Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- Location
- Poland
[X] [WE] Scavenge the Gauntlet
[X] [BOON] Save it until the Karak is wealthy enough to afford my ambition.
[X] [ROOM] Guest Room
[X] [ROOM] Vault
[X] [ROOM] Gyrocopter Hangar
[X] [ROOM] Training Hall
[X] [ROOM] Firing Range
[X] [ROOM] Armoury
[X] [COLLEGE] 5 favors for a full translation of the Cathayan books
[X] [DWARF] Have a Grandmaster Engineer have a go at the Stirland Repeater - 8 favors
[X] [BOON] Save it until the Karak is wealthy enough to afford my ambition.
[X] [ROOM] Guest Room
[X] [ROOM] Vault
[X] [ROOM] Gyrocopter Hangar
[X] [ROOM] Training Hall
[X] [ROOM] Firing Range
[X] [ROOM] Armoury
[X] [COLLEGE] 5 favors for a full translation of the Cathayan books
[X] [DWARF] Have a Grandmaster Engineer have a go at the Stirland Repeater - 8 favors
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I decided to do a bit of math about our finances, because people have registered concern about our spending habits. We have, if we spend our money maximally efficiently (by which I mean using the ingots to buy Imperial goods, since the crown is weaker against silver than the dwarf gold coin), 3094 Imperial crowns, 4 Imperial shillings, and 399 dwarf gold coins. We also gain 60 dwarf gold coins at the start of each turn from our employment with Belegar.
This turn, the current frontrunning Library plan spends 300gc on dwarf books and 350 on Imperial books. Happily, 300 is the exact amount of our stipend, so we're getting the maximally efficient conversion of our silver for these purposes. This means that we're dropping down from 3094.2 to 2744.2 effective Imperial crowns, an ~11.4% decrease in our stock of Imperial currency. This is by no means an insignificant amount of money, but we're not on track to go bankrupt any time soon, even if we keep spending at this rate. (For starters, assuming nothing changes in the financial situation of the EIC, starting on turn 30 we will be getting 125 Imperial crowns per turn from dividends from our ownership stake in the EIC.)
This turn, the current frontrunning Library plan spends 300gc on dwarf books and 350 on Imperial books. Happily, 300 is the exact amount of our stipend, so we're getting the maximally efficient conversion of our silver for these purposes. This means that we're dropping down from 3094.2 to 2744.2 effective Imperial crowns, an ~11.4% decrease in our stock of Imperial currency. This is by no means an insignificant amount of money, but we're not on track to go bankrupt any time soon, even if we keep spending at this rate. (For starters, assuming nothing changes in the financial situation of the EIC, starting on turn 30 we will be getting 125 Imperial crowns per turn from dividends from our ownership stake in the EIC.)
- Location
- Spain
Man we are already filthy rich, if we wanted we could have Mathilde literally sleeping in a bed of silver Dragon Style...
I think we will be getting slightly less due to college dues. which if I remember right are 5%? meaning we will be getting 118.75 crowns per turn.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
That's true and I forgot to take it into account in my income math.
That said, I suspect that by turn 30 we will be a Lord Magister or close to it, and they don't pay dues, which I'm sure Boney will appreciate so as not to have to constantly rely on things easily divisible by twenty.
This is, in fact, literally true. At 20 shillings to the crown, we have approximately sixty thousand silver shillings. Assuming a shilling is a circle an inch across (the size of a US quarter), we have enough silver to sleep on a pile approximately the size of a queen-size mattress.
(it would only be like ten coins deep. We don't have a hoard quite big enough for adequate back support. But we definitely started at that level and have been working our way down.)
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Pretty sure becoming a Black Magister means the vow of poverty no longer applies to you.
I am 33% sure Greta has slept on a pile of coins at least once.
And if she didn't, I am 66% sure she instead tried bathing in them.
- Location
- Finland
I guess i should have specified "without the order deciding they want us dead."
- Location
- Canada
That's my preferred choice out of the talk about branch campuses and warships and other stuff.
Centre for learning, general learning not magical learning, backed up by dwarf stubbornness. Some place that won't get all its books thrown on a pyre the next time a particularly cold winter or frothing mad witch hunter rolls through.
As time goes on we could hire librarians, scribes, linguists, teachers or tutors, various other staff. Journalists (start a news agency branch in the EIC?), archaeologists. Just start small and grow organically. That's why I'd prefer to start soon rather than waiting to make it big and expensive. With a King willing to back it, it's an easy project to scale upward on when opportunity presents itself.
Kind of an Archaeological Preservation Society sort of thing. Bringing exotic people and ideas together in a big, official way. But something that stands apart from secretive guild systems.
Plus a hefty romantic novel section.
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sounds great, to bad hording is going to win for the foreseeable future so we arn't even going to get to the stage to argue for this...
- Location
- Australia
Could go with a hefty section for fiction in general.
- Location
- Canada
That still leaves the opportunity in the future. Which is fine too.
I'm not that strongly invested in go-go-going right this second. It would be nice, but waiting is fine.
Ranald would definitely approve.
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Pfft, what are they going to do, we're not in the Empire anymore.
The worst they can do is send our ducklings awa-Actually, on second thought, let's not openly become a Black Magister just yet.
- Location
- Finland
Also assassins, all the assassins.
Yep, exactly.
Plus, when I said "from all over the world" I meant from all over the world. K8P is probably the best situated to start accumulating a collection of books from Cathay, Ind, etc., on this side of the Worlds Edge Mountains, and with Barak Varr about to be hooked up to the Empire's riverine trade our Dwarf book hook-up guy's job just became a lot more convenient.
The sheer variety of sources the Library could potentially draw upon is immense.
- Location
- Canada
"GET IN LINE-LINE, STUPID MAN-THINGS!"
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
What a take.
Given that the Library is the only thing with any traction in the thread right now, if the boon goes to a vote right now it is nigh-guaranteed to win. The only question is what flavor of Library we'd be getting.
As such, anybody who doesn't want to spend the boon on a Library should obviously vote to delay the boon vote, which makes your assertion that voting to wait on the boon makes us a short-sighted 99-Elixir-carrying RPG scrub a bit insulting.
And in the meantime, I'm pretty sure we're still allowed to hammer out the details of any potential boon ideas that have caught player interest, as is currently happening right now in regards to how we would want the Library to manifest.
As for other boon ideas, I'm not sure if this is a boon-applicable per se, but one selfish thing I would be interested in asking of the king of a growing economic hub with a growing and religiously ununified human population would be the establishment of K8P as Ranaldite capital of the world, with Ranald the Magician officially recognized as one of the Karak's recognized patrons. (Ranald the Magician probably wouldn't exist as a warp entity when such a declaration was made, but I imagine the Deceiver'd get a kick out of us lying to the world in order to generate the perception and worship required to retroactively make it true.)
Again - not sure if there would be a concise way to convert the boon into that vague collection of ideas, or if it would require the boon in the first place, but it is a properly ambitious non-Library Mathilde-centric idea I'm personally interested in, so I figured I'd at least throw it out there.
FlyingScanian
Tea Addict
- Location
- Land of Eternal Night
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Most voting seem to be in hand (i.e. things I want are winning where I want them, things I don't care as much about, I don't care as much about), except for one:
[X] [BOON] I know just what to spend it on...
(Yes, I want the library. I also want to avoid a That-Damned-Book Electric Boogaloo. Better to get it done, than to eternally have it waiting, and you know it will be "discussed" as long as it's there)
[X] [BOON] I know just what to spend it on...
(Yes, I want the library. I also want to avoid a That-Damned-Book Electric Boogaloo. Better to get it done, than to eternally have it waiting, and you know it will be "discussed" as long as it's there)
- Location
- The Great Blue Yonder
[X] [WE] Economic Integration
Eight pounds of live animal becomes one pound of raw silk. This is an extremely simple problem to solve. Start importing live produce and paying the local hunters to start setting snares and digging pits.
[X] [BOON] Save it as a trump card to exploit an opportunity or address an emergency.
[X] [ROOM] Vault
To keep safe your wealth, your secrets, and your miscellaneous esoterica.
[X] [ROOM] Provision Room
A room filled with provisions and water sufficient to sustain a single person (and their dog) for a year.
[X] [ROOM] Wolf's Room
He sleeps at the foot of your bed, but he'd probably appreciate a room of his own for midday naps and playing with the Wolf-Rats.
Eight pounds of live animal becomes one pound of raw silk. This is an extremely simple problem to solve. Start importing live produce and paying the local hunters to start setting snares and digging pits.
[X] [BOON] Save it as a trump card to exploit an opportunity or address an emergency.
[X] [ROOM] Vault
To keep safe your wealth, your secrets, and your miscellaneous esoterica.
[X] [ROOM] Provision Room
A room filled with provisions and water sufficient to sustain a single person (and their dog) for a year.
[X] [ROOM] Wolf's Room
He sleeps at the foot of your bed, but he'd probably appreciate a room of his own for midday naps and playing with the Wolf-Rats.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
You are mischaracterizing him. All he wants is that we specifically make this request after the College gets involved with the Waystone thing, which he expect to happen in the next couple of turns.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
A: We've already tangled with Eshin, there are already assassins coming after us.
B: The College blatantly sending assassins at Belegar's court wizard is going to make things a diplomatic hell, unless he agrees that she has to go. Which, considering everything she's done and his flagging faith in dwarven traditions, is not an easy sell at all.
Do make sure our copies of Lustrian texts are actual copies, though.