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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Moratorium's over, let's get to it

[X] YAR: Fortify and garrison all entrances to the mountain.
- [X] Clan Angrund, Throng of Karak Azul, Karak Izor Immigrants
- [X] Mathilde

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
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BoneyM said:
Just the Zilfin-held parts.

Most are spread out, but there's a few clumps of five or so at what was the larger battlefields.
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Thanks.

OK, then, with moratorium up, here's my votes:

[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.
This is the biggest wild card in play, we want to be on the spot.

[X] RHYN: Fortify and garrison all entrances to the mountain.
Step 1: Fortify and garrison the entrances
-Being on the defensive is the safest way to handle trolls. Attacking trolls gets people killed, defending against them with field artillery support is great.
Step 2: After we've figured out what the hell is going on with Yar (i.e. not in this vote), collapse or otherwise block off the overland entrances to Rhyn, to deny it to Red Fang.
-If the trolls take exception to us doing this, we will already have a bunch of forces and field artillery pointing in their direction.
Step 3: After we survive the Waaagh, whistle for a Bright or three to blow up the remaining trolls.
-Zero reason to get anyone killed fighting what is essentially a pack of dangerous animals. It's not like they're going to turn into a coherent fighting force or strategic threat any time soon.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
We do not want them to regroup at all, and the Mhonar Mystery has let dwarves live before. We're not trespassing into the dragon's previous territory, just making sure that Skryre is done.
 
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[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.

Clear the board, so we don't have to worry about internal fronts.
 
[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.

Cap'nSmurfy said:
....I wonder what kind of face Belegar will make if he returns to find Mathilde has conquered the rest of the peaks while he was gone.
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I want to see it mainly when he sees how little it cost, personally. What he thought would the work of perhaps a generation, at an incredible cost, got done cheap.

(Which is why we shouldn't fight the dragoon.)
 
Cap'nSmurfy said:
....I wonder what kind of face Belegar will make if he returns to find Mathilde has conquered the rest of the peaks while he was gone.

"You were in charge for a day! How?!"
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"Our enemies, through not fault of my own, had deadly accidents that can in no way be traced back to me.":cool:

"Matty I don't care if you assassinated them all. You don't need to use euphimisms.":rolleyes:

"I'm not though! That's actually what happened!":cry:
 
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[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.

I know Eshin and Mors are likely even more dead, but I do want to see the dragon in action before making any other moves. Somehow, why do I suspect we might end up with the option to intervene against a United Eshin-Mors front against the Dragon by eliminating Warlords and the Eshin Sorcerer, or to use the opportunity to eliminate the Dragon too?

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

Honestly, Trolls feasting are probably trolls that can be picked off one at a time. This is a good time to strike, and I really don't want to lock away forces pointing at the trolls of Rhyn or risk a Troll interrupt when we attempt to seal Rhyn later.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.

Yup, fully agreed. Let's make sure Clan Skyre really is completely purged from the Eight Peaks. They should be given no time to rally, and hopefully no time to make it to the nearest Wrap-Rail station and Ranald forbid, call for more reinforcements to be shipped in from the Under-Empire.

Night said:
I want to see it mainly when he sees how little it cost, personally. What he thought would the work of perhaps a generation, at an incredible cost, got done cheap.
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We've done in 24 hours what Belegar likely thought would have taken decades. Granted our enemies more or less annihilated or are annihilating each other, so I imagine many Dwarves might still grumble that they couldn't strike out some of these grudges out themselves, dooming Clan Mors and likely nuking Red Fang within the next 24 hours excepting. Belegar might well be relieved though since every enemy who slew each other was one less Dawi or Umgi life spent reclaiming the Peaks.
 
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Like I said, waiting until later to hit Rhyn is folly, it gives the Trolls time to clump up again, when they're presently split up enough we can destroy them in detail at limited cost to ourselves through leveraging maximum local superiority.

Assuming the Skaven won't just cheese it as well once they realize there's an Emperor Dragon out for their blood is also folly, one of the things about them is that they're very quick to drop mutual disagreements in the face of a common foe--which a bloodlusting Emperor Dragon would definitely qualify as--and Clan Eshin is strong enough to threaten one, and Clan Mors is clever enough to potentially have a superweapon or two lying around in reserve.

Make sure that they can't get away, so that we don't have to worry about having to do this again later.
 
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[X] YAR: Fortify and garrison all entrances to the mountain.
- [X] Clan Angrund, Throng of Karak Azul, Karak Izor Immigrants
- [X] Mathilde
[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
The skavens are defeated already, why not just allow survivors to surrenderand be imprisoned or leave, there is no further need for bloodshed against a beaten enemy.
 
Katahiraga said:
The skavens are defeated already, why not just allow survivors to surrenderand be imprisoned or leave, there is no further need for bloodshed against a beaten enemy.
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Skaven don't surrender in good faith, and Dwarfs won't accept the surrender even if they somehow did, there's just too many Grudges involved for them to be entirely fair about it.

More importantly, we've struck a critical--but not yet mortal wound, and they still have Lords on their side who can tip the scales. The absolute last thing we want to happen is Skaven escaping this place with firsthand knowledge of our abilities and temperment--and detailed maps of the region.

They very, very much understand spite.
 
[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.
[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.

Do we need to write-in who assaults the Trolls?
 
[X] YAR: Attempt to make contact with the dragon.

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
@BoneyM You said that the Rangers will scout even if we chose to garrison the entrances to Yar, which is good news, but can we garrison and scout with Mathilde rather than the Rangers? I'd like for Mathilde to see the chaos for herself.
 
[X] YAR: Attempt to make contact with the dragon.
[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
[X] ZILFIN: Cordon the mountain with Rangers.
 
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Why do the trolls need to be killed, aren't they just simple creatures that want food, so that it's easy to control them like what the greenskibs did.

Plus do you guys think a dragon will trust dwarves that are killing everything in it's path
 
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Again and I repeat

"I sincerely doubt the Skaven in Yar will continue fighting among themselves in the face of an Emperor Dragon, they're both known for their discipline--and Mors at least still thinks their core territories are safe"

I would bet money they try for a breakout in the face of this, and are likely to succeed if we don't have a wall of dug in dawi with crossbows pointed to stop them. And once they find out what we did, there's going to be a lot of spite flying around.

Katahiraga said:
Why do the trolls need to be killed, aren't they just simple creatures that want food, so that it's easy to control them like what the greenskibs did.

Plus do you guys think a dragon will trust dwarves that are killing everything in it's path
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Greenskins can control Trolls because they're distantly related kin, and because Goblins have pretty good beast-control abilities. Nobody else has been known to tame a Troll, and a troll is always going to look for more food.

The cordon plan doesn't push into Yar very far, it just locks down the main exits and prevents the Skaven from escaping.
 
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From the last time we were voting on plans to propose to Belegar:
primemountain said:
@BoneyM How manageable would it be for Mat to ask for personal time? Like, personal Wizard time? It's normal for a Runelord to go into his own forge somethings, for months at a time, when he is working at something relevant to his craft.

Could Mat ask for something like that, if the current inner/outer situation ever allows for it?

A "Let me work on my backlog" kind of free task thingy?
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BoneyM said:
There's between six and nine hostile forces inside the Karak. This is not the time to ask for a holiday.
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I am reasonably certain the dice just want to torment Boney for saying that.
 
Katahiraga said:
The skavens are defeated already, why not just allow survivors to surrenderand be imprisoned or leave, there is no further need for bloodshed against a beaten enemy.
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Katahiraga said:
Why do the trolls need to be killed, aren't they just simple creatures that want food, so that it's easy to control them like what the greenskibs did.

Plus do you guys think a dragon will trust dwarves that are killing everything in it's path
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Are you trolling here?
 
Anyway, I asked a bit back but I think it got lost in the crush?

What's the current garrison in Under-Karagril @BoneyM ? I want to make sure that's pretty strong if need be in case the Mors force there decides to pull something, or if the Red Fangs manage to break through.
 
[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.
[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.
[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
[X] YAR: Make no move until you've scouted the Karag Yar battle.
-[X] Personally.

[X] RHYN: Assault the Trolls now.

[X] ZILFIN: Assault the mountain to slay any surviving Skaven.
 
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