Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
[x] Plan: Interested Parties
-[x] Bring in the Empress
-[x] Renegotiate with Mira
-[x] Approach Alric directly
 
[x] Plan: Ritual Centre
-[x] Surveil the spa Unfahigers
-[x] Surveil the hunting lodge Unfahigers
-[x] Research: Alberich's life

I continue to not see a point in renegotiating, nor do i see the urgency of bringing in Alric, we have little to nothing to offer him as information so far.
 
[x] Plan: Interested Parties
-[x] Bring in the Empress
-[x] Renegotiate with Mira
-[x] Approach Alric directly

The idea is to bring everyone with a in this stake together. The renegotiate with Mira action is in part something like "Hey Mira, how about we turn this into a common College initiative,
What if her answer is "How about no"? Since you didn't specify the order, there's a 2 in 3 chance that we approach Mira and tell her that we publicly blew the matter up instead of just investigating like we promised before giving her the chance to politically position herself properly.
"look how great cooperation between colleges is! It's great in so many ways. Are you perhaps interested in other ways it's great? "
"Look how well Alric managed to make all these parties cooperate. What a great patriarch. Yay Alric."
 
What an exciting chapter to wake up to. My brain is still kind of jelly (my sleep schedule has been thrown way off), so I'm not grappling with the vote just yet. Instead, proofreading!
The things about rituals is that
things -> thing

(Also, I loved the description of how researching the rituals actually went. It felt very secret agent and very magical at the same time.)
the outside of the creators notes
creators -> creator's
there's very few other members
there's -> there are
Just shy of a decade since that chapter in your life ended
Shouldn't this be a little over a decade? Roswita fired Mathilde on midsummer 2477, and it is currently several months into 2488. Or do you mean "since she left Stirland"?
you've built a new life and now have something much realer than the handful of half-formed hopes you once had. But if something pokes at those memories just wrong they come to life once more, filling you with a nostalgic sadness and bringing all those if-onlys back to life
aw man aw shit aw jeez, this passage is way too fucking real
"I know a fellow or two I've been on the same side of a battle of that might be able to do some digging."
I take it this didn't pan out? I didn't notice Regimand sharing results of any of his investigations, just checking our own work.
 
Voting for this for the moment as it's actions I like. Will probably change it later, after catching up with the thread.

[x] Plan: Interested Parties
 
Something that I've noticed in the past few updates and by referecing previous chapters. It seems like Regimand is far more of an illusion specced Wizard than Mathilde is. His use of Cloak Activity, Illusion, Doppelganger and even the combination between Skywalk and Smoke and Mirrors is impeccable and seems designed to maneuver himself into favorable positions without anyone noticing. From what we've seen, it seems clear his focus is on high mobility and illusions to get the jump on someone and then quick and decisive blows to end the battle. Even the description of his fight with the Tzaangor in the Middle Mountains followed that same formula with the feint followed by the finishing blow. Even Mathilde has shown some degree of struggle with catching Regimand and her Magesight is one of the best in the Old World, coupled with a deep knowledge of her master's abilities.

That is what one should expect from an experienced Wizard whose spent decades honing their skills on a particular specialty. Mathilde has never really chosen a specialty to focus down on. She's always been scattershot, and her success is mostly a testament to how talented, lucky and hard working she is.
 
[X] Plan: Ritual Centre with Mira
[X] Plan: Interested Parties
I think negotiate with Mira is vital going forward. Light wizards are bane of demons and ghosts. So bringing in our own would steal credit or be a ace of fight whatever is coming. Also we can get a book deal for the library.
 
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"Look how well Alric managed to make all these parties cooperate. What a great patriarch. Yay Alric."
I don't think Mira is this incompetent.

If we do dump her our info, she's golden. Alric doesn't know we're here, sure he can assume Mira is probably keeping tabs on him, but nothing like this. She can basically cop Alric out of this. The empire as a whole don't really have their eyes on this yet. If she comes in person, she can basically sweep us under the rug and take the credit for herself, pretty sure this is big enough to gain her a lot of political capital.

Alric doesn't know what we know, what we have is pretty great. Mira can cover us for the whole political aspect.

That said, don't know if Negotiating is even that good even with this.

Also, Surveying both Spa and Hunting means wasting one action. People should really prioritize Spa over Hunting since I still think Lampshade has a point. If Hunting was the target, that's not as much factors compared to Spa.
 
That is what one should expect from an experienced Wizard whose spent decades honing their skills on a particular specialty. Mathilde has never really chosen a specialty to focus down on. She's always been scattershot, and her success is mostly a testament to how talented, lucky and hard working she is.

I believe her specialty is 'world's tallest dwarf'. You can tell by how she is wearing two runic artifacts that would beggar whole kingdoms and are probably about as powerful in combination as most LM's arcane specialties if not more so.
 
I believe her specialty is 'world's tallest dwarf'. You can tell by how she is wearing two runic artifacts that would beggar whole kingdoms and are probably about as powerful in combination as most LM's arcane specialties if not more so.
That's not an ability. That is equipment. You can say her specialty is diplomacy with Dwarves as that's a skill, but equipment is not a skill. I also wouldn't say that that is her specialty.
 
Also, Surveying both Spa and Hunting means wasting one action. People should really prioritize Spa over Hunting since I still think Lampshade has a point. If Hunting was the target, that's not as much factors compared to Spa.
How does it waste an action? If we survey one we don't know whether the centre is with the other group of with the Albric. If we survey both we know for certain where it is. Surveying one provides little actionable info unless the one we pick happens to be the centre and even then it doesn't tell us if the centre is split between both groups. only surveying one is the wasted action, surveying both gives us good actionable intel for stopping the next murder.

On the Interested parties plan my main issue is that while it is great for our official goal of sabotaging Alric it is atrocious for our hidden goal. Essentially we walk up to Alric, and say "Hey, I'm actively sabotaging you and I stole your apprentice after you tried to help me, also I'm bringing in the Empress who I have evidence might be behind the ritual into the investigation but trust me (the person who has repeatedly screwed you) she's not responsible." At that point Alric's only out is if the Empress is behind it as by revealing her he gets sole credit again and we look bad, so we've given him a very good reason to do the exact thing we don't want him to do.
 
.... why are people voting to bring the empress just after magic dad just wondered if she could be the culprit?

Magic dad: is it possible mathy's friend could be involved?

Magic dad:... Nah, she couldn't have found the time to come here, she is not involved.

Mathy: the empress is now involved!
 
That's not an ability. That is equipment. You can say her specialty is diplomacy with Dwarves as that's a skill, but equipment is not a skill. I also wouldn't say that that is her specialty.

Given how stingy dwarfs are with runes it might as well be an ability, it is only though extraordinary and dangerous deeds that we got to the point of holding those relics and they serve us in battle and out of it, allowing us to for instance always ignore the first spell cast by an enemy on Mathilde and be immune to external Dhar. These are not small things nor ones that human made magical items can replicate.
 
.... why are people voting to bring the empress just after magic dad just wondered if she could be the culprit?

Magic dad: is it possible mathy's friend could be involved?

Magic dad:... Nah, she couldn't have found the time to come here, she is not involved.

Mathy: the empress is now involved!
I mean I certainly imagined Matty talking to her magic dad and telling him "I'm bringing the Empress in on this for her political power and because she's my friend and don't want her blindsided by the fallout. You know. Like a Good Friend would do. Unlike you Magic Dad."
 
What if her answer is "How about no"? Since you didn't specify the order, there's a 2 in 3 chance that we approach Mira and tell her that we publicly blew the matter up instead of just investigating like we promised before giving her the chance to politically position herself properly.
I trust Boney to take the plan in the spirit it was written. He reads the thread, so he'd know the context that spawned him. The post also contains some discussion of the intent.

And frankly, if Mira's reaction to a Grey LM telling her there's a serious threat to the stability of the empire and politics has to be set aside, is a flat "no, we will continue politics", then she's even less worthy of the position than Alric. Mathilde is not a subordinate, and she's fully empowered to make calls like that.

And frankly, I don't think it's a real risk anyway. Alric needs a big win to his name. If others help, especially with critical information like "there were only seven murders", then it's unlikely it will be enough, especially since a victory for us is also kind of a victory for Mira, since we're here on her behalf. Heidi is also in a good position to control the narrative afterwards.
.... why are people voting to bring the empress just after magic dad just wondered if she could be the culprit?

Magic dad: is it possible mathy's friend could be involved?

Magic dad:... Nah, she couldn't have found the time to come here, she is not involved.

Mathy: the empress is now involved!
Because someone getting set up for a framing is a great reason to bring them in to counter it?
 
I mean I certainly imagined Matty talking to her magic dad and telling him "I'm bringing the Empress in on this for her political power and because she's my friend and don't want her blindsided by the fallout. You know. Like a Good Friend would do. Unlike you Magic Dad."

its still a shit idea if the goal is :
Your actual objective: Ensure this matter is resolved without revealing the Empress is not a Haupt-Anderssen, and without the Empress being implicated in a Chaos Ritual of Vengeance.

to bring her into 'active involvement' range.

Because someone getting set up for a framing is a great reason to bring them in to counter it?

you know what's better? staying on the other side of the empire for the whole time this shit is happening, instead of coming to when shit hits the fan.

she is not mathy, if she is far away no one will be able to say that she was popping in and out for the killings.
 
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I expect there to be a decent synergy between bringing in Heidi and renegotiating with Mira - Mira will be able to say that this was an assignment from the highest levels to her faction, and thus steal a great deal of Alric's thunder.
 
And if there are no secrets and no artifacts? It would be a bit hard to trace money and I do not think you will be able to persuade the thread to give it up after we steal it.
If they have laundered all their stolen stuff into mere money (unlikely) then we just hand the money back to the Imperial Palace that Dieter robbed and be done with it.

Also have you seen the SV voting base? Giving away vast wealth in grand gestures is what we do.


[X] Plan: Ritual Centre
[X] Plan Info
[X] Plan: Survey & Surcharge
[X] Plan: Narrow it Up
[X] Plan Dig Up Info + Deniable Looting
[X] Plan Dig Up Info

My overwhelming priority is to NOT involve anyone else in this matter. Our actual objective is to keep anyone from learning the Empress isn't who she says she is. Every time we bring someone in or negotiate the odds of that happening increase.
We can deal with this ourselves.
 
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