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We gain 3000 fel orcs after defeating their leader and we are currently going the King of Alterac.
Orc Quest; or, A Critical Examination of Agency Through in Interactive Fiction (Warcraft)
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We gain 3000 fel orcs after defeating their leader and we are currently going the King of Alterac.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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As in all fel orcs, or just fel worshipping orcs? If I recall correctly that's a blade master from Black Rock and Roll 2.
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fel orcs they have red skin and spikes (also their leader is one of the orcs arthas fought in warcraft 3 but here he survived)
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Yeah I thought I recognised him. Bastard caused me a lot of trouble as a kid.
Anyway, mmm...that's going to be problematic, but they're not the sorry lot in the outlands so we'll see.
Other than getting a replacement blademaster as a bodyguard/close companion who's Sesk 2.0 complete with a fel orc clan, the world has moved on it's own. Feldad is successful in strengthening his position in Desolace beating the crap out of centaurs and quillboars while using Drek Thar's stupid assassination to make Thrall look bad especially when he set off on a shaman sabbatical to git gud because Forneus as a high ranking elemental worfed the horde's shamans so he came back to find even the Frostwolves unhappy at him.
Onyxia thanks to her persona to the Prestor family is able to inherit the royal titles of Alterac. No doubt as settling in Alterac is winning and there's good points to it, she'll be willing to cooperate when Kalaran is already working with Grok.
I'm beginning to suspect how the king was found to be dead maybe a black dragon plot because of how that assassin guild worked. They were opposed to the syndicate and would have used the situation to their advantage after slitting the king's throat during the midst of battle only to be used in turn and have their own backstab them because they have black dragon infiltrators in their membership.
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I'll write a summary before the Arc 3 start, will be a good jumping in point I think for others.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Yeh. Not sure if the vote is closed, but assuming it is my vote is for into the cold or ruling in alterac.
Write in vote would be for all in. Go smack the black hands.
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Would be next arc. you've not even encountered them properly yet. However, if you did Alterac then you'd eventually have to do some stuff with them etc because Rend would see you as a threat.
Vote is indeed still open though , Alterac leading
Actually yeah he would because of Grok's position to represent the will of the orcs in the east when he's seen more positively by the alliance and even wandering orcs seeking a place of belonging.
He wouldn't like that especially if what remains of the Dragonmaw orcs decided to shack up with Grok which would make a curious combo if they redo their dragon riding practices with the black dragons should it ever happen.
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rend is just content to sit around and do nothing at least thrall has a vision whats rend sit around and eh not even control his own men. I guess he lost whatever drive he had when his brother died (he might see us as a more of a threat cause we are near his power base)
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MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Honestly i wouldn't say he os quite radical on this way, just that elementals are unreliable and capricious, and often not hostile.
He understands enough the mindset of a shaman and if it works for them it works for them, it doesn't really work for him trough.
Also no comments on the Life and death spirit, Life because he still did not figures out how it works and relates to the light and death because it's really stupid poke at the thing that can kill you as the most mild accident.
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While he may have his own policies, such as trying to move in on Stormwind for example, the main issue is that he's enthralled by Neferian.
Therefore we'd have to question what Neferian's strategy is. In part at least he's building up, the Dark Horde are mainly there to provide ablative armour for the Black Dragons, which are still trying to recover after various conflicts. Similarly, Neferian is doing his Chromatic experiments, which to be fair are fairly successul so far.
Neferian doesn't need to do much with Stormwind because his sister is basically ruling it, so he might for example direct his attention northward.
There's also Deathwing to consider. To what extent are Neferian and Onyxia's policies merely extensions of Deathwing's? Do they have independent ambitions or are they in frequent contact with Deathwing in preparation for the Hour of Twilight?
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I completly forgot he was behind chromatis till you mentioned that
edit: I guess just like his father he couldn't resist creating his own slaves
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I just fear that we are going to become puppets of the Black Dragonflight, to be discarded as filthy Orcs by the courageous totally-not-manipulated humans as soon as we are not 100% puppets. And Grok'mash is too straightforward and magically inclined to be a good puppet for long.
Why nobody remarked on the small fact that one of the Fellowship that faced the Four Horsemen... suddenly mUTatEd into a DRAGON? There should have been an interrogation as to "why have you hidden your nature so?" followed by the decision of "you, working with us? Thanks but no, thanks"
Why nobody remarked on the small fact that one of the Fellowship that faced the Four Horsemen... suddenly mUTatEd into a DRAGON? There should have been an interrogation as to "why have you hidden your nature so?" followed by the decision of "you, working with us? Thanks but no, thanks"
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1- in char it makes no sense for grok to refuse since the horde has worked with black dragons before so without meta gamming it (which is kinda impossible in these kind of games) we cant go oh they work for the old gods cause we have had twlight hammer cultests with us
2 - we did have a talk with him and the only person who isn't allied to us 100% (cause vrak is our blood brother, sesk is our teacher/bodyguard, slivanas or doesn't care, Kaldrin himself is the dragon, okay I forgot castlian was their but he wouldn't care either apart from to tell varmitas ho would likely tell balnazar) sally was permantly made mute but conserding she was knocked out right after she might not remember and Grok response was after talking to him
3. as far as I can tell ofc the black dragons are focusing more on the southern part of the eastern kingdoms and see alterac as a way to gain legitimacy (neferan has the dark horde, onyixia has stormwind and both are near the portal to where deathwing is)
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Deathwing is going to be a balls for sure. The fact he's got elemental power galore is just icing on the cake aswell to be honest.
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It's unclear to what extend the Scourging of Lordaeron was also scourging other places. It hit Lordaeron mainly because that was the strongest kingdom, then they got Archimonde in who destroyed dalaran, and then it seems that the majority of the force travelled to Kalimdor to take on the Nelves. However, we know that Gilneas was incidentally attacked, and we know that places like Southshore or Arathi weren't really affected. Same for Kul Tiras. As such, it may be that Alterac, with teh exception of Arthas attacking the Blackrock, wasn't particularly affected, and therefore there's no blight to clear up etc.
Sure that's a concern, and looking at Neferian does clearly demonstrate that he thinks of the Dark Horde as tools, but I would note as well that externally, it appears that the Blacks have been reliable and useful allies for at least 15 years. They were one of the first factions to ally with the Orcs, and continue to support them in various ways.
The only people who'd mention it would be Castillian and Whitemane. While Whitemane was indeed injured, she can probably still write, and in general I don't think either of them would have a great deal of remarks to make on the matter. Castillian is a Legion agent, and thinks you are too, which means he's fine with just letting you handle it until he can report back to Varimathras (who presumably is over in Desolace with the Forsaken now). And Whitemane, given she knows you can use the Light, is also ok with it because you're in close conference with high level paladins. She therefore trusts you to deal with it. However, to specifically address this, yes let us imagine that Grok mentioned at some point that he would manage it, and that the others are indeed fine with it.
I won't specifically remark on this as I don't tend to go into what others are thinkign because yknow its agency quest and that means uncertainty too, but yes that's certaintly something they might be doing. Don't put all your eggs in one basket etc.
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speaking of not putting eggs into one basket, the black dragons ofc that we know of have a base in blackrock (nerferan) one in kaliandor (onyxia has some eggs their) and in outland with sebellon (not that I am sure they even know his lot are still around or that they are not as corrupted as them by the old gods) maybe they want a new one to place some eggs (this is just looking at patterns and might not in anyway mean anything just something I am thinking of)
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Their deal is that the Dragonflights follow the cue of their chief dragon to self-destructive extents.
The Red flight was paralyzed with indecision when Alexstraza was captured by the Dragonmaw clan. The Blue Dragonflight went mad along with Malagos and mostly died off, etc.
So the Black Dragonflights issue is that Neltharion has been aligned with the Old gods imprisoned inside Azeroth for 10 millenia. This has driven him insane via mental corruption and leads him to making all kinds of bad calls. Which the rest of the dragonflight support him on. So his policy is to screw Legion and screw the mortal peoples of Azeroth. Everything they do kinda flows from there.
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MrRobot
In doubt there's always the Sun!
Kino.
It's probably in Gork's best interest to restore the black chief dragon if possible, the light have that tendency, or at least the light when wielded by the paladins.
Also the black drogon boss was one in one of the least liked expansions wasant it? Look like is made of magma and such?
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yes deathwing is from that expansion and in my opinion in the game alone is the second worst villian (jailor, I don't count his book char cause that should of been in the game but dragonflight and the books do show an interesting char/villian I just wish that was in catalysm) and while black dragons can be purified from the void (wraithion by the red dragons, ebonhorn/ebyssian by hugh highmountain and sabellion by being on a different planet so far away from the old gods whispers) I am not sure its possible to purify a dragon aspect
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