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[X] Speak with Hasvir Hadingshero
We came here to do this. What's even the point of not doing this?
I mean, an actual deific being said "I can't recommend going out while you wait"...that's not a warning that should just be casually dismissed with 'nothing bad will happen'. You generally seem to assume that no matter what we do things will turn out fine and minimize risks and that's...really not true historically. We've been warned about getting overconfident quite a lot.
IF has also actually brought up the 'einherjar will just kill you, forgetting you can't come back' thing several times when talking about them. And we got this specific warning despite being people capable of coming to Folkvangr and showing the spotlight effect of Odr cultivators...the combination makes it seem real likely that something more than just getting to watch is likely to happen. Us getting blindsided by some sort of fairly extreme attack is very well foreshadowed.
And the real worry (and what got my vote away from going out) was, in fact, Shard bringing up Finales. A lot of those are AoE or otherwise might hit even bystanders, and the only defense we have against them is other Finales, which might not be sufficient if the Finale we're avoiding is Perfected since ours are only Mastered. Is that a sure 'we're gonna die'? No of course not, but it is a risk. And it's also one for our comrades...Stigmar and Abjorn are not gonna let Halla go out alone...could we save them with TSS? Maybe, but it's probably even more of a maybe.
Should we have gone out anyway? Also maybe. I was fairly torn to be honest, and presented the option partially simply because it seemed like there should be such an option, rather than the only voting option for the full three things taking the risk, but it was certainly not a risk free option to go outside.
We came here to do this. What's even the point of not doing this?
We had the option to go and steal the Brazen Bronzeleaf from the Buri family. We had the option to go fight LarsDo you think that Fister, based on the quest as it has been for the last 1827 pages, tends to write in hidden traps for us to kill ourselves as "schmuck bait"?
Like, that's not me trying to make a pithy sarcastic point or anything, it's a genuine question. I think this kind of goes to the heart of the disconnect here because I think it's like... there can be quite a lot of focus sometimes on the idea of landmines that can instakill us through a second's inattention, whereas I think normally if we're in a life-or-death situation, it tends to be telegraphed.
My point isn't that risk does not exist, or that there aren't meaningful conversations to be had about it balancing risk versus reward. Rather, what I've been saying is, that when some kinds of risks come into the equation, we can sometimes throw the baby away with the bath water to the extent that (A) we can systematically overrate risks of very extreme "disaster scenarios", sort of like worrying about shark attacks more than car crashes and (B) this sometimes blinds us to the considerable rewards of taking slightly more risks. In aggregate, I've worried in the past that at the margin this may actually be more risky in the long run, because of how it impacts Halla's growth. However, I am less worried about than I was, as we have definitely become notably more proactive in the last few years.
Not attempting to lecture or anything, and I am sorry if my previous posts had a slightly hector-y tone, that's never a great thing to have to respond to. Just wanted to lay out my thinking here, since you gave a substantive reply.
It's kind of hard to argue that special heritages don't matter when you're the beneficiary of several of them (Volsung [Divine Blood], Sigurdr [Born in Fire/Stoker State] , Bram [Blaze of Glory], Steinarr [Father's Cindersoot Owl], Blackhand [Charred Soul], Whatever we got from Asveig).
Of course Hasvir doesn't want ancestry to define people.
His father was an insane paranoid monster who murdered people and turned them into insanely powerful super draugr. And put bombs in his kids heads. And was generally just not a good dude.
Well that's really just one of the natures of Orthstirr, isn't it? And, Xianxia in general. When the exceptional are adored, what happens when you're *not* exceptional?Honestly I really enjoy the last update, I thought Stigmar's speech - and the dilemma he talks about - was really well done. I can see where he's coming from, it must be hard to live in this kind of competitive warrior culture, and feel like you're the Krillin of your group. Personally I think it's his loyalty to the ones he cares about is the trait that makes him truly special.