Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

[X] Plan Measured Support

[x] Plan Steal His Credit, Take His Wizards

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Alternate Support
-[X] Lord Magister Egrimm van Horstmann (1 Favour)
-[X] Lady Magister Elrisse (2 Favours)
-[X] Investigate Alric (2 Favours)
-[X] Permanent access to KAU (1 Favour)

To refresh my memory, I went back to Realms of Sorcery's section on Verspasian Kant, because I remember that it mentions Elrisse. This is literally all it says about her:

"Apprenticed to Master Chanter Elrisse, a senior Magister of the Order, Verspasian quickly learned all the chants and invocations required of him and much more." Page 87

All I got from this was that Elrisse's title in the Light College is "Master Chanter". While she's technically a canon character, she might as well be an OC if Boney were to develop her.

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Egrimm Sus
-[X] Magister Egrimm van Horstmann (free)
-[X] Lady Magister Elrisse (2 Favours)
-[X] Investigate Alric (2 Favours)

Just in case

[x] Plan Steal His Credit, Take His Wizards

I'm willing to go with the sabotage. If it turns out Alric is up to something beneficial, we can probably find a way to let Egrimm do it for his own benefit, and the extra wizard we get is going to be helpful either way.

[x] Plan Steal His Credit, Take His Wizards

[X] Plan Measured Support

The investigating Alric thing is more of a bonus then a cost! It gives us an excuse to do something we already wanted to do.

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Steal His Credit, Take His Wizards

[X] Plan Measured Support

Codex said:

All I got from this was that Elrisse's title in the Light College is "Master Chanter". While she's technically a canon character, she might as well be an OC if Boney were to develop her.

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Actually, this brings me to a question that I want to ask @Boney

How do you approach character creation/development, from a planning perspective? As I see it, there are three scenarios:

1. Completely Original Character: This is Mathilde, Abelhelm, Roswita, Wilhelmina, Heidi, Cython, Qretch etc. Characters that don't appear in canon and you have to make from scratch, although you could probably take inspiration from existing characters.
2. Developed Canon Characters in DL: These are characters with established personalities and stories with existing material being adapted into DL. The end product usually ends up very distinct from canon. This is where Thorgrim Grudgebearer, Belegar Ironhammer and Horstmann fall under (although I think you haven't read the Horstmann novel so it doesn't matter. Good, neither have I).
3. Canon Character, but there's next to no material: This isn't exactly OC territory because there is some level of detail, which varies, given in canon for them, but you still have to expand them in a way that makes sense. Characters like Algard, Kragg, Jovi Sunscryer and Hexensohn. Hell, Snorri and Gotrek fall under this heading because while they're developed canon characters, that is after the tragedy they went through.

I'm curious if you're more of an organic planner where you just write and see where it takes you, or if you plan it out first with personal profiles to understand the character better. My guess is that you have more of an organic vibe, as you seem to focus on a person's desires and wants and how they could achieve it most of all. Personally I'm more of a visual writer where I have to visualise what the character looks like and what their mannerisms would be like first, but I think you said before that you didn't really focus on visualisation much.

[X] Plan Measured Support
-[X] Lord Magister Egrimm van Horstmann (1 Favour)
-[X] Lady Magister Elrisse (2 Favours)
-[X] Investigate Alric (2 Favours)
-[X] Introduction to the Order of Guardians (1 Favour)

[X] Plan Measured Support

[x] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

Ninbefor said:

[ ] Plan More Resources, Less Feud
-[ ] Lady Magister Elrisse (2 Favours)
-[ ] Choirmaster Stephen (2 Favours)
-[ ] Magister Egrimm van Horstmann (free)
-[ ] Investigate Alric (2 Favours)
-[ ] Introduction to the Order of Guardians (1 Favour)
-[ ] Permanent access to KAU (1 Favour)

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[X] Plan More Resources, Less Feud

I want ritualists from both the Light and Jade Orders if possible. People have said things like "the elves probably know about rituals" or "Mathilde will hopefully take a ritual class" or "we can get someone later with the relevant expertise." Sure, maybe; would be happy if that was true but I'm not counting on it.

Mathilde doesn't know anything about rituals, so the assumptions that they can be shunted off to the latter half of the project or that they aren't foundational to Waystones… has no basis, either for it or against it.

So, since Light and Jade secrets draw from different sources and bodies of knowledge, it wouldn't be surprising if Light and Jade rituals are similarly different and might yield contrasting insights. With no indication Elrisse has any ritual knowledge whatsoever, no idea if the Jade recruitment + favors will go well, and AP hell leaving Mathilde's chances of taking a ritual class uncertain, having one nonreciprocal library arrangement doesn't bother me to cover this gap in our knowledge.

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support

[X] Plan Measured Support
-[X] Lord Magister Egrimm van Horstmann (1 Favour)
-[X] Lady Magister Elrisse (2 Favours)
-[X] Investigate Alric (2 Favours)
-[X] Introduction to the Order of Guardians (1 Favour)