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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Jyn Ryvia said:
its really hard to say just how wealthy Mathy is going to be once the we start making that 300gc per year, because most of the people we could compare it to that have that kind of cash flow have it attached to land, armies etc etc. instead of just 'cash to pocket'.

Mathy might legit be in a position in the near future where she won't be anywhere never one of the 'richest' people in the old world, but might be one of the top 100 of people with disposable income. as in Anton, a baron, will have less then her to just spend on anything he takes a fancy to, even though if you took all his assets overall he would have way more then her.
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And yet nothing to spend it on. Because basically everything that we want can't be bought with just money.
 
fictionfan said:
And yet nothing to spend it on. Because basically everything that we want can't be bought with just money.
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What do Mathilde want anyway? I think this is a discussion worth having, because there are probably ten different interpretations out there of what Mathilde might want. Do we even want for anything to begin with right now?
 
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[X] Plan: Spoken Queekish v4
[X] Plan: Spoken Queekish and AV preliminary research done. V3
[X] Plan: Spoken Queekish v4 with convincing Qrech that noone knows he's alive.
[X] Plan: Save the History! also AV and Job I guess...
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
as in Anton, a baron, will have less then her to just spend on anything he takes a fancy to, even though if you took all his assets overall he would have way more then her.
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...aside from the minor asset of 36% of the largest trade corporation in the southern Empire, stretching from Karak Eight Peaks across the rivers of the Empire. :V

But yeah, that's becoming a lot of disposable income to fit through a loophole without snagging.
 
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Andmeuths said:
What do we want anyway? I think this is a discussion worth having, because there are probably ten different interpretations out there of what Mathilde might want.
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We would like better equipment, but we already have basically the best money can't buy. We want more AP, but paying for more AP comes with all sort of downsides.
Luminous said:
You forget about them books! :p
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At the current rate we are likely to reach +9 on every topic that we can think of within a few years and any more will once again be a case of things that money can't buy. We already are somewhat bottle-necked by favor for what books we can buy.
 
[X] Plan Dictionaries now, powerstones for AV stuff and jazz
I am not the biggest fan of learning spoken and I feel Wolf is fine for now, we have more important things to learn and improve.
 
Could we just donate the money to whoever we think most deserving? Maybe continue paying taxes to the grey college for good will as well?
 
A good investment would be to establish a EIC presence in Ulthuan. Then we would have a connection into their book market. Besides spy networks expanding is generally useful.
 
I vote for just hoarding it under our bed! No! No! A pool of it! Go full Scrooge McDuck.
 
Alliterate said:
High shelves?
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I know, if that's what we really want from life, let's spend our Boon on the highest shelves that can ever be made!

This isn't just a philosophical question by the way, since we do happen to have a one time key that can go a long way to fulfilling what Mathilde "wants". But unless what we know what that is, if anything, it's hard to actually get anywhere in discussion and everyone just talks past one another, which results in angry posters, heated discussions and accusations of bad faith.


It could be, so, so much easier if we could all agree Mathilde wants something, or even better yet, argue Mathilde wants many things, but the priority in which she places them is the point of contention. But until we can actualize what Mathilde wants, it's very hard for a real discussion to start isn't it?

I think that's why alot of people in the last vote didn't like any of the options on offer, because it wasn't really clear that this is what they want to see Mathilde really want, but they themselves don't know what Mathilde actually wants if you know what I mean.

Is Mathilde still Strollendreki as she introduced herself to Belegar almost 4 years ago, seeking something to seek?

Rafin said:
Could we just donate the money to whoever we think most deserving? Maybe continue paying taxes to the grey college for good will as well?
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Just look at the previous posts: the thread wants five different things. Why? Why does this sync with Mathilde's heartfelt motivations?

Or perhaps she's like the poor protagonist of Twitch Plays Pokemon, where voters scream a thousand contradictory commands into her head?

Yeah, but until we know what Mathilde wants as a person, who is to say who Mathilde thinks is most deserving? Why not contribute to Shallya, as a good servant of Ranald does? Why not use it to hire more underlings to pursue her own personal research projects.... wait, we can already do that with GC and Favors, without having to share the credit, so why not do that? Maybe she could convert her money to favor incomes, to upkeep good stuff that has a favor upkeep but not so much a GC upkeep?

This is truly Divided Loyalties indeed, when Mathilde wants many things, but is unclear in her head what she actually wants in her heart of hearts.

Maybe this is Mathilde:

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If Mathilde becomes incredibly rich I would like for her to use her wealth to improve the world. Imagine how much change she can bring about if she uses her wealth to help people.

1 increase of schools in the empire. Imagine if every village ( of acertain size) had a school open to teach reading, numbering, and critical thinking.

2 micro loans to women. Women in real life are more likely to pay back loans and use them to help there families. Microloaning in Asia has helped millions of women pay for house hold, start businesses and for medicine.

3 funding of temples. Obviously Mathilde would like to fund certain gods more thanothers but I can think of 2 gods who would provide medical help and centers for learning.
 
How good a public library could we make with just money?

Edit: Likely an alright one, but it would not have much staying power once we are gone.
 
storryeater said:
Would they even care? Considering they are a hive mind, they basically reproduce selfsexually.
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Omegahugger said:
A: Aromantic humans still enjoy romance stories, so I assume aromantic spiderhives might as well. And that's assuming the We are actually aromantic, which we technically don't know yet.

B: If they don't, we just need to find some romance novels that also feature some non-romance aspects to trick them into liking it. You know, like one whose main character is a hunter so the We might connect to that shared aspect, and from there care about the main character's happiness and as a result their love life.
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I'm going to take a moment to recommend A Fire Upon The Deep to anyone who finds The We interesting. And relatedly to point out that if The We isn't entirely unique it could plausibly have romantic feelings towards other hives as a means of acquiring a wider range of genetic material/preventing inbreeding.
 
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i am just gonna go with this plan but anyone can sell me on their preferred plan and I'd consider changing
 
I've kinda got the impression that Mathilde mostly doesn't have any long term objective other than attaining cosmic power and acsend-- ensuring the safety of the empire and the dwarven kingdoms.
 
Alliterate said:
Time to write a paper on Mathilde's Hierarchy of Needs.
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Harried said:
I've kinda got the impression that Mathilde mostly doesn't have any long term objective other than attaining cosmic power and acsend-- ensuring the safety of the empire and the dwarven kingdoms.
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Eh, if I was to dig into the narrative, I'd confidently say that Mathilde wants to make the world a better place, even after she is gone.

I'd also confidently say that Mathilde is zealous for Ranald.

I'd also confidently say Mathilde loves the very notion of collecting.

I'd also say Mathilde has grandoise world changing plans.

I'd say Mathilde fundamentally values the acquisition and creation of new Knowledge as an endeavor unto itself, as an act of intellectual curiosity.

I'd also say Mathilde has grand aspirations to make Institutions that make a difference to the world, just like the Institute of the Grey College saved her.

I'd say Mathilde has aspirations for the well being of Institutions - the Empire, the College, Karaz Ankor, the Eight Peaks, Stirland, but also people (Anton, Belegar, so on)

Now, it's amazing if all of these align with one another, but they don't necessarily always. Divided Loyalties.

.... Mountain Mystic was a wasted opportunity. Excuse me while I ruminate on a bad case of voter's remorse.
 
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Question still really far behind but for the Essin paper could we use said paper as a reason to pull what information we can on the magical terms that he knows from our prisoner. I don't know what it is that he does know but Kazahad doesn't have very many words for magic so if we talk to him about it he could mention the skaven word and and as he likes learning then he should understand how blood thirsty academia can be
 
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