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Someone in discord mentioned making any physical aspects of his seal out of Steel. So it cannot be changed or broken without the secret of unmaking steel.
Seems badass.
Seems badass.
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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- norse mythology (mythology) original xianxia cultivation western cultivation ask sirihand did your mother tell you anything? discussion pleases yggdrasil farming gloating gets people killed granary management hubris is a coward's word you will die norsemen do not die when they are killed the qm has a bad memory the qm is bad at math viking courtroom drama (legal drama) vikings
[X] Investigate the Great Ash
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I did not like positing that idea but I felt it had to be posited.
Would strongly prefer 'just kill him', which seems implied to be possible. Maybe Drysalt has a Baldr situation where he has a One True Weakness that can be used to kill him. We do have Sundersight.
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You can do so by highlighting the text and then hitting 'quote' when it pops upEditI don't know how to quote)
For the record, I said that it was possible Halla did it simply to cover my bases in case you figured out something I didn't think about, which is quite likely
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Clearly we just need to develop Sunfire into an even more powerful hugareida that can directly tamper with the Little Flame inside of Drysalt's atoms, and then work with Gabriel while he prays to God to smite this monster, so that we can use a combination of Zeal and Odr to transmute Drysalt into a pillar of salt, Sodom & Gomorrah-style.
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Depends on the wager. IF has mentioned previously that you can challenge people for all their property. So if Abjorn's half brother challenges only for the inheritance, then the winner would get only that, but he could also challenge for everything (betting everything of his own). If he doesn't have a lot of property beyond the inheritance there's very little reason for him to do the former rather than the latter.
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Wagers of combat are to the death, where winner takes all. If the challenger wins, they get all the land and chattel that the person they challenged owned. If the challangee wins, they get all the lands and chattel that the challenger owned. This was a way more common form of 'raiding' than the typical thing you envision when vikings go to raid. It's essentially 'high stakes speed poker raiding'.
Wagers of combat are also enforced by the Gods. If you lose, one of them takes your soul to their hall.
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I want to learn more about this Greek cultivation, so I hope Vidar's half-son is reasonable and doesn't go for a wager of combat. As that will shut off all nonviolent interaction and will end with blood pretty fast one way or another.
... Does Vidar even have a notable inheritance
... Does Vidar even have a notable inheritance
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If he goes for a wager of combat we just slit his throat and eat the Nid hit, imo.
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Yeah, we're gonna need to be at our friendliest when we meet him. Without flirting, and possibly surrounded by scary people. We might, at some point, also casually mention some of the scarier people we can call on (Halfdan and Farbjorn are the two who leap to mind), if we can work it in naturally.
He has a farm. So kinda? There's also our farm, which is likewise relevant since Abjorn's ownership of at least half of it is fairly hard to dispute.
In terms of pure cost/benefit we'd probably be better off just letting him take Vidar's whole farm than push a confrontation, but that'd be a problem in other ways due to lack of fairness.
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Yes, but it's not a blood connection. We can kill him if we really need to, certainly if he's trying to kill our husband. Of course, we'd rather not, but we can.
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Some funny factoids from NQ:
Actual dying is based on a Hamingja Check, not a Fated Day d3 check/Number of Lives, at least in early NQ.
Unclear if magic referred to Hugareida or Seidr in that iteration of NQ.
Orthstirr-spending items exist. Or used to exist, anyway.
Odreng no matter so long as Dreng > Odreng
You no die from losing fights in spars or some times of combat.
Actual dying is based on a Hamingja Check, not a Fated Day d3 check/Number of Lives, at least in early NQ.
Within early NQ rules, we'd have like a 99.6% chance of getting a postive outcome from random events.
Early NQ combat rules are ridiculously pro-PC. We would need to fuck up combat turns 17 times in a row to actually die with Halla's current.
Magic was a planned part of NQ combat, and Hugr would have given combat dice if we did use magic in combat.
Unclear if magic referred to Hugareida or Seidr in that iteration of NQ.
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We have items that do this. All our magic material weapons you can spend Orthstirr for extra damage with.
That's not quite what it says. The higher is how the community views you, sure, but the lower still has some effect. I'm not at all sure that's changed.
That remains true? We've been told you don't always die at 0.
The Hamingja thing is indeed different now, though. As is the other stuff.
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In the sense of 'do more than 1 damage' that is.
Like, I was thinking in terms of 'spend 24 Orthstirr to get [Magic Effect X]' kind of stuff.
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That might also exist. I was just noting we knew for a fact that that some items where you spend Orthstirr do exist.
I have mixed feelings abaout Solrun death.
On one hand the information she gave us is really valuable, on the other hand i am still not sure it was worth her life.
Solrun was both really important for Halla emotionaly, and incredibly important strategicaly.
And also, she still had much to teach us abaout Seidr. Stuff we probably will never learn now.
So yeah, i am not sure if the information "you can't beat Drysalt in a direct fight" is more valuable than everything else Solrun meant for Halla.
Regarding Abjorn inheritance.
I hope his half brother is reasonable, otherwise i am fully on board for "disposing" of him. The asshole dosen't get to bully Abjorn out of the only good thing that Vidar left him.
Maybe we could prepare a "preventive" raid on him and his supporters?
On one hand the information she gave us is really valuable, on the other hand i am still not sure it was worth her life.
Solrun was both really important for Halla emotionaly, and incredibly important strategicaly.
And also, she still had much to teach us abaout Seidr. Stuff we probably will never learn now.
So yeah, i am not sure if the information "you can't beat Drysalt in a direct fight" is more valuable than everything else Solrun meant for Halla.
Regarding Abjorn inheritance.
I hope his half brother is reasonable, otherwise i am fully on board for "disposing" of him. The asshole dosen't get to bully Abjorn out of the only good thing that Vidar left him.
Maybe we could prepare a "preventive" raid on him and his supporters?
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When figuring out how valuable this was, we do also need to think about how accessible things are. Solrun was, realistically, our only source for the information she gave us, while (just as one example) if we can get Kolla on-side she can probably help us with a lot of Solrun's strategic stuff, and the seidr stuff we can probably figure out on our own for the most part (that is why Solrun graduated us, after all).
I still wish we'd voted to let her live, personally, but saying it flatly wasn't worth it seems wrong.
Honestly, if he keeps it to court cases aiming for Vidar's farm alone, I'd be against killing him. It's if he starts looking like he's gonna do a challenge that straight murder starts looking reasonable.
I mean, we don't even know what supporters he has. I think we need to meet the guy first before planning anything, even hypothetically.
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I think she knew she was going to die soon enough even without breaking her oath. which seems in line with everything else we saw in that update. it wasn't the choice between the info or Solrun lives forever, more like a choice between the info or Solrun lives 1-2 more turns.
remember, Solrun was the mother of Steinnar's two brothers. she was at least in her 70s right now, possibly in her 80s. she wasn't going to be there till Drysalt confrontation no matter what. like Steinnar, this gave her the chance to die for something she deemed worth it, rather then passing away in bed
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I'm pretty much positive, just narratively, that she would have lived to see Kolla again without this. So that's probably a year or so, but it might not have been much longer than that.
It sort of depends on how his invulnerability works, and what it comes from, precisely. We'd need to know the thematic basis of it in order to conjecture a possible counter. Like, there's various approaches we could take on getting More Boom - one idea I had was to use a Rewrite to remove the range limitation on Flamecalling, and then pull directly from the Sun, giving us an effectively infinite energy source of sunfire. But if More Boom is not the answer because it's actually about finding a thematic counter or clever solution, then we need to focus on that.
Like, another classic answer to an enemy who can regenerate/counter any attack is "force them to regenerate/evolve into a form where they're dead". Or if he can be bound, we find some form of "binding" which harnesses his own regeneration against itself, making him effectively dead for all time because his own invulnerability is holding up the binding. There's a lot of examples from fiction we could crib from of how immortal/invincible characters get ironically defeated by using their power against them, but it depends very specifically on how the power works.
Yeah, I think that it's safe to say this has almost certainly saved lives overall. We're able to tailor our approach now a lot more exactly, even assuming that in a counterfactual we still knew about the binding.
honestly I wander what 'a time before Midgard' would mean. is it before Norse culture and cultivation? before humanity? before the earth? before the universe?
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Before Ymir got got, because Midgard was made from his remains.
So yeah, he's fucking ancient. Might actually predate the Aesir.
how it would relate to other cultures though? like, Caroligians don't have that myth but live on the same time scale