Okay, since large giants have a space of 10ft, that means in a 10ft-broad, 240ft long trail it's pretty easy to see that only 24 of them will be able to march. +1 more who has the spell imbued and is in the additional first field.

The Mammonths having a space of 15 feet basically means they have to walk in 2 neighboured castings of the spell and only 16 of them fit in that doubled trail.

This is all assuming giants and mammoths both can walk in close formation.

@Goldfish @DragonParadox
Sorry, but I don't see that work. The mammoths (600 something I believe?) alone would require somewhere around 80 castings per day.
Viserys can shit magic that most archmages pale in comparison, but that is too much.

We can take the giants over a Risen Road, if we are willing to spend a lot of daily magic, but never the beasts.
 
Okay, since large giants have a space of 10ft, that means in a 10ft-broad, 240ft long trail it's pretty easy to see that only 24 of them will be able to march. +1 more who has the spell imbued and is in the additional first field.

The Mammonths having a space of 15 feet basically means they have to walk in 2 neighboured castings of the spell and only 16 of them fit in that doubled trail.

This is all assuming giants and mammoths both can walk in close formation.

@Goldfish @DragonParadox
Sorry, but I don't see that work. The mammoths (600 something I believe?) alone would require somewhere around 80 castings per day.
Viserys can shit magic that most archmages pale in comparison, but that is too much.

We can take the giants over a Risen Road, if we are willing to spend a lot of daily magic, but never the beasts.

Hmm, OK that would mean no road just speed buffs from the banners which takes the trip from 3.5 days to 4.5 days as you have to look for flat terrain. Are you OK with spending that extra day guys or should I leave the vote open longer?
 
Hmm, OK that would mean no road just speed buffs from the banners which takes the trip from 3.5 days to 4.5 days as you have to look for flat terrain. Are you OK with spending that extra day guys or should I leave the vote open longer?
Viserys can cast Undermaster to use Move Earth as a standard actions to eliminate any larger hindrances in a moment.

So while we can't constantly walk on a straight road, we can at least avoid taking large detours around things in the landscape.
 
Viserys can cast Undermaster to use Move Earth as a standard actions to eliminate any larger hindrances in a moment.

So while we can't constantly walk on a straight road, we can at least avoid taking large detours around things in the landscape.

That would take things down to four days. I don't think an extra twelve hours are worth keeping the vote open when I can write so vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 8, 2020 at 6:17 PM, finished with 58 posts and 14 votes.
 
At some point I would love it if Xor pulled something like this off in a public setting, or at least witness it among adventurers visiting the Deep.
 
Well, I guess we aren't visiting Reach Lords/one of the Fey courts this month.
If we are to follow the rules, this action isn't in the "free" range at this point.

Fine by me, but we should also account for everyone we have here losing some progress.
I'm too sleepy to re-read, @Duesal, who's everyone we have here guarding the giants? Gotta remove some of their actions' progress this month.
 
The trouble was assuming any action would be "free" when there's logistics involved. When we could teleport, a sidetrip could damn well be "free" since we can wave our hands and make a problem go away if we get creative enough.

Doing that here saved us 5.5 days of travel time.

This is also why I suggested doing it at the end of the month by the way. Because I knew we would get side tracked.

It's a very real problem though, if we don't take care of this now, we have to either take care of it later, or let our enemies get a free stab in without suffering any attrition in return.

On the other side of things, 'free' actions still exist at least in so far as if you only do one, you get full progress on a roll which tracks it.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 8, 2020 at 6:17 PM, finished with 58 posts and 14 votes.
 
Interlude DCCLXXXIX: Of Blood and Monsters
Of Blood and Monsters

Eleventh Day of the First Month 294 AC

There was something almost overwhelming about seeing so many giants and their herds marching south, like an avalanche of flesh and bone, fur and ivory bearing down from the north at a rumbling run under enchanted banners, Rina thought. Tireless and wreathed in golden light that was the bane of devils and dead things, the clubs of the warriors marked with sorcerous seals fit to slay even the greatest beasts of the north. They looked like what she imagined the nightmares of lords who still opposed the Dragon must. Yet the King had little interest in making them warriors, just getting them out of the hands of the Enemy. Of course their strength would profit the realm no matter what they did so the wheels of trade and craft turned, the clink of coin changing hands, but that was simply the nature of things. People of all sorts were the land's wealth more than gold or silver.

For now her task alongside all the others was to ensure that they all got to Castle Black alive. Strange at first to think herself their guardian, these folk of which she had heard little of all her life but for whispered fireside tales, some more ghoulish than others, but even had she not known other giants in the Deep it would have taken but one look at a babe sleeping peacefully in its mother's arms while being rocked by the stride of their mammoth to forget all the silly stories of 'bloodthirsty brutes'.

For all Rina knew the world had monsters in it, for all she had been one of them, she also knew that there were far more beings in the wide world that men counted monsters from nothing but fear, spite or greed.

As the King swept great banks of earth from their way and thinned the tangled trees to allow the caravan to pass by swifter straighter path they descended down into a vale filled with dark green pines and weathered in poisonous ivy. They wouldn't be stopping here to let the beasts graze and the giants eat their noonday meal, that Rina was sure of.

No sooner had the thought passed through her mind that a howl echoed under the trees, like wolf or dog it was but not, long and mournful, too long to have past the lips of any living beast. Then another... and another.

Princess Daenerys dove from the sky, a spark of silver against the blue sky, but Rina heard her in her mind before her feet had even touched the ground. "There's a pack of the dead hunting a girl southeast of here. She can't be older than ten but she's running a lot faster than her feet aught to carry her by some spell, but there are more wights hidden ahead of her waiting in ambush."

"The girl is... a servant of a the Old Gods, a new made one,"
the King's voice resounded in Rina's mind along the same link, the pause making her think he was talking to someone else in his mind. Surely not the Old Gods themselves, King Viserys was no kind of priest. "I think we owe her a rescue, she just spilled the blood of one high in the favor of the Enemy in sacrifice."

"Who?"
Rina asked, wondering what would cause so young a child to not only kill but sacrifice with forethought.

"Her father and would-be 'husband'," the King answered grimly.

Rina cursed aloud without meaning to, cold rage blowing through her. For the first time since she had woken to her new life she thought of what it would be like to raise the dead, just so she could kill the bastard more painfully.

Who is sent to save the girl?

[] Write in

OOC: Dany only glimpsed the dead from on high so all she can say about the ones waiting in ambush is that they are corporeal, which is to say wights and humanoid.
 
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The trouble was assuming any action would be "free" when there's logistics involved. When we could teleport, a sidetrip could damn well be "free" since we can wave our hands and make a problem go away if we get creative enough.

Doing that here saved us 5.5 days of travel time.

This is also why I suggested doing it at the end of the month by the way. Because I knew we would get side tracked.

It's a very real problem though, if we don't take care of this now, we have to either take care of it later, or let our enemies get a free stab in without suffering any attrition in return.

On the other side of things, 'free' actions still exist at least in so far as if you only do one, you get full progress on a roll which tracks it.
Well, like I said, I'm fine with this.
Objectively it takes priority over other tasks we had penned in for the month, by the sheer virtue of how much we pissed the Others off.

That we could sidestep only some logistics... well, it's better than nothing, and I'm glad for that much. Thanks @Goldfish.
 
I wonder how many Wildlings are left in the North? With Mance's people gone, the Thenns gone, and now the Giants, that's all of the large groups that I know of.

At this point, I don't think it's worth our time to try to further evacuate the North.
Okay, since large giants have a space of 10ft, that means in a 10ft-broad, 240ft long trail it's pretty easy to see that only 24 of them will be able to march. +1 more who has the spell imbued and is in the additional first field.

The Mammonths having a space of 15 feet basically means they have to walk in 2 neighboured castings of the spell and only 16 of them fit in that doubled trail.

This is all assuming giants and mammoths both can walk in close formation.

@Goldfish @DragonParadox
Sorry, but I don't see that work. The mammoths (600 something I believe?) alone would require somewhere around 80 castings per day.
Viserys can shit magic that most archmages pale in comparison, but that is too much.

We can take the giants over a Risen Road, if we are willing to spend a lot of daily magic, but never the beasts.
That makes sense, I guess. My fault for not running the numbers too well. Was distracted doing work crap yesterday afternoon.

Good idea to use Undermaster to help smooth the way in some places. Risen Road would still be very useful for the same purpose, too. One casting and suddenly you have a 200+ foot long bridge over rivers or significant dips in terrain, over large obstacles which would force a detour, etc.
 
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At this point, I don't think it's worth our time to try to further evacuate the North.
Eeeh.
We should probably assign some mid-level people with all appropriate precautions and equipment possible, to diplomancing/killing off Wildlings until their weak/young agree to go away with us. Once every few months I guess.
We promised that much to the asshole spirit.

That way, we should be able to be done with even the most minor groups by the time Winter starts coming around.
Viserys' own time is not worth this, ofc.
 
[X] Waymar, Vee, Tyene and Xor
-[X] Viserys to Waymar: "Some advice, friend. If you don't stop rescuing maidens now, you'll end up with a castle full of them. I should know, seeing as how I have this problem myself..."

[X] Malarys Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Seeker of Law
-[X] Skills (8 points): +1 Bluff, +1 Concentration, +1 Diplomacy, +1 Knowledge (Law), +1 Sense Motive, +1 Spellcraft, +2 Knowledge (Religion)
 
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Eeeh.
We should probably assign some mid-level people with all appropriate precautions and equipment possible, to diplomancing/killing off Wildlings until their weak/young agree to go away with us. Once every few months I guess.
We promised that much to the asshole spirit.

That way, we should be able to be done with even the most minor groups by the time Winter starts coming around.
Viserys' own time is not worth this, ofc.
Send a group of PCs mounted on Heralds. Mobile firepower and flying mounts all in one package.
 
Of Blood and Monsters

Eleventh Day of the First Month 294 AC

There was something almost overwhelming about seeing so many giants and their herds marching south, like an avalanche of flesh and bone, fur and ivory, bearing down from the north at a rumbling run under enchanted banners, Rina thought. Tireless and wreathed in golden light that was the bane of devils and dead things, the clubs of the guards marked with sorcerous seals fit to slay even the greatest beasts of the North, they looked like what she imagined the nightmares of lords who still opposed the Dragon must. Yet the king had little interest in making them warriors, just getting them out of the hands of the Enemy. Of course their strength would profit the realm no matter what they did, so the wheels of trade and craft turned, the clink of coin changing hands, but that was simply the nature of things. More than gold or silver, people of all sorts were the land's wealth.

For now her task, alongside all the others, was to ensure that they all got to Castle Black alive. Strange at first to think herself their guardian, these folk of which she had heard little all her life but whispered fireside tales, some more ghoulish than others, but even had she not known other giants in the Deep, it would have taken one look at a babe sleeping peacefully in its mothers arms, rocked by the stride of the mammoth, to forget all the silly stories of 'bloodthirsty brutes'.

Rina knew the world had monsters in it, for all she had been one of them. She knew that there were far more beings in the wide world that men counted monsters from nothing but fear, spite, or greed.

As the king swept great banks of earth from their way and thinned the tangled trees to allow the caravan to pass by swifter straighter paths, they descended down into a vale filled with dark green pines and wreathed in poisonous ivy. They wouldn't be stopping here to let the beasts graze and the giants eat their noonday meal, that Rina was sure of.

No sooner had the thought passed through her mind than a howl echoed under the trees, like wolf or dog it was but not, long and mournful, too long to have passed the lips of any living beast. Then another... and another.

Princess Daenerys dove from the sky, a spark of silver against the blue sky, but Rina heard her in her mind before her feet had even touched the ground. "There's a pack of the dead hunting a girl southeast of here. She can't be older than ten, but she's running a lot faster than her feet aught to carry her by some spell. There are more wights hidden ahead of her waiting in ambush."

"The girl is... a servant of a the Old Gods, a new made one,"
the king's voice resounded in Rina's mind along the same link, the pause making her think he was talking to someone else in his mind. Surely not the gods themselves, King Viserys was no kind of priest. "I think we owe her a rescue, she just spilled the blood of one high in the favor of the Enemy in sacrifice."

"Who?"
Rina asked, wondering what would so young a child to not only killing but sacrifice with forethought.

"Her father and would be 'husband'," the king answered grimly.

Rina cursed aloud without meaning to, cold rage blowing through her. For the first time since she had woken to her new life she thought of what it would be like to raise the dead, just so she could kill the bastard more painfully.

Who is sent to save the girl?

[] Write in

OOC: Dany only glimpsed the dead from on high, so all she can say about the ones waiting in ambush is that they are corporeal, which is to say wights and humanoid. Not yet edited.
Here's an edited version of the chapter, DP.

After reading about Rina's impression of the Giants and mammoth traveling south at speed, I regret not naming my plan for this chapter 'Operation: Snowpiercer'. All aboard the Viserys Express!
 
I wonder how many Wildlings are left in the North? With Mance's people gone, the Thenns gone, and now the Giants, that's all of the large groups that I know of.

At this point, I don't think it's worth our time to try to further evacuate the North.
Still likely small villages and tribes scattered about, though Mance likely gathered a great deal of them and still is.
Did we already merk Craster, or did one of his wives just do it for us?
Pretty sure one of his daughters did it for us since he sacrifices his sons to Others.
 
[X] Waymar, Vee and Tyene
-[X] Viserys to Waymar: "Some advice, friend. If you don't stop rescuing maidens now, you'll end up with a castle full of them. I should know, seeing as how I have this problem myself..."
Add Xor as well, please?

He could use the XP, and he has some really helpful spells he could have prepared in anticipation of operations in the North.
 
Add Xor as well, please?

He could use the XP, and he has some really helpful spells he could have prepared in anticipation of operations in the North.
Done.

Also, I'm pretty sure we didn't take Mance and friends south of the wall yet, at least not longer than a visit. We left him a bunch of stuff and promised to send traders so he could build a nestegg so the people could settle in the empire with something more than the clothes on their back. His whole shtick was, in essence, "I don't want to leave all these people to die to Winter, even if half are real assholes".

Remember, Mance could have gone south at any time. He did it in canon repeatedly.

He stayed behind because he loved the Free Folk.
 
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Done.

Also, I'm pretty sure we didn't take Mance and friends south of the wall yet, at least not longer than a visit. His whole shtick was, in essence, "I don't want to leave all these people do die to Winter, even if half are real assholes".

Remember, Mance could have gone south at any time. He did it in canon repeatedly.

He stayed behind because he loved the Free Folk.
We haven't? Ugh, my memory playing tricks on me again.

Okay, it's time to pass the word on to him that he needs to get his ass in gear.
 
We haven't? Ugh, my memory playing tricks on me again.

Okay, it's time to pass the word on to him that he needs to get his ass in gear.
It's barely been a couple months since he started. He had to take over Hardhome because of logistics, something we ourselves are dealing with, then negotiate with us to get trade going so that the prideful Freefolk wouldn't just come to Hardhome, but be willing to leave the North since half won't trust handouts, and the other half has more pride than sense to accept them.

We can always speed things along by sending people to nudge them toward Hardhome. We could even send people to start warding the place as a practice project if we expect it to last for multiple years.
 
[X] Crake

I wonder if we can't stop by Whitetree as well since they have giant Heart Tree there and population likely needs to move as well, might do so if we can move weirwood.
 
"The girl is... a servant of a the Old Gods, a new made one," the King's voice resounded in Rina's mind along the same link, the pause making her think he was talking to someone else in his mind. Surely not the Old Gods themselves, King Viserys was no kind of priest. "I think we owe her a rescue, she just spilled the blood of one high in the favor of the Enemy in sacrifice."

"Who?"
Rina asked, wondering what would cause so young a child to not only kill but sacrifice with forethought.

"Her father and would-be 'husband'," the King answered grimly.
Aww... I had hoped we would get Craster. Well. No point in crying over spilt entrails, especially if they went to the right place anyway.

Also: Further proof that the Old Gods are perfectly willing to give you some leeway on kinslaying under the right circumstances.
 
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