If we renounced our vow of loyalty to the Empire we would be killed no ifs and buts and we were never given the option not to take the oath when taken to the College as a child I'd call that a hostage situation alright.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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If we renounced our vow of loyalty to the Empire we would be killed no ifs and buts and we were never given the option not to take the oath when taken to the College as a child I'd call that a hostage situation alright.
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- Australia
Granted, becoming the human Avatar of Greenskin Cunnin is just about the biggest middle finger you could possibly give to Sigmar, God of Fuck Greenskins.
Especially if you used that influence to subvert coalescing Waaaagh's and send them against enemies of the Empire.
Thematically, given our new envy of monstrous mounts and what he got last time we tithed godly energy, if the Ranald ploy succeeds then Wolf will turn out to retroactively have been a baby greatwolf all along, and no-one able to be affected by divine power will be able to remember otherwise.
And/or, Wolf gains the ability to absorb Ulgu from Matilde and form a semireal body, instantly going from good boi pupper to demigryph-sized warform and back.
Especially if you used that influence to subvert coalescing Waaaagh's and send them against enemies of the Empire.
Thematically, given our new envy of monstrous mounts and what he got last time we tithed godly energy, if the Ranald ploy succeeds then Wolf will turn out to retroactively have been a baby greatwolf all along, and no-one able to be affected by divine power will be able to remember otherwise.
And/or, Wolf gains the ability to absorb Ulgu from Matilde and form a semireal body, instantly going from good boi pupper to demigryph-sized warform and back.
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- Norway
If ten men blindly throw around knives in public and two of them hit someone, and the eight who missed go "I didn't hit anyone, why are you blaming me for what other people did", you shouldn't let them off the hook for being lucky.
As would pretty much any noble? Maybe they would be allowed to go into exile, but just maybe.
When did Mathilde blindly throw knives at anyone? She is not responsible for the group, she is responsible for herself and herself alone. The fact of the matter is that with Karg's rune she is probably the safest human mage in existence, but per word of GM is we showed ssaid rune to the College they would take it away.
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
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[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies.
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.
Don't try and absorb an energy source larger than your head.
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.
Don't try and absorb an energy source larger than your head.
Well, yes they've put in a lot of effort, as shown by the fact that wizards don't get lynched wherever they go. The roleplay source material suggests that city dwellers are much more accepting of wizards that the rural peasantry.
Remember that the Empire isn't a modern state. It's the fantasy Holy Roman Empire. it's a confederation of provinces that works together much more than a unitary states. The central government mainly exists as a vehicle for the Electors to coordinate their activities. There are very few Imperial institutions. The Colleges are pretty much the only Empire wide one.
I don't think so. It From the descriptions we have it seems like Teclis and Co were continually on the move recruiting potential wizards, teaching them, and fighting the forces of Chaos personally. The physical Colleges are 'probably' post war. Before then, given that Teclis was handing out power stones, he probably taught human apprentices by letting them draw on the pure mono-Wind energy in Powerstones rather, although that's conjecture.
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> Implying Mathilde is "blindly throwing around knives"
Here's a better analogy : "Just because some idiot tried to set up a knife-throwing act at the fair without having a license doesn't mean you should go after all the licensed professionals who do this for a living!"
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
You can easily frame it as a hostage situation though, because mages being hated is intentional it's fostered by the religious orders which have enormous influence and actual political power which the colleges of magic explicitly don't. The Grand patriarch of the Colleges doesn't have a seat at the Elector counts table but the Ar-Ulric and Three of the priests of Sigmar do.
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- Norway
Whenever she used magic without proper training and could have gotten daemonically possessed.
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- France
You forget the biggest Imperial Institution of them all : the Church. This is a theocracy, and the Church is the big institution used for social control. The Church is making ZERO effort to improve things, and in fact actively makes them worse every day.
They would definitly be allowed to go into exile and they would definitly not be hunted down by the religious authorities.
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
It's the surest way I can think of to reconcile Gork and Mork and ensure the long-term dominance of the Greenskins.
It's the surest way I can think of to reconcile Gork and Mork and ensure the long-term dominance of the Greenskins.
Except it's not. Some religious fanatics are, uneducated peasants fear them and lash out, but the Empire as an institution is not really something wizards are afraid of.
For the same reason there wasn't anyone else in the village to enforce any other Imperial laws - the Empire has tons of problems and can't go solve them all.
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- Singapore
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
And when would that be? When she was a child before she was almost burned at the stake, that childhood 'crime' done in ignorance deserves being bound to serve the empire for the rest of her life under pain of death?
We're giving it to Ranald
He'll have !!Fun!!
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- France
The Church is an Imperial institution. It trains priests and sends them out everywhere, and these priests shape society deeply. Indeed, the hatred for witches is often based on religion as much as anything, and the main faiths of the Empire preach against witches.
I'm not expecting the Emperor to make progress by using bureaucrats. I'm expecting him to make progress with priests.
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- Seattle
Bestboi pupper
TimEd
Meteor maker
You DO k ow this is Warhammer right? Nobody here is just human. There are influences (gods, chaos, nature etc) that see 'goodness' as weakness, and poince on that shit like any predator would pounce on wounded prey.
And Mages as part of the Empire is new even for human standards (since this is medieval times, anything less than 3 generations is brand new)
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
Appropriate, interesting, probably the safest option, and hilarious.
Will also probably result in a ton of Ranald favour, which would be nice, but not the reason I vote for this.
Appropriate, interesting, probably the safest option, and hilarious.
Will also probably result in a ton of Ranald favour, which would be nice, but not the reason I vote for this.
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- Africa
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
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Personally, I would prefer the "ranald gets it" option. Sudden powerups can mess up quests just as bad as sudden losses.