Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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We should definitely try to disconnect Vlag, because otherwise the Gribblies will continue to feed. The magic accumulating somewhere else is also bad, but not as bad as being directly fed into an ongoing effect like this. Optimally, we'd reroute it (or rather, get some Ice Witches to come up and handle it), so it goes around Vlag, but I don't know if either Mathilde or the Ice Witches have the necessary expertise.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
And this, folks, is why you make sure to be in a romantic relationship before charging into the Chaos Wastes. No falling for temptation when you know it'd make your spouse sad.
Maybe we should've romanced Cython before heading out, just to have an extra lifeline...
It is worth remembering that "exessive skill" is within Slaneesh's purview. Followers of the Tempter are not only insanely fast, they tend to be stupidly good at whatever it is they're doing as well. Which is really unfortunate when what they're doing is cutting your body into pretty ribbons.
Unlikely. Teclis doing stuff is extremely high level politics. You can't do stuff simply because of personal feelings at that level.
It's very firmly on the "Not going to happen" list, but the idea of some Slann somewhere reading Mathilde's paper on it and going, "Hang on. The Great Plan says that mountain isn't supposed to be in the warp at all!" makes me laugh.
If this is plausible to pull off, it might be the best bet. There would inevtiably be a pretty huge reaction from the daemon forces to kill everyone before they ran out of magic and dissolve, but if there's any good time to have that battle, it's when we have an army, a dragon, and a bunch of Dawi to fortify a location that the enemy has to attack. My biggest concern is that it's simply not plausible; even if we remove the magic source, it won't meaningfully impede the deamons on a relevant time scale. We'll have to see what BoneyM says, but my gut feeling is that it won't be this simple.
I would love to be wrong, though.
Edit: BoneyM answered while I was typing. It's plausible but would take days. I doubt we can stop the expedition that long, but it's a viable siege strategy to pursue later. Alternatively, Mathilde just cuts the Dum waystone off at the source.
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- Sweden
Now I'm pretty sure this name only exists in 40k, and then only because the Eldar literally can't say he/she/it's name without their souls being eaten. Interesting stuff about Vlag regardless.
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- Canada
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- He/Him
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- Earth
There is maybe one thing we could do. We're going to a lost hold. To aid or bury. Are there any Dwarven Priests of Gazul around?
[X] Consider the possibility that this hidden door is hidden not only from mortal but the divine. Ask for Dwarven Priests to pray to their Gods at the gates, tell them of what happened here. Consider throwing a prayer Gazul's way as well. Buried things and tombs as well as Aether realms are his job.
The trouble with that is that Gazul connecting to this thing might just jeportize the Underearth, but we should def get dwarven Priests if any are in the Expedition to say a prayer for any fallen/trapped.
[X] Consider the possibility that this hidden door is hidden not only from mortal but the divine. Ask for Dwarven Priests to pray to their Gods at the gates, tell them of what happened here. Consider throwing a prayer Gazul's way as well. Buried things and tombs as well as Aether realms are his job.
The trouble with that is that Gazul connecting to this thing might just jeportize the Underearth, but we should def get dwarven Priests if any are in the Expedition to say a prayer for any fallen/trapped.
I think he just said we would only need to hold for a few days until they disolve, the greater demons would prob only be a day at most
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- Before the Ninth Gate
We can go and see if its in the shadow realm.
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- Earth
I don't think we have dwarven priests with the expedition.
It's a natural enough title for Slaanesh to be reached independently, the phrase 'My Thirst for you shall never be sated' is in the Liber Chaotica.
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- He/Him
So far I've heard check out the Shadow Realm and plug up the northern Waystone temporarily. Both are cool.
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- Sweden
This is fair.
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- Canada
Don't think there's much we can or even should do without an army at our back, and a lot of study. If we mess with the waystone and associated spell, we might lock Vlag permanently into the warp, same if we shut down the dum waystone. Any action should only be taken once we have studied this enough that we have an idea of what it will do, rather than poking it blindly.
Also, if we do anything that requires us to stick around here to work our magic, it would give the slaneshi time to assemble a proper response force to us, and attack a second time. And given this leads directly to the warp, that could end with multiple greater demons attacking us. Even with a dragon that's not good odds for us.
Also, if we do anything that requires us to stick around here to work our magic, it would give the slaneshi time to assemble a proper response force to us, and attack a second time. And given this leads directly to the warp, that could end with multiple greater demons attacking us. Even with a dragon that's not good odds for us.
I don't think the familiar connection reaches this far? Or at least coherent enough to send a message beyond vague impressions or emotions.
Whatever we do we ought to send letters to Kragg, Belegar and Algard even if its just to give them a first hand account.
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- The internet
That's extremely unlikely. Whatever you can say about Teclis, he would not leave a chaotic backdoor unaddressed. Also, if we send a memo to Teclis, (and we totally should), I wonder if it would help or hurt to have Asnaril's name attached.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
Thanks.
OK, in that case, I think the best thing to do is to make sure the Colleges know 1) what we observed and 2) what we're thinking about trying when we get to Dum. We might not actually be able to mess with the waystone when we get there, but we should let them know.
[ ] Plan Watch For Falling Karaks
-[ ] Float the idea of cutting off the waystone power when you get to Dum and what the possible consequences of that are.
-[ ] Send a secure message to the Colleges explaining what we saw, what happened, and that we're considering shutting down the waystone power at Dum if we can.
@BoneyM, would something like this be viable, or is it impossible in some respect / overly micromanagey?
Do we know how to reach that on our own? I am skeptical.
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Possible write-in.
[ ] No... and yes. Wait until back at the steam wagons and taking whatever measures to reduce chances of Chaos eavesdropping, then swear Borek, Gotrek, and Snorri to secrecy and explain Waystones to them. Explain that if you could shut off the Waystone in Karag Dum for a few days, it might force Karak Vlag back to reality and hold it there long enough for all the daemons inside to dissolve, instantly relieving any dwarven hold-outs. Perhaps this should be added to mission objectives?
@BoneyM would this be acceptable?
[ ] No... and yes. Wait until back at the steam wagons and taking whatever measures to reduce chances of Chaos eavesdropping, then swear Borek, Gotrek, and Snorri to secrecy and explain Waystones to them. Explain that if you could shut off the Waystone in Karag Dum for a few days, it might force Karak Vlag back to reality and hold it there long enough for all the daemons inside to dissolve, instantly relieving any dwarven hold-outs. Perhaps this should be added to mission objectives?
@BoneyM would this be acceptable?
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
So we can all agree what the next project we suggest to Belegar is, right?