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I too often think that Rhunrikki and DL would make a hella cool crossover.

To be fair to Kragg, the sword is actually really good. His Master Rune is a fireless MConduction from Rhunrikki Strollaz, which is damn good, the magic item turnoff is a variant from Thorek's rune but manages to be as effective as a Master Rune without needing to be one, which is damn smart, and Unknown is just plain exotic.

A truly great craftsman is able to take limited materials/knowledge/time/tools and make the absolute best they can out of it.

Which is why Humans getting called shoddy annoys me! Our inventors and craftsman don't have time to test their creations for decades before using them! nor do they have the time to spend 3 years on a single step of the crafting process! humans don't live that long normally!
 
[X] Magister Egrimm van Horstmann


Become involved with:
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
- With the Knights of Taal's Fury


Other:
[X] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
- Will only be necessary during the roughest patches
[X] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
- Where the Winds blowing from the north descend to ground level, which is only know to happen in mountainous terrain: here, the Mountains of Mourne, the Goromadny Mountains, and nothern Norsca.
 
You know, it's funny how potions are super underwhelming in quest because of a misprint. IIRC, they are supposed to last a number of seasons instead of a number of months.
You remember correctly. It was meant to be seasons.

Honestly, I unironically approve of this.

LM's may not be required to tithe but, IIRC, we can absolutely continue to do so anyways. Especially with as much wealth as Mathilde tends to comes by.

Because clearly, Mathilde's vow of poverty is in Dwarven standards. :V
If we're donating money, I'd much rather donate it to the Cult of Shallya.

Guys i have a shocking and upsetting idea. I think Magister Horstmann might be a traitor. I know i know, it's disturbing to consider, but the idea is that the Lord of Change knew enough to sabotage caches the expedition only placed a few days or hours before.

I know it's likely that a LoC could have divined those locations, but lets be honest, would it without any prompt?
Horstmann's a light wizard vouched for by the Patriarch of the Light College himself and when he was expressing worry that one of his apprentices may've been corrupted, the Grey Magister Lord he was speaking to detected no deceit. The dude's clean. Literally every other one of the other new wizards is more likely to be a traitor.
 
I too often think that Rhunrikki and DL would make a hella cool crossover.

To be fair to Kragg, the sword is actually really good. His Master Rune is a fireless MConduction from Rhunrikki Strollaz, which is damn good, the magic item turnoff is a variant from Thorek's rune but manages to be as effective as a Master Rune without needing to be one, which is damn smart, and Unknown is just plain exotic.
I think it'd be less about the effects as such and more about the sort of stuff only a Runelord could see or care about. Minor imperfections in the runes that have absolutely no actual impact, "20% less efficient use of energy than if you'd done it the proper way", that sort of thing. That's my thinking anyway.
 
Absurd. I trust Horstmann more than I trust Mathilde. :V



By Golden Age standards? I expect Snorri would call Kragg's Master Rune a shoddy and half-formed knockoff, the Rune of Superior Skill a shockingly incompetent and unreliable piece of work, and call the Rune of the Unknown an interesting idea that utterly failed to be developed to even a modicum of its potential.
Of course he would! Why, any five hundred year old smith worth his beard could do at least this much!

But he'd probably be impressed someone did so much with so little. Just on the inside.

It was a late edit, but while I could see killier, I struggle to see a straight upgrade that keeps all functions.
I think it'd be less about the effects as such and more about the sort of stuff only a Runelord could see or care about. Minor imperfections in the runes that have absolutely no actual impact, "20% less efficient use of energy than if you'd done it the proper way", that sort of thing. That's my thinking anyway.
Very likely, yeah.
 
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I'm always slightly amused by the idea of a crossover between the two quests, simply because of the different timescales. I can imagine Snorri showing up and immedately disappearing for twenty DL turns inside of his workshop.
 
[X] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent- Will only be necessary during the roughest patches
[X] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
- With the Knights of Taal's Fury
[X] Scouting near the convoy
- With the Winter Wolves

Boney has explicitly noted this is an exceptionally vulnerable time for the caravan. Doubling down on scouting/Mathilding is strictly the most reasonable idea imo.
We the Thread invested actions into developing Rite of Way; it's strictly an actuonsink until we start using and getting value out of it.


[X] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
- Where the Winds blowing from the north descend to ground level, which is only know to happen in mountainous terrain: here, the Mountains of Mourne, the Goromadny Mountains, and nothern Norsca.

Considering we just massively foiled a Chaos plot at Karak Vlag? Not investigating the Winds phenomenon with the PoI seems like an exceptionally poor decision.
 
A truly great craftsman is able to take limited materials/knowledge/time/tools and make the absolute best they can out of it.

Which is why Humans getting called shoddy annoys me! Our inventors and craftsman don't have time to test their creations for decades before using them! nor do they have the time to spend 3 years on a single step of the crafting process! humans don't live that long normally!
"Just because you have a reason for being shoddy that doesn't make your work any less shoddy."/dwarf
 
Always love negaverse omakes, and imagine this when they meet the We and see the doom tower. Would be amazing.
I think the We would be one of the least surprising things to him, given the integrated griffon population of his Kraka Drakk non-dwarf cohabitation is perfectly viable. The Eye would be a lot more remarkable (by the standards of a >1000-year old dwarf specializing in exotic things), though.
 
gotta ask Boney M why do the kislevties name their currency ducats instead of the more russian ruble? I thought that would be more tilean or marienburg's thing.

No idea, that's the canonical name for them even though Russia's used rubles since the days of hacksilver. The Polish zloty and the Lithuanian auksinas just mean 'gold' so it's not from them. A possible explanation I found is that Russia apparently minted large quantities of counterfeit ducats in the 1700s and 1800s which are sometimes called 'Russian ducats'. The silver coins are denga and the coppers pulo, which seems more fitting. Tilea doesn't have unified currency and Marienburg still uses crowns.
 
"Have any Wizards taken a look at it?"

"That Elgi Zhufi and some of his Umgi students, shortly after it disappeared."

You blink. "Teclis?"

"Aye. Said there wasn't a trace of whatever had caused it."
It's several updates after the fact, but I did a recent rereading, and I couldn't ignore it when I realized it.

Mathilde's good enough at magic for the dwarves to call her zhufokri. Teclis? Not so much.
 
[X] Scout the lands of the Iron Wolves
[X] Use Rite of Way to ease the ascent
[X] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling

No other opinions.
 
I'm always slightly amused by the idea of a crossover between the two quests, simply because of the different timescales. I can imagine Snorri showing up and immedately disappearing for twenty DL turns inside of his workshop.
But by the end of those 20 turns every dwarf would have a rune weapon and protective talisman.
 
Management reminds you that this is a Negaverse Omake and you should not actually vote here, just in case you mistook me for the OP.
[ ] Investigate just how far Thungni's art has fallen.
[ ] Get the lay of the land. What are these urk and grobi and thaggoraki to be spoken of with such hatred? What is the current military, economic, and political situation? Not to put too fine a point on it, what in the Ancestors' names is going on here!
[ ] Analyse your arrival point as quickly and efficiently as you can. If there are traces to be found, they'll likely fade with time.
[ ] Something else?

[] Get the lay of the land. What are these urk and grobi and thaggoraki to be spoken of with such hatred? What is the current military, economic, and political situation? Not to put too fine a point on it, what in the Ancestors' names is going on here!

Disappointed the whole "rescued Vlag from Chaos" thing hasn't happened yet in quest, but that's understandable considering that expedition hasn't finished yet. I look forward to this actual, for real, definitely 100% happening double spin-off crossover quest.
 
As far as the crossover negaverse goes, I want to see Belegar and Kragg's reactions to Mathilde pulling a Golden Age Runelord straight out of her ass. (There is a 110% chance that she would be blamed for this event, and you know it.)
Kragg: This is because of that lecture I gave her about her power not being under her control, isn't it. She needed someone around who could lecture me.
 
The College generally assumed she was up for the task in Stirland instead of keeping an eye on her to be sure she didn't embarrass them, gave her the benefit of the doubt in the first Bursar incidents, and she had an easier time being cleared for learning new spells than she otherwise would have.
Do you have something in mind for why she had such a reputation that could buy her this leeway? In-story I mean.
Clanless don't live in Dwarfholds, outside of Slayers and Priests of Gazul. He'd likely live somewhere in Ostermark.
All Clanless are Expats? I completely missed that. I thought that those two were different categories that just frequently overlap and that most Holds have something akin to a Clanless underclass that isn't trusted with anything "serious", doesn't have a say in anything and doesn't have a Clan's support when they fall on hard times or need someone to vouch for the for anything ever.

Also in the past you've given comments on how Clanless still get an adequate (for a human) education in most Holds and how their lot in general varies from Hold to Hold. Gotrek himself is still an active member of Zhufbar's (or was it Kadrin?) Engineering Guild because he' just that good.

This seems like a surprising shift to me and I don't know if it is due to my own failure to read and pay attention or duw to some other reason.
I'll put it in my list of questions for after the expedition has ended.
This feels like something Quest players like to do, but in this case there's not much point. Mathilde isn't spending her money on hookers and blow, she's using it to buy magical artefacts for study, which will benefit the College.

Honestly, if you asked me what the Grey College's response would be to unasked-for tithing, my first guess would be "suspicion". What's she trying to draw attention away from?
I disagree. The College lives off of tithes and many of the people who actually do tithe might well be taking the Vow of Poverty at least a bit seriously, to the point where they live like lower moddle class. And Mathilde seems to routinely have heavy windfalls of money for whatever reason. So our tithes might well make a noticeable difference.
 
Wait hold on... something just occurred to me!

we are now legally acknowledged as having the soul of a dwarf...

Does... Does that mean that we can put Capital G Grudges in The Book?
 
[x] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[x] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
[x] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
[x] Magister Egrimm van Horstmann
[x] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
[x] Scouting near the convoy
[x] Investigate the 'Windfall' with the Light Wizards
 
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