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[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness, additional actions apply bonus to roll. Gain reputation and +2 bonus per action to Recruitment Dice. You formed these Hearthguard to combat all the ills that befall the dwarfen people. Send them out, render aid, earn goodwill and spread the word of your retainers and their stated mission beyond the borders of Kraka Drakk.
--[X] Eagle-Eyed: Gain 40 Favour +? with Kraka Ornsmotek. There is now a consistent presence of tunnel gnubblers within the mines of Ornsmotek. 1 Retainer Action.
-[X] Dronril, Dronwut: [Cost 6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
--[X] Craftsdwarf Expertise: [Cost: 15 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken 4 times and without actions. Ask the Masters, and set them loose on what parts of the work they can. Take 4 times.
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. 3 Actions.
--[X] Brotherhood Expertise: [Cost 10 favour from Brotherhood of Dron] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken multiple times and without actions. Call upon the expertise of the Brotherhood to aid in your research. Spend 50 Brotherhood Favor.
-[X] [Difficult] A Princely Wedding Gift Pt.1:

--[X] Accept
-[X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: A Princess's Strong Arm and Stout Legs. A terrible business that must be ended and made right to the best of your abilities. Give Orra arms and legs of Adamant, with Hearthstones socketed into her shoulder and shins and bands of Pure Gromril engraved with her lineage.
--[X] Choose: On the arm the Master Rune of Waking, Rune of Stone and Rune of Forged Limb. On the legs, each bears a Rune of Forged Limb. The left leg also bears a Rune of Fortitude and a Rune of Vitality. The right also bears a Rune of the Valiant and Rune of Warding. Every rune associated with Valaya is engraved on a Hearthstone. You'll come back for her eye later. 1 Action.
-[X] Accept
-[X] Order: T4 Troll Heart.
-[X] Kingly Expedite: Spend enough Kraka Drakk favor to get it by end of turn 34.


Vote's Open!

[X] Fire Keeper: Ylva Hearth Hands

And put her in too.

E: Ended up editing the legs. And an arm and the orders.
 
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[X] Plan Chain and Zhufazul
-[X] Fire Keeper: Ylva Hearth Hands
-[X] Khazid: Accept
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times.
-[X] Hold Founding: [Cost: 1 action, 1 retainer action] Locked in until end of turn 40.
--[X] Eagle-Eyed: Gain 40 Favour +? with Kraka Ornsmotek. 1 retainer action
-[X] Zhufazul: [Cost: (4 -3) =1 actions] Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. 1 action
-[X]The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] 3 actions
-[X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: [Cost: 1 action] Due end of Turn 37.
--[X] Accept
-[X] Dronril, Dronwut: [Cost 6 actions]Student of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
--[X] Craftsdwarf Expertise: [Cost: 15 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken 4 times and without actions. 60 favor
 
[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand

[X] Fire Keeper: Kazrik Straightbeard
[X] Khazid: Accept

I like having a lawyer a hobbyist Reckoner as our Hearthguard's champion. It would be cool to have his perspective for the various things we do for the rest of the Quest.
 
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[X] Plan Purity's Secrets
- [X] Recruitment Drive: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Gain 1d5 +5 bonus dice per action to Recruitment Dice (1d10 +5). You have retainers, dwarfs who understand what it takes to become part of your Hearthguard, send them out to see if they can lend their expertise more and skill to improve the growth of your retinue. 1 retainer action
- [X] Understand a Master Rune: [Cost: Variable with a max of 16 actions] Student of the Odd and/or Soul of the Earth may proc. The same idea as studying any rune in theory, in practice it takes a lot longer and there's often a large chance of explosions. The action cost is dependent on a variety of factors, but the amount of similar Master Runes you know, your specialties, and even if you made the Rune being worked on can reduce the cost. Purification, 3 actions
- [X] [Difficult] A Princely Wedding Gift Pt.1: [Cost: 1 action] Due end of Turn 36. If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. Apply optional Rune Ingredients here. Gain 100 Favour with Kraka Ravnsvake. Snorri thinks another patron might be found by end of turn 34. King Villi has come to you asking if you would make a wedding gift that he could offer Prince Gimli on the day he weds the King's daughter. King Villi trusts that your relationship with Clan Ironarm is such that you know what to best make for them, but he would prefer something that Gimli will carry with him when he eventually takes up the panoply of his father and grandfather as their equipment has become the royal arms of Kraka Drakk's monarch and heir. In other words, anything but a suit of [Armour] or a [Banner] is preferable. 1 action
-- [X] Accept
-- [X] Choose: A Pure Gromril bearded axe with MR Currents, Rune of Cold and Rune of Fury.
- [X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: [Cost: 1 action] Due end of Turn 37. If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. Apply optional Rune Ingredients here. Gain 80 Favour with Kraka Drakk and 1 Standing and 80 Favour +??? with Karak Ungor. No one else can do this. Of their own initiatives, King Buradarr, Otrek and Prince Gloin have come to you seeking your expertise with Runic Limbs. For a Magma Wyrm has assaulted the mines of Karak Ungor just when the royal family was present to commemorate the opening of a promising new seam of Gold. The King is injured, his heir Durabarr slain, and Gloin's sister and Durabarr's wife, Orra, was crippled horribly by the attack. Both legs and one arm are gone and a jagged scar now runs down the side of the princess's face, blinding her in one eye. OOC NOTE. This is only an opportunity to customize and have greater control over the contents of this commission. Snorri will do this regardless and do so to the best of his ability. Rewards listed save the ??? will be applied regardless as well.
-- [X] Accept


[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand
 
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[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand

[X] Fire Keeper: Kazrik Straightbeard
[X] Khazid: Accept
 
I kinda wanna go plus ultra on this Orra commission, see if Snorri can actually make a regeneration Chamber/ Sarcophagus.

The kings would be actually gobsmacked if we restored Orra's flesh. I believe we have all the tools and knowledge to achieve this, we just have to spend the time/adamant building the chamber and rune combos.
 
[X] Plan Research and A Daughter's Hand
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness, additional actions apply bonus to roll. Gain reputation and +2 bonus per action to Recruitment Dice. You formed these Hearthguard to combat all the ills that befall the dwarfen people. Send them out, render aid, earn goodwill and spread the word of your retainers and their stated mission beyond the borders of Kraka Drakk.
--[X] Eagle-Eyed: Gain 40 Favour +? with Kraka Ornsmotek. There is now a consistent presence of tunnel gnubblers within the mines of Ornsmotek. 1 Retainer Action.
-[X] Zhufazul: [Cost: (4 -3) =1 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc 1 action
-[X] Dronril, Dronwut: [Cost 6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. 2 actions
--[X] Craftsdwarf Expertise: [Cost: 15 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken 4 times and without actions. Ask the Masters, and set them loose on what parts of the work they can. Take 4 times.
-[X] [Difficult] A Princely Wedding Gift Pt.1:
--[X] Accept
-[X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: A Princess's Strong Arm and Stout Legs. A terrible business that must be ended and made right to the best of your abilities. Give Orra arms and legs of Adamant, with Hearthstones socketed into her shoulder and shins and bands of Pure Gromril engraved with her lineage.
--[X] Choose: On the arm the Master Rune of Unyielding, Rune of Valaya and Rune of Forged Limb. On the legs, each bears a Rune of Forged Limb and two Runes of Speed. You'll come back for her eye later. 1 Action.
--[X] Accept

[X] Khazid: Accept
 
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Remember also, don't put your Fire Keeper and Khazid votes into the plan, those are meant to be kept separate.
 
[ ] ORDER: Frurndar preserved corpses from the East. Given how your Forged Limbs are related to the biology of what they are replacing you would ask for some Frurndar corpses for you to commit autopsies for your research.

soulcake, Is this order allowed?
Trying to import Dawi corpses, robbing them of their place in the Underearth, just to cut them open?
 
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[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand


[X] Fire Keeper: Kazrik Straightbeard
[X] Khazid: Accept

I wonder if we can train Kazrik into becoming a formal Reckoner.
 
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[X] Chain, Limbs, and Gifts.
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. 3 Actions .
-[X] Dronril, Dronwut: [Cost 6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
- [X] Craftsdwarf Expertise: [Cost: 15 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken 4 times and without actions. 60 Favor.
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness, additional actions apply bonus to roll. Gain reputation and +2 bonus per action to Recruitment Dice.
- [X] Eagle-Eyed: Gain 40 Favour +? with Kraka Ornsmotek. 1 Action.
-[X] [Difficult] A Princely Wedding Gift Pt.1: [Cost: 1 action] Due end of Turn 36. If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. Apply optional Rune Ingredients here. Gain 100 Favour with Kraka Ravnsvake.
- [X] Accept
-[X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: [Cost: 1 action] Due end of Turn 37. If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. Apply optional Rune Ingredients here. Gain 80 Favour with Kraka Drakk and 1 Standing and 80 Favour +??? with Karak Ungor. No one else can do this. 1 action
- [X] Accept
- [X]Well made limbs of Gromril decorated with gold inlay. A hearthstone is placed on the forearm inscribed with the rune of Valaya. ( Rune of forged limb, Rune of Valaya, Rune of warding.) The legs follow the same pattern. (Rune of forged limb, Rune of fortitude, Rune of might.) (Rune of forged limb, Rune of fortitude, Rune of speed.)

[X] Khazid: Accept
Allow the families of your Hearthwardens to settle the hills and lands near and around your workshop.
[X] Fire Keeper: Norgrim Snowbeard.
Gain: ++Search and Rescue, +Monster Hunting
 
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[ ] Fire Keeper: Kazrik Straightbeard
Gain: ++Informal but sound Legal and Moral Advice, +Infrastructure Repair

Could be a great addition if we leverage the group in Kadrin once the civil war is resolved. This would synergize well with what Drakk is working towards as well.
 
[X] Fire Keeper: Norgrim Snowbeard.
[X] Khazid: Accept

[X] Chain, Limbs, and Gifts.

[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand
 
Remember also, don't put your Fire Keeper and Khazid votes into the plan, those are meant to be kept separate.
Bungie about the runes for the princess should we put any special ingredient for the runes like a using elder thundertusk horn for MR unyielding or the pegasus heart for the runes of speed maybe we can order special ingredients and use favor to get them next turn.

[X] Fire Keeper: Norgrim Snowbeard.
[X] Khazid: Accept
 
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Can we go back for the eye later? Because that's kinda a huge deal and being able to give her a runic eyesight replacement is something I definitely want to be able to do.
 
[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness, additional actions apply bonus to roll. Gain reputation and +2 bonus per action to Recruitment Dice. You formed these Hearthguard to combat all the ills that befall the dwarfen people. Send them out, render aid, earn goodwill and spread the word of your retainers and their stated mission beyond the borders of Kraka Drakk.
--[X] Eagle-Eyed: Gain 40 Favour +? with Kraka Ornsmotek. There is now a consistent presence of tunnel gnubblers within the mines of Ornsmotek. 1 Retainer Action.
-[X] Dronril, Dronwut: [Cost 6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
--[X] Craftsdwarf Expertise: [Cost: 15 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken 4 times and without actions. Ask the Masters, and set them loose on what parts of the work they can. Take 4 times.
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. 3 Actions.
--[X] Brotherhood Expertise: [Cost 10 favour from Brotherhood of Dron] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken multiple times and without actions. Call upon the expertise of the Brotherhood to aid in your research. Spend 50 Brotherhood Favor.
-[X] [Difficult] A Princely Wedding Gift Pt.1:

--[X] Accept
-[X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: A Princess's Strong Arm and Stout Legs. A terrible business that must be ended and made right to the best of your abilities. Give Orra arms and legs of Adamant, with Hearthstones socketed into her shoulder and shins and bands of Pure Gromril engraved with her lineage.
--[X] Choose: On the arm the Master Rune of Unyielding, Rune of Valaya and Rune of Forged Limb. On the legs, each bears a Rune of Forged Limb and two Runes of Speed. You'll come back for her eye later. 1 Action.
-[X] Accept

[X] Fire Keeper: Ylva Hearth Hands

[X] Khazid: Accept
 
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[X] Plan Chain and A Daughter's Hand
-[X] Render Aid: [Cost: 1 retainer action] Can be taken multiple times. Roll for usefulness, additional actions apply bonus to roll. Gain reputation and +2 bonus per action to Recruitment Dice. You formed these Hearthguard to combat all the ills that befall the dwarfen people. Send them out, render aid, earn goodwill and spread the word of your retainers and their stated mission beyond the borders of Kraka Drakk.
--[X] Eagle-Eyed: Gain 40 Favour +? with Kraka Ornsmotek. There is now a consistent presence of tunnel gnubblers within the mines of Ornsmotek. 1 Retainer Action.
-[X] Dronril, Dronwut: [Cost 6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc.
--[X] Craftsdwarf Expertise: [Cost: 15 Favour from Kraka Drakk] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken 4 times and without actions. Ask the Masters, and set them loose on what parts of the work they can. Take 4 times.
-[X] The Rune Metal Pt. 1b: [Cost: (8 -2) =6 actions] Journeyman of the Odd and Soul of the Earth will proc. 3 Actions.
--[X] Brotherhood Expertise: [Cost 10 favour from Brotherhood of Dron] Gain 1 progress. Can be taken multiple times and without actions. Call upon the expertise of the Brotherhood to aid in your research. Spend 50 Brotherhood Favor.
-[X] [Difficult] A Princely Wedding Gift Pt.1:

--[X] Accept
-[X] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: A Princess's Strong Arm and Stout Legs. A terrible business that must be ended and made right to the best of your abilities. Give Orra arms and legs of Adamant, with Hearthstones socketed into her shoulder and shins and bands of Pure Gromril engraved with her lineage.
--[X] Choose: On the arm the Master Rune of Unyielding, Rune of Valaya and Rune of Forged Limb. On the legs, each bears a Rune of Forged Limb and two Runes of Speed. You'll come back for her eye later. 1 Action.
-[X] Accept

[X] Fire Keeper: Kazrik Straightbeard
 
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Bungie about the runes for the princess shoul dwe put any special ingredient for the runes like a using elder thundertusk horn for MR unyielding or the pegasus heart for the runes of speed maybe we can order special ingredients and use favor to get them next turn.
I don't think so? Especially since we're using Hearthstones in the design the way I have it set up. Thundertusk is a cold oriented upgrade, which is divergent from the hearthstones, and pegasus hearts while something I considered, I do actually want to save one for the Hearthguard and one for Gimli. There were ideas bounced around for giving him something with Wandering on it.

And I can't think of anything else to order that we'd be able to get fast enough. T3 or T4 stuff would come too late, and no T2's really stick out.


Can we go back for the eye later? Because that's kinda a huge deal and being able to give her a runic eyesight replacement is something I definitely want to be able to do.
Yeah, we can always just make a write in difficult commission for it like we did the Grimnir gronti.

They're not gonna be offended if we take time out of our life to make it without a commission.
 
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I don't think so? Especially since we're using Hearthstones in the design the way I have it set up. Thundertusk is a cold oriented upgrade, which is divergent from the hearthstones, and pegasus hearts while something I considered, I do actually want to save one for the Hearthguard and one for Gimli. There were ideas bounced around for giving him something with Wandering on it.

And I can't think of anything else to order that we'd be able to get fast enough. T3 or T4 stuff would come too late, and no T2's really stick out.
Fair we can use the Pegasus hearts though Just order one hell order A T4 pegasus heart to use for the planned Travelling banner that would take three turns without favor which is fine since we wont be able make that for a while yet with all the request.

Although maybe we can order T4 stonehorns for MR Unyielding we have lots of favor with Kraka Drakk so using that to get it next turn without a problem and considering the mystery reward i feel like splurging for the limbs wouldnt be a bad idea since were already using adamant and it would be a waste not to take advantage of that.
 
Fair we can use the Pegasus hearts though Just order one hell order A T4 pegasus heart to use for the planned Travelling banner that would take three turns without favor which is fine since we wont be able make that for a while yet with all the request.

Although maybe we can order T4 stonehorns for MR Unyielding we have lots of favor with Kraka Drakk so using that to get it next turn without a problem and considering the mystery reward i feel like splurging for the limbs wouldnt be a bad idea since were already using adamant and it would be a waste not to take advantage of that.
The problem is that we wouldn't get the horns till the end of turn 35, meaning we'd have to make the prosthetics turn 36 which is both kind of ooof as a delay and means we'd be cramping our other stuff even further. I'm not sure other folks would go for that, which is why I haven't ordered any ingredients.

We only have two Pegasus hearts on hand right now, and doing only one leg seems lopsided to me, and further it has the same issue of pushing it back to getting the thing end of turn 35, meaning we'd be making Gimli's commission on turn 36.

Though you do make a point about the T4 Pegasus heart as a standard unmodified order.
 
[ ] [Difficult] Triage Pt.1: [Cost: 1 action] Due end of Turn 37. If a rune you want requires special ingredients that you don't have access to I will alert you. Apply optional Rune Ingredients here. Gain 80 Favour with Kraka Drakk and 1 Standing and 80 Favour +??? with Karak Ungor. No one else can do this. Of their own initiatives, King Buradarr, Otrek and Prince Gloin have come to you seeking your expertise with Runic Limbs. For a Magma Wyrm has assaulted the mines of Karak Ungor just when the royal family was present to commemorate the opening of a promising new seam of Gold. The King is injured, his heir Durabarr slain, and Gloin's sister and Durabarr's wife, Orra, was crippled horribly by the attack. Both legs and one arm are gone and a jagged scar now runs down the side of the princess's face, blinding her in one eye. OOC NOTE. This is only an opportunity to customize and have greater control over the contents of this commission. Snorri will do this regardless and do so to the best of his ability. Rewards listed save the ??? will be applied regardless as well.
- [ ] Accept
If it wasn't for this I would be putting up a plan for language learning right now.
 
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