NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

The Lone badger · May 26, 2023

You know what would be really useful in this fight? A shield!
Next time we gain a shapeshift slot I want to start single-handing Sagaseeker so we can use a shield. Maybe even forge an iron-faced one like Torsten's.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

The Lone badger said:
You know what would be really useful in this fight? A shield!

Er...no it wouldn't. We have infinite shields at 4 Orthstirr a pop with Halting Vortex and couldn't use Hugareida while holding a physical one. I honestly fail to see how a physical one would be remotely helpful to us.

Our next shapeshift slot (which is quite a long way off barring shapecrafting...Infused Hamr 6 is probably the next one) is honestly probably gonna be more Fasts so we can hit Frenzy 6 in the long term. That gets broken real quick.

TheCount · May 26, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
-[X] 0d6 Intercept

I think we should keep a HV ready to save Hasvir

Imperial Fister said:
Your battle has moved away from where Hasvir lays on a pile of broken chairs, which is now to your back. The entrance is to your left. The Threaded Man has its back to a surprisingly intact table.

If it shots, it might take Hasvir, as a target of opportunity.
Also, that table.... I feel like it will be used as a shield or obstacle against us, what with the third arm on it's back.

wrecksalot · May 26, 2023

TheCount said:
I think we should keep a HV ready to save Hasvir

If it shots, it might take Hasvir, as a target of opportunity.
Also, that table.... I feel like it will be used as a shield or obstacle against us, what with the third arm on it's back.

It was entirely focused on us earlier, there's literally no reason for it to try anything against Hasvir

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

TheCount said:
I think we should keep a HV ready to save Hasvir

Sure. I can add that in.

TheCount said:
Also, that table.... I feel like it will be used as a shield or obstacle against us, what with the third arm on it's back.

This is possible. Not much we can do about it, I don't think. Like, that would foil one attack at most, and getting rid of it likely also takes one attack, so...

wrecksalot said:
It was entirely focused on us earlier, there's literally no reason for it to try anything against Hasvir

I tend to agree, but noting that we'll use a Halting Vortex to save him if it comes up costs us nothing. Like, it costs us if he's attacked, of course, but only then.

Shard · May 26, 2023

Gotta say, Hasvirquest is Not Happy right now being the damsel in distress.

Also Horra's really been powerlevelling his Shapecrafting ever since the Nisse.

TheCount · May 26, 2023

wrecksalot said:
It was entirely focused on us earlier, there's literally no reason for it to try anything against Hasvir

He is right behind us though, and it's on the cautious phase now, and why not take the shot if it's in the right direction anyway?

Edit:

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Sure. I can add that in.

Thanks, I know it's paranoid, but that set up just screams potshot to me.

Edit 2: forgot to vote....
[X] Plan Keep Hammering

Too bad we can't herd it in a corner, but guess that would be too much to ask for, with the interior so devestated.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

TheCount said:
Thanks, I know it's paranoid, but that set up just screams potshot to me.

Added. And I'm all for paranoia when it costs nothing. When it starts costing things then you have to start weighing factors, but precautions without a cost? We should load up as many of those as possible.

Simon_Jester · May 26, 2023

Shard said:
Torsten's group has a ton of heavy hitters (or rather everyone in his group is a heavy hitter), they're fine.

My first thought was "wait, the elephant merchant is a heavy hitter? We barely know that guy!"

Then I realized that his chosen career path involves wandering the globe finding literal elephants and punching them in the face until they give up and stop fighting his attempt to bring them to fucking Norway on a medieval sailing vessel.

So yes, yes, he is probably a heavy hitter.

wrecksalot · May 26, 2023

Simon_Jester said:
My first thought was "wait, the elephant merchant is a heavy hitter? We barely know that guy!"

Then I realized that his chosen career path involves wandering the globe finding literal elephants and punching them in the face until they give up and stop fighting his attempt to bring them to fucking Norway on a medieval sailing vessel.

So yes, yes, he is probably a heavy hitter.

It also means he has a boat, so he's definitely a heavy hitter.

Mystic Pentagram · May 26, 2023

[X] Plan Keep Hammering

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

Simon_Jester said:
My first thought was "wait, the elephant merchant is a heavy hitter? We barely know that guy!"

All the judges were almost certainly men of 30 or more, so I think he's a badass by that measure alone (as is Haleikr). Though perhaps not on, like, Steinarr's level.

But yes, there are multiple reasons to believe the elephant merchant specifically is even more badass than that.

TheCount said:
Too bad we can't herd it in a corner, but guess that would be too much to ask for, with the interior so devestated.

The hope is that freezing it in place with IAT will allow much the same effect as that would, only more so.

Like, the ideal version of this turn for us is that we close the distance, it attacks us, gets Contested Movement counterattacked, attacks us again, gets frozen in place, and then we go to town for several attacks while it's stuck. How viable that is remains an open question, but it's the hope.

weeblypanda · May 26, 2023

No one wants to heal our ally? I get the Threaded is a threat but no tactics for Sear-Sickness?

Alectai · May 26, 2023

weeblypanda said:
No one wants to heal our ally? I get the Threaded is a threat but no tactics for Sear-Sickness?

Healing isn't a free action, and this thing is faster than us.

Not by as much as it could be because Halla is a speed demon, but it's still very, very fast.

wrecksalot · May 26, 2023

weeblypanda said:
No one wants to heal our ally? I get the Threaded is a threat but no tactics for Sear-Sickness?

It is faster than us and deals 6 damage per shot, taking time to apply sickness dear gives it like 3 free attacks on us.

Shard · May 26, 2023

Is attackspeed relative or absolute?

Does Halla having Attack Speed 3 to Threaded Man's 5 mean it gets 3 attack for each of Halla's, or 5 attacks for every 3 of Halla's?

Alectai · May 26, 2023

Shard said:
Is attackspeed relative or absolute?

Does Halla having Attack Speed 3 to Threaded Man's 5 mean it gets 3 attack for each of Halla's, or 5 attacks for every 3 of Halla's?

It got three attacks to Halla's one until she put up Mire Ward (Which also countered the third attack as Mire Ward is evidently a hard counter against projectile attacks), then she got three attacks in before it could break away.

Shard · May 26, 2023

Wait, does Mire Ward just lock down enemies straight to Speed 1 like Sten's Slow Windbolt?

wrecksalot · May 26, 2023

Oh man, if that's the case then Mire Ward is awesome in a toe to toe fight. I totally see why we sometimes opt for it over Halting Vortex.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

Alectai said:
It got three attacks to Halla's one until she put up Mire Ward (Which also countered the third attack as Mire Ward is evidently a hard counter against projectile attacks), then she got three attacks in before it could break away.

It actually only got two to one before the Mire Ward kicked in (two attacks from it/one from us/one from it...I guess two counting the projectile/Mire Ward kicks in), which tracks with it being 5 to 3.

Shard said:
Wait, does Mire Ward just lock down enemies straight to Speed 1 like Sten's Slow Windbolt?

Probably not, but I bet it rounds down and dropping its speed below ours is still pretty good...not when it's going for a grapple and we need to get in close, though, which is why no Mire Ward this turn (well, that and wanting to use IAT).

Shard · May 26, 2023

Also, could the Shapeshifting rules be pinned somewhere?

The Crafting Items defence bonuses being pinned somewhere would also be good.

Hopefully we get Shapeshifting Slots at a better than than 3 Infusions/Shapeshift.

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

Shard said:
Also, could the Shapeshifting rules be pinned somewhere?

The Crafting Items defence bonuses being pinned somewhere would also be good.

These, the Alloy rules, and maybe the full gear list someone suggested a while back would be good.

Shard said:
Hopefully we get Shapeshifting Slots at a better than than 3 Infusions/Shapeshift.

I mean, you get one at Hamr 4, then another at Hamr 7 and every point of Hamr thereafter. So I'd assume we likewise get one per Hamr Infusion from Hamr Infusion 6 onward. Of course, getting Hamr Infusion 7 is wildly expensive (64 Odr!) and probably requires Hamr 8 as well, so...

We'd also presumably get another one for our Fylgja at Fylgja Infusion 6, which would help with Fasts at least, but that might be a little while (at 96 successes, that's nearly as far away as Hamr 8).

We can also get more from a Shapecrafter but that either involves a trip to Jurgby and a lot of money or trusting one of Horra's kids who knew about the Twisted Men to perform an operation on us which is, uh, perhaps ill-advised.

I.F. Ister · May 26, 2023

Shard said:
Also, could the Shapeshifting rules be pinned somewhere?

I just stuck the Shapeshifting rules in the main mechanics post, plus available shapeshifts. That's in hamr, of course.

I also added the types of death to the dying and continuing on section.

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
These, the Alloy rules, and maybe the full gear list someone suggested a while back would be good.

I'll add these when I get a chance... which might be a while for the gear list lmao. Not the most excited for that one

The Lone badger · May 26, 2023

DeadmanwalkingXI said:
We can also get more from a Shapecrafter but that either involves a trip to Jurgby and a lot of money or trusting one of Horra's kids who knew about the Twisted Men to perform an operation on us which is, uh, perhaps ill-advised.

We will soon have a ship. Ships are a good way to get to faraway places and to obtain money (by going to faraway places and taking their money).

DeadmanwalkingXI · May 26, 2023

Imperial Fister said:
I'll add these when I get a chance... which might be a while for the gear list lmao. Not the most excited for that one

That's fair. It's not urgent or anything, especially the gear list which can likely just wait until the next time we go shopping.

The Lone badger said:
We will soon have a ship. Ships are a good way to get to faraway places and to obtain money (by going to faraway places and taking their money).

Well yes. They can also be used for trade, which we may be doing next rather than raiding. I wasn't saying shapecrafting was impossible, just that it might be a minute.

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