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Hmm. So we can't grab a wind with Ulgu and twist it into the shape of a spell. But Ulgu does affect other winds - it repels them. Runes can do this as well. What if we let the other wind escape, but using a specific route to do so? Could we manipulate a wind without 'grabbing' it?
Please just assume the Mathilde did everything obvious and let it die.
 
Only if we're caught, of course...
If listing to a podcast about the history of the worlds biggest crime kingpins has thaught me anything, it's that no matter how much of a hot shit you think you are, you will be caught eventually. And remember, no one we like will be on our side.
 
No, because the winds as winds to not have the density to actually affect anything.

Powerstones? Potentially arrays of powerstones from different Winds that effect how other Winds flow and they blow through the array?

If listing to a podcast about the history of the worlds biggest crime kingpins has thaught me anything, it's that no matter how much of a hot shit you think you are, you will be caught eventually. And remember, no one we like will be on our side.

Well, of course. That's because you only ever here about the ones that were caught. This is just an example of selection bias.
 
@BoneyM what's the source for the canonical answer?

Quest canon.

Hmm. So we can't grab a wind with Ulgu and twist it into the shape of a spell. But Ulgu does affect other winds - it repels them. Runes can do this as well. What if we let the other wind escape, but using a specific route to do so? Could we manipulate a wind without 'grabbing' it?

It would be like trying to write a book by dipping a cat's tail in ink, putting it atop a piece of paper, and then yelling at it from a specific angle.
 
Why would we need to explain it? It would be something Mathilde would be using when alone without other wizards who could cast the relevant spells. It's not something to teach, it's something to use over the course of her potentially very long life. Personal power is itself a great way of solving problems. Not all discoveries need to be about changing the world or how Magisters in general perform magic.

Because the assumption would be 'guilty until proven innocent' if we claim to have been able to do something without making Dhar that no one else has been able to do. We would have t prove that the whole process was Dhar free or out come the torches.
 
Man, I am so tempted to vote for Cython and the We. Both would be terrible in that they aren't dwarves though, which is sad. If we had 4 choices, I would definitely be pushing for it. With the 3 we have though, maybe the We could still be a worthwhile introduction. Expand Eike's horizon, while also being a look behind the curtains on weird places Profit could be found.
 
So remind me, what was the idea with Tongs? Just that me might be able to do magic using winds other than Ulgu by manipulating Ulgu?
 
Man, even if it had worked how would you even go about spending the years to learn how to manipulate the other wind into a spell?
 
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Francesco, Soizic, and the Undumgi
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
 
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[X] Belegar Ironhammer
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
[X] Dreng, Clan Huzkul, and the Cult of Grimnir
 
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Well, of course. That's because you only ever here about the ones that were caught. This is just an example of selection bias.
Caught does not exclusively mean legal authorities. It also includes death by rivals or exile to escape said fate. In our case any continued attempt to mix magic endangers every thing Mathilde has built for herself. Mixed magic is not happening. Deal with it.
 
Makes sense. In order to combine multiple winds without making Dhar, you need high magic, and that probably requires active fine manipulation of multiple winds which is impossible for a Human Wizard.

There's only two forms of multiwind magic and Dhar is the chaotic default; probably a bit like taking a bunch of dyes and tossing them into a mixer. You get a color but is outcome is random and ugly. High magic then is weaving a tapestry from dyed threads.

Eike should definetly meet Belegar. Other then that, I think the engineering guild is a good choice, as that'll be a big source of future trade. The third pick is flexible: maybe halflings? Combined with Mat + Pan that'd also get her exposure to homosexuality which is good, if your want her to not be a biggot. Food for thought.
 
[x] Belegar Ironhammer
[x] Gotri, the K8P Air Corps, and the Cult of Morgrim
[x] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings
 
I think the next step for tongs is the study and understanding of Divine Magic. Because they can do it. Meddling with Dhar doesn't end well, but at the same time, Dhar is not just the substance of Chaos and evil magic, it's also the stuff Gods and the Aether are made from. Souls too, probably, unless one thinks each souls is single wind aligned. I'll bet you that's the trick, as it is with regular magic. Souls and gods are the stable, non-corupptive version of Dhar.

If you want to channel godly magic, you have to align your soul to your God. So if you want to channel multi-wind magic, you can only do one that matches your own soul. It's how the gods do it, as noted by Kragg: That the power of a God, before use, is no different then the God itself.
 
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