Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
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- Plato´s cave.
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- She/Her/It/Its
I remember it being said at some point by Boney or Codex that that isn't a thing for the empire, luckily enough.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- Fantasy Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
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- Finland
That as well, but lot of enemies the empire faces can, to some extent, mitigate if not ignore those.
Like undead, or orcs, or beastmen, or chaos...
Not aware enough of the coastal issues so can't say how much it would cause issues for the Norscans or Dark Elves.
Ulthuani are unlikely to attack the Empire at level where the Emperor needs to get involved, same for Bretonnia and Kislev, Karaz Ankor is straight out...
- Location
- USA
Jaya Ballard quotes are by far some of the best flavor text in the game.
"Some have said there is no subtlety to destruction. You know what? They're dead."
- Location
- Utrecht
She's what I imagine current Mathilde would be like if she got a Palette shift to the Bright College.
Zedman7054
Eternally 3rd
- Location
- United States
In Nehekara the first born son would be handed to the Mortuary Cult to learn their ways, while the second son was typically the heir. It would be a funny coincidence if that's what would happen.
[X] Wizard
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
- Location
- Jerkville
Considering how many kings there have been, and the amount of belief and prayer around them, I'm pretty sure you'd have to establish a world without kings for a couple thousand years to bleed off the associated energies and existing channels for belief to fall into. Presuming the danged planet hasn't picked up a Divine Right of Kings Mark requiring everyone to move to somewhere else.
There's ways even there. Heidi's second child going for Grand Theogonist for instance.
Or more boringly, just ensuring that Mandred is a dawongr that somehow puts Mathilde to shame.
My mind went to somehow convincing Laurelorn to join and finagling anpther Elector vote for Imperial Dawi, then proceeded all the way past that to crazytown with a vote for the Free Underground States of Not-Skaven, Yes-Yes.
Failure to alliterate with berzerker. That's a Grudging.
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- Location
- Utrecht
Especially if he goes to the Light/Amethyst college.
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- He/Him
My first two reactions to seeing the threadmarks title were, in sequence:
"Oh yay the wedding is here, what fun"
and
"Oh my god, 'Part 1'??? Does something horrible happen?"
Not disproven yet, but at least the decision merely involves being a critical deciding factor in the fate of our godson and Empire. A bit disappointing that Ranaldian Priest is way more of a political suicide than I expected. And that Wizard will probably guarantee his inheritance "merely" being Elector Count, although honestly he might still have a shot later on if he is sufficiently spectacular. I would've preferred Ranaldian Priest, but there's just too many risks of destroying his future.
It's like that Nat 100 just ended what I thought would be Karl Franz 2.0, which hasn't been how I've been thinking about it until now.
"Oh yay the wedding is here, what fun"
and
"Oh my god, 'Part 1'??? Does something horrible happen?"
Not disproven yet, but at least the decision merely involves being a critical deciding factor in the fate of our godson and Empire. A bit disappointing that Ranaldian Priest is way more of a political suicide than I expected. And that Wizard will probably guarantee his inheritance "merely" being Elector Count, although honestly he might still have a shot later on if he is sufficiently spectacular. I would've preferred Ranaldian Priest, but there's just too many risks of destroying his future.
It's like that Nat 100 just ended what I thought would be Karl Franz 2.0, which hasn't been how I've been thinking about it until now.
That's true but it feels more in character for Mathilde to say, 'have you thought of a different God?' but also shy away from Sigmar who is probably the most rock solid choice. As far as presenting your blessing goes though just casting some divine magic is a pretty obvious tell. Being 'blessed' is pretty obvious if you let it be and the information would spread around.
That being said I think Shallya could be a really great choice. Heidi herself carries blessings from Ranald and Shallya so it seems like a good choice from her perspective due to the close relationship. Also everyone loves Shallya so it's a good choice in general I think.
Sigmar would probably be my second choice, but Mathilde would likely be reluctant to say it. Ulric would be number three from me since I think that's contentious enough to come out fairly neutral rather than ++super beneficial that blessed of Sigmar would probably be.
In general I think if Mandred wants to be Emperor then being a wizard would probably kill any potential aspirations in that direction. Nullification seems like a bad idea in general. So being a divine caster seems like the way to go for Mandred to have the best opportunities in life.
Lazurman
This is fine.
- Location
- Classified
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- He/Him
[X] Ranald
Right. I get that this is probably a futile effort, but I might as well say it: Karl Franz, chosen of Sigmar, was one of the best warriors and statesmen the Empire ever had.
We do not have a Karl Franz, and we likely never will.
What we do have is Mandred. Son of the ballsiest Ranaldite in the Empire. With the work we did to empower Ranald, He is ascendant in comparison to OTL, to the point that He was willing to go toe to toe with Khorne for us.
I want for the boy who may become Emperor to have a god at his back. So why not pick one that's always had ours? Shape Mandred into a guile hero who gives a shit about the lowly masses.
In addition, we already have our eye on a wizard apprentice: Eike. I don't want to divide our loyalties and be forced to pick one over the other.
Right. I get that this is probably a futile effort, but I might as well say it: Karl Franz, chosen of Sigmar, was one of the best warriors and statesmen the Empire ever had.
We do not have a Karl Franz, and we likely never will.
What we do have is Mandred. Son of the ballsiest Ranaldite in the Empire. With the work we did to empower Ranald, He is ascendant in comparison to OTL, to the point that He was willing to go toe to toe with Khorne for us.
I want for the boy who may become Emperor to have a god at his back. So why not pick one that's always had ours? Shape Mandred into a guile hero who gives a shit about the lowly masses.
In addition, we already have our eye on a wizard apprentice: Eike. I don't want to divide our loyalties and be forced to pick one over the other.
- Location
- USA
I've complained about Adela being the least memorable of all the Ducklings, but now maybe it isn't so bad that she's the way she is. 🤔
I'm not sure recommending another god/cult is the best idea.
Heidi has come to us as a worried mother, and asking her to entrust the safety and future of her son to the cult of another god just feels... wrong to me. Especially since many of these gods have... unfavourable relations with the cult of Ranald (and, indeed, with Ranald himself).
Heidi has come to us as a worried mother, and asking her to entrust the safety and future of her son to the cult of another god just feels... wrong to me. Especially since many of these gods have... unfavourable relations with the cult of Ranald (and, indeed, with Ranald himself).
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
It was discussed.
Personally I think Ulric is the best option if we want to steer him to being an Anointed.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
Technically true, although troop movement being slow in winter is something no one really has a counter for. Coastally I think would remain the same as any other season, but neither Norsca nor the Druchii really ever attack in great numbers. They're more about raids than actual wars. Chaos has difficulty launching widescale invasions as well, due to the lack of Daemon-sustaining magic. Orcs have a pretty tough time entering the Empire at all. Beastmen are just as affected by these issues as anyone. The Undead are the least affected, and they've been hit really really hard lately and are unlikely to muster the kind of force to pose a significant threat in the next century or two at least. That or they're Nehekharans and therefore not the Empire's biggest concern generally.
True, that is in-character, but it depends on how Mathilde thinks about it. If she's thinking about "what's best for Mandred" her first choice is inevitably going to be Wizard IMO. Going Priest at all indicates she's thinking at least somewhat politically, and Mathilde is savvy enough to know that Sigmar would be the most political choice and suggest it based on that I think.
- Location
- Utrecht
Sigmar is a voting option, even if it's not likely to win
"RANALD!!!!"
- Location
- Wherever I feel like being
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"RANALD!!!!"
The Four-Fold god would never admit it, not even to his wife and daughters, that he just about jumped out of his skin when that infuriated bellow echoed across the aether. The worst part was that that tiny moment of surprise was all that it took for this particular god to have crossed the distance between them, and grabbed him round the neck. The cat in his hood let out a hiss of annoyance, but even it quieted under the absolute fury that shone in Sigmar's eyes.
"Ghuk- Sigmar. Love-gck-ly to see you. How's the thr-grk." Sigmar's hands tightened, cutting off Ranald's voice. When the other god spoke, it was in a slow timbre that highlighted the blazing fury he was holding at bay.
"Do you have any idea what you've done?!?! Things were already precarious. They were already walking a sword's blade, and now they're dancing on it's edge!" He shook Ranald, paying no mind to the plethora of gems, baubles, coins, cards and daggers that fell from the various folds and pockets of his clothing. "I can't believe I trusted that you were sincere when we shared that toast!" Ranald managed to get one hand on Sigmar's grip, and pry it open just enough to inhale. Both of them knew it was pageantry in the back of their minds, but right now they were almost back to being human in their reactions.
"Sigmar, my friend. My drinking buddy, my boon companion... What the bloodied fuck are you on about?!" In response Sigmar pivoted, turning Ranald in his grip and pointing him in a specific "direction" focusing on a certain point beyond the aether.
"...oh." There was a blank pause. "Would it help if I said that I had nothing to do with this?"
"No."
"Didn't think so."
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
[X] Wizard
- Location
- Finland
Yes, outside something like an everchosen, the odds of emperor personally needing to get involved with leading a war is very unlikely.
They are surrounded by, if not allies, then at least not enemies (and Marienburg), who are unlikely to start a war.
I was mainly thinking in terms of if there was suddenly a war, who could it be with.
Undead would be the most likely answer, followed by orcs and beastmen, and all of them are fairly unlikely.
In the end, empires biggest enemy (other than chaos) is itself, and emperor not being up for fullscale war during winter is unlikely to help nor hinder in that.
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Completely forgot about the Skaven.
Again, unlikely to go to open war, even if they have managed to deal with all the internal crap we learned about.
But they probably don't care much about winter either, what with living underground.
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Ahh I see. In that case I simply disagree with that quote then. Shallya is popular and avoids the Sigmar/Ulric divide. The most obviously problematic part would be Shallya's strictures against combat which could be used against Mandred by making him out to be pacifistic.
Every choice has downsides of course but it still seems to me that Shallya probably cuts off the least amount of options.
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[X] Wizard
You will take my hypothetical second nickel from my cold, dead, hypothetical hands.
You will take my hypothetical second nickel from my cold, dead, hypothetical hands.
CYBORG DRYCHA SALTY RUNBACK LET'S GOOOOOOO!
Waves back at Mathilde
