions. This can still be done without too many compromises and the reduction of tensions can reduce the damage to the economy done by mobilization orders. Further, Seymonov is unlikely to react over-zealous and will likely take the concession in mind in the sure-to-come political infighting.
As much as I would like to accept this, I simply do not believe that the Americans will ever remove the nuclear weapons they have stationed in Europe. As such, my vote is for,

[X]Advocate for Biding Time
 
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