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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)

I want to talk to dwarves, this should help. Though at some point I hope we can actually finish a Boon lol.
 
... Oh hey

'Drysalt'

The first thing that came to mind when we saw Hasvir was that he was a swimmer, and the attack he used was that water erosion.

Which implies he's a master of illusion as well, or at clouding minds.

Yeah, he's a Water Master who's also an illusionist, which is exactly what you want to throw at our line.
 
So yeah, our strategy accomplished everything we set out to do. We gained some critical information on our Real Enemy without exposing us--and more importantly, it's another piece of data we can use in the upcoming Trial.
 
Imperial Fister said:
It had only been there for a couple weeks, most of which was spent digging out the cave and making it sufficiently 'troll-like'.
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BTW, is the aftermath to what we learned coming up in the follow-up post? Because we just revealed a hell of a lot of Horra's cards right there, and I don't think he was expecting to get outwitted like that. Though he was expecting the Troll to turn on him eventually, which was just good sense.

The thing about smart-asses is that they tend to dismiss the possibility of someone playing them. That's why the people who tend to get scammed hardest are the ones who have the highest view of their own intellect.
 
[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)

"Beings outside the law".
Includes bandits ("tell me everything about your camp and I'll let you go").
Probably includes our raid victims, as they aren't norse. (@Imperial Fister: Are our raid victims outside the law? I.e. would the knight situation have counted for advancing the trait?)
 
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Huh. The air turned dry when Hasvir did his thing. Does that mean he takes moisture from the air to do his thing? Could we somehow exploit that - I don't know, get rid of any moisture in the air with something like Wildfire? Although we don't actually have Wildfire.

[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
 
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Constenanto said:
Huh. The air turned dry when Hasvir did his thing. Does that mean he takes moisture from the air to do his thing? Could we somehow exploit that - I don't know, get rid of any moisture in the air with something like Wildfire? Although we don't actually have Wildfire.

[X] Kenning: Trolltalker - Bonus dice towards social checks with trolls
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It's Salt.

He's using an Ocean based Hugareida--one that specializes in Erosion apparently. Salt tends to desiccate the air when it's unleashed to a large amount.

Honestly, he might just using a Salt based Hug...

SALT

MY GOD

DID YOU PLAN THIS TOO @Imperial Fister !
 
Alectai said:
... Oh hey

'Drysalt'

The first thing that came to mind when we saw Hasvir was that he was a swimmer, and the attack he used was that water erosion.

Which implies he's a master of illusion as well, or at clouding minds.

Yeah, he's a Water Master who's also an illusionist, which is exactly what you want to throw at our line.
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Could definitely be illusions, but it could also be shapeshifting. A flowing form isn't an uncommon ability for water users in fiction, and we know Hamr 7 allows it anyways.
 
KreenWarrior said:
Could definitely be illusions, but it could also be shapeshifting. A flowing form isn't an uncommon ability for water users in fiction, and we know Hamr 7 allows it anyways.
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Seems like a bit much for Hamr 7 alone? Though if he's got higher than that... Uh, he's actually a beast.

Then again, we don't actually know how Shapeshifting works, so it's possible.
 
[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
 
[x] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
 
That went well. Good on us everyone! And yeah, Hasvir there having some sort of Water/Salt Hugareida makes sense. Hmmm.

Imperial Fister said:
[ ] Feat: Calmed a troll and redirected it towards an enemy (+3 orthstirr)
[ ] Kenning: Trolltalker - Bonus dice towards social checks with trolls
[ ] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
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@Imperial Fister for the Feat, is that per year, and for the Boon, who qualifies as 'outside the law'...like, would a Knight or a Dwarf count just for being from other cultures, or only bandits and actual monsters?

Constenanto said:
Would the cave serve as sufficient evidence of the troll? Or do we need more concrete information?
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We don't really need evidence of the troll. We have the Scorn-Pole, which is plenty of evidence someone has it out for us...what we need is a way to prove Horra is behind it...and we had little evidence of that in the first place even with the troll.
 
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Constenanto said:
Would the cave serve as sufficient evidence of the troll? Or do we need more concrete information?
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Not enough, sadly.

And he had Hasvir destroy the evidence that a Troll was on his land too. So it's down to Our Word against His.

But that's good, we still learned a lot just by doing this. He didn't even bother to question the Troll, since he must have assumed "We just dug a trap for it and it got pissed off at him over it". So our hand is still relatively concealed, though he probably figures the Scorn-Pole was taken down, though he likely doesn't know we did so without consequence.
 
Toboe said:
(@Imperial Fister: Are our raid victims outside the law? I.e. would have the knight situation have counted for advancing the trait?)
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They are, yes.

I will say that it retroactively counts, sure.
Alectai said:
BTW, is the aftermath to what we learned coming up in the follow-up post? Because we just revealed a hell of a lot of Horra's cards right there, and I don't think he was expecting to get outwitted like that. Though he was expecting the Troll to turn on him eventually, which was just good sense.
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The aftermath of the entire adventure or what Horra does in response? I was planning on having a happy reunion between Halla and Steinarr in the next update before ending the turn.
Alectai said:
DID YOU PLAN THIS TOO @Imperial Fister !
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
@Imperial Fister for the Feat, is that per year, and for the Boon, who qualifies as 'outside the law'...like, would a Knight or a Dwarf count just for being from other cultures, or only bandits and actual monsters?
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Per year, yes. Anyone who isn't Norse/doesn't speak the language is outside of the law. The Boon does not apply to most dwarfs while it does apply to the vast majority of Knights.
 
Imperial Fister said:
Per year, yes. Anyone who isn't Norse/doesn't speak the language is outside of the law. The Boon does not apply to most dwarfs while it does apply to the vast majority of Knights.
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I'm down with that, then. 3 Orthstirr a year is good, but we get a fair bit of that already and it's easier to get more than a useful Trait, and I think peaceful interactions with non-Norse are gonna be a thing at least some of the time going forward.

[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
 
[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
 
Imperial Fister said:
The aftermath of the entire adventure or what Horra does in response? I was planning on having a happy reunion between Halla and Steinarr in the next update before ending the turn.
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The former, what Horra does in response is... Well, we suspected he'd step things up in the aftermath, but I don't believe he knows we're on to him yet or that we just played him enough to reveal some of his cards, he didn't even bother questioning the Troll, and the story of him storming out covered in spearheads makes him falling into a trap seem obvious. "So they found the Scorn-Pole, sucks, but whatever."
 
Alectai said:
MASTERSTROKE!

A fuckin MASTERSTROKE

We unveiled one of Horra's Biggest Secrets--that Hasvir's his son apparently, who he's setting up as his successor, or otherwise as a terrifying weapon against our line--probably our Final Boss in this particular feud given how few people knew about him.

But yeah, Horra's apparently good enough to forge Sunlight into a knife, I am very glad now that we didn't decide to headchop him ourselves. He also likes trying to bait you into doing something stupid first.

We learned a lot from this play, not the least managing to defeat the Troll completely bloodlessly.
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Okay. I'm missing something. Was the fact that Hasvir was Horra's son a mystery? I mean, did we even know who Hasvir was? For that matter, our enemy's name is "Horra Hasvisson"... so he named his son after his father? That's not exactly hiding things.
Alectai said:
Honestly, he might just using a Salt based Hug...

SALT

MY GOD

DID YOU PLAN THIS TOO @Imperial Fister !
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...and I'm obviously missing something here, too. Please explain?

[X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)
 
Alectai said:
... Oh hey

'Drysalt'

The first thing that came to mind when we saw Hasvir was that he was a swimmer, and the attack he used was that water erosion.

Which implies he's a master of illusion as well, or at clouding minds.

Yeah, he's a Water Master who's also an illusionist, which is exactly what you want to throw at our line.
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Going back to this for a moment:

I wouldn't assume Drysalt is Hasvir, though it could be. It could easily also be Horra himself, he has the skill set and is more than old enough to have picked up shapeshifting and/or illusions. Like, I would imagine that Horra himself may not have picked up any Water Hugareida, but he definitely has some deception-related ones.

Sirrocco said:
Okay. I'm missing something. Was the fact that Hasvir was Horra's son a mystery? I mean, did we even know who Hasvir was? For that matter, our enemy's name is "Horra Hasvisson"... so he named his son after his father? That's not exactly hiding things.
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The reveal is not really his existence (we knew Horra had several children), but his capabilities, which seem to be considerable and we had no idea of one way or the other before now.

Sirrocco said:
Okay. I'm obviously missing something here. Please explain?
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It's a joke about our enemies being 'salty'.
 
Sirrocco said:
Okay. I'm missing something. Was the fact that Hasvir was Horra's son a mystery? I mean, did we even know who Hasvir was? For that matter, our enemy's name is "Horra Hasvisson"... so he named his son after his father? That's not exactly hiding things.

Okay. I'm obviously missing something here. Please explain?
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We knew there was A Hasvir that was involved with testing Stronghoof, but we didn't know if it was Horra under a pseudonym or something, we just got it confirmed he's one of Horra's sons--one we didn't know of.

The last part is me realizing that Hasvir has become Enlightened as to the True Nature of Salt by listening to his father's bitching and complaining over the years. Joking aside, the fact it's apparently in the Water School is nasty for us. And he's either a gifted illusionist in his own right or has Hamr comparable to Abjorn and could just shapeshift into a Troll in order to break the ice with the one we just had turned back on him.

Either way, I think he's our specific Final Boss, and he's a bad matchup for us to boot because we take extra damage from Water.
 
So... this guy has been prepping to have Steinarr attack him in his place of power for years now... and he's good enough to prep specific counters to the people who he expects will come after him. Probably worth thinking about that when we build any further plans about the guy.
 
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