You know Blackhand, it kind of sounds like Bram considered you a blood-brother. He's killed Rainmaker in blood vengeance over you already. In fact, I really do have to wonder if there's a Hallr Bramson around somewhere. You know, like how you named your eldest after Brimnir.
'It's not impossible that there's a Hallr Bramson out there, but I find that unlikely given that Ironjaw's sterile. However, with the existence of Kolla, perhaps that's changed?'
Hey Blackhand? Should I teach Steinarr Eyetalking? Do you think we're ready for that?
'I wish I knew how to answer that, I really do. I want nothing more than to speak to my son, to tell him how proud I am of him, but... Steinarr has lost much, can he bear the risk of losing me again?'
 
'It's not impossible that there's a Hallr Bramson out there, but I find that unlikely given that Ironjaw's sterile. However, with the existence of Kolla, perhaps that's changed?'
That one was probably the Seeress doing a giga Fertility ritual.

However if Steelfathers are sterile generally it would explain why Hookfingers would find great value in finding one of Geirmund's possibly lost children.
 
However if Steelfathers are sterile generally it would explain why Hookfingers would find great value in finding one of Geirmund's possibly lost children.

Bram never actually became a Steelfather in anything but name, from what we know, so his sterility would be from something else.

His claim to fame, from what we heard, is being considered a Steelfather without actually making a bargain with Steel.
 
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Bram never actually became a Steelfather in anything but name, from what we know, so his sterility would be from something else.
I mean, there has to be an explanation as to why there aren't Steelsons running around everywhere. If Steelfathers are fertile like regular Norsemen you'd expect them to have children all over the place. Steel being inimical to life also fits with them being Sterile.

I think the difference between a Steelfather and Ironjaw is that Ironjaw went through every step of the Steelfather process, but stopped short of the part where you convert the Iron in their body/soul/whatever into Steel.
 
Power requires sacrifice. It makes sense that a price for extending your own story is giving up the potential for any sequels.
 
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We know for a fact that the Matron had a daughter (who Blackhand slept with, IIRC), though it's possible that occurred before she became a Steelfather. I do think that if Bram is infertile there's a different reason for it than the Steelfather thing, since he is not spiritually or mystically a Steelfather.
 
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A squire interlude about someone asking about how his old pal Gabriel is doing with his squireship might be neat. Especially after this fight.
 
That depends if the Name is Objective Truth that we OOCly got to weigh in on, or if that's just Halla's term for it.
I think Saga Establishment is the objective truth, with our write in would have what Halla would have called it, before meeting someone else.
I think telling anyone the name of a Realm even if it's one we made up might be an issue. Hinting seems fine, though.
Hm.... I think saying even saga as is, is too on the nose still....
First step on the journey, perhaps?
I think we need Target-Tracking Eyes, or at least want it, but I'm otherwise down to remove the Fast and add some speed. Edited in.
Eh, we can pack just more orth into them, and I doubt Gabriel will let us make distance.

Another high twitch or dense muscle would be better imo
I mean, we absolutely do want to do super damaging ranged attacks, as high damage as possible to be honest, to get through his armor. The issue is that once his armor is penetrated we don't want to kill him so we don't want to be locked in to doing two or three at once.
And we can get that +1 damage for ranged from more orth in them no?

Gabriel will have a bucket load more dice than us, so it would be better to mitigate that than to have a +1 ranged damage when we will be in melee.
The manacles stopped him from cultivating and also from using his fervor in prayers. He was still able to infuse his basic attacks with fervor, but that's a far cry from his actual capabilities.

Sure!
Yeah...
Alright, perhaps we need... Whichever shapeshifting slot gives + dice for defense?
When he gets home he will be the weirdo murderhobo who can't plot to save his life and is constantly insulting people by accident but who nobody wants to fight if they can avoid it.
And he will be the one the old monsters want to teach, because his basics are just that solid too...
 
Hm.... I think saying even saga as is, is too on the nose still....
First step on the journey, perhaps?

I don't agree. References to sagas are common, this should work, I think.

Eh, we can pack just more orth into them, and I doubt Gabriel will let us make distance.

Another high twitch or dense muscle would be better imo

And we can get that +1 damage for ranged from more orth in them no?

Gabriel will have a bucket load more dice than us, so it would be better to mitigate that than to have a +1 ranged damage when we will be in melee.

Uh...no. Orthstirr cannot add to damage at all (some Tricks do, but not Orthstirr alone). Odr can, but we're not using Odr for damage during a spar.

And even if we stay in melee, Kindle Spinner and Sparkbomb are both technically ranged attacks which we nevertheless tend to use in melee. That wouldn't be enough to keep Target-Tracking eyes on its own, but I lack the absolute belief that Gabriel can actually stop us from extending distance if we want. He might be able to, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it, and TTE is at least decently useful even if we can't.

Yeah...
Alright, perhaps we need... Whichever shapeshifting slot gives + dice for defense?

Nah, it only gives 1d per rolled defense. Not worth it at all under these circumstances.

A mystery interlude about some squire fighting against a norsemen? From their perspective?
A letter about My Tyme Amonge The Noarwygn Heathennes, written to the Bishop on request.

I'd definitely be down for either of those, yeah. Can't speak to anyone else.
 
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Hey Halla,

Did Modgudr, Thor, or Odin (in his guise as the Skald and the Lawspeaker) have that Spotlight effect over them?
 
A mystery interlude about some squire fighting against a norsemen? From their perspective?
We could cycle on back to that standard isekai protagonist gets bodied joke from a long while back. The POV of that particular interlude would be some arrogant isekai protagonist whose knowledge of Norse is entirely pop culture based.
A letter about My Tyme Amonge The Noarwygn Heathennes, written to the Bishop on request.
Goddammit, when I read that title I immediately leapt to trying to extend it into a light novel title. The ones that could be summaries unto themselves.

'My Viking Shieldmaiden Captor Can't Possibly Be This Cute!' or something like that
Hey Halla,

Did Modgudr, Thor, or Odin (in his guise as the Skald and the Lawspeaker) have that Spotlight effect over them?
If they did, then it was absorbed by the awe you felt being in their presence
 
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An interlude from an isekei'd squire who was part of Gabriel's Squire generation? Some who would be particular powerful trying to jail break the christian cultivation system. But it's not working so well given it requires faith. Someone who is good at courtly intrigue but not so much as fighting.
 
One thing I'm curious about is Gabriel and Asveig. Her death led directly to Gabriel being freed, if God decided to free him it was by the medium of killing Asveig. How does he feel about that?
 
One thing I'm curious about is Gabriel and Asveig. Her death led directly to Gabriel being freed, if God decided to free him it was by the medium of killing Asveig. How does he feel about that?

It really didn't. We intended to free him either way, and had enough money to buy his freedom even if dad charged us rather than gave him to us (thralls are not super expensive, and he was not a super good thrall in terms of his farming skills). Halla probably would've mentioned that at some point, and it's not that hard to intuit even if she didn't.

Asveig dying made no material difference to his situation whatsoever.
 
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Uh...no. Orthstirr cannot add to damage at all (some Tricks do, but not Orthstirr alone). Odr can, but we're not using Odr for damage during a spar.

And even if we stay in melee, Kindle Spinner and Sparkbomb are both technically ranged attacks which we nevertheless tend to use in melee. That wouldn't be enough to keep Target-Tracking eyes on its own, but I lack the absolute belief that Gabriel can actually stop us from extending distance if we want. He might be able to, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it, and TTE is at least decently useful even if we can't.
Ah, my bad on the ort on damage then.

But we are, again, in the debate if it's worth to spam ranged attacks if only a shapeshift slot makes them relevant.

We learned more ranged tricks party to avoid this happening, partly for expanding our options.

We have emberwind and galespear online, use them!
We will need every edge we can get and a +1 damage on randeg attacks while good, isn't that nice if it doesn't go through or do just 1 damage.
Nah, it only gives 1d per rolled defense. Not worth it at all under these circumstances.
only if we don't us rolled defenses. And now that Gabriel can use fervour in his prayers...
Well, those perfect defenses can be surmounted by a puncture parallel easily.
Do remember. He knows us. And we do not know how prayers work in general, dead priest and escape squire non withstanding.
 
We don't know what the 'Christian Meta' is for combat. They have one for mass combat (just swing wildly), who knows they use for single combat though. There are presumably anti-knight styles for knights to learn to fight other knights.
 
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