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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Regardless of any shiny chasing or hope of Ranald themed powerups - which I do not believe we will get - putting our faith in Ranald, who has stolen god power before and has always had our back, seems the most solid choice to me.
 
HeWhoAdds said:
I mean...

I'm not sure exactly how Liar would meaningfully affect us. We're already GREAT at lying. And Forgettable is arguably also a bonus in our line of work.
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It might make it harder for us to tell the truth.

"Mathilde, were you responsible for the explosion that took out 20% of the enemy forces?"
"What no, of course not! It was entirely unrelated to my scouting mission in their powder chamber."

BoneyM said:
What Ranald would or even could do with that power is entirely beyond Mathilde's knowledge.
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Inb4 Ranald tosses it back into Mathilde's hands and they start playing hot potato with uncontrollable greenskin power.
 
i mean lets be real, reaching out to Ranald in a situation like this is an expression of humility. Its looking at the shit going on and saying "I cant fix this alone"
Whereas the magister option is saying "NONONONO I GOT THIS I GOT THIS I AM TOTALLY IN CONTROL"
 
[X] You are Dwarf-friend and you bear upon your person a masterpiece developed by the oldest and wisest Runepriest of the Karaz Ankor. Try to destroy the energies.

I just want to see Kragg's reaction to what happened to the belt if we survive this.
 
Honestly if we do the Ranald option and it work then I can image every set of dice in the Empire, not the entire world, rolling the best possible result all at the same time.


[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
 
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.

This is the same Mathilde who ordered the entire Stirland Guard to enshrine Ragnald against all political sense after Van Hal's death. This is the most in-character option for Mathilde, given how the Quest has voted in the past.

Though I wonder what it would be like if we Crit Failed this roll with a 1. Something tells me we won't actually die, but rather accidentally create Karak Nine Peaks, get corrupted by Tzeentch and become a warp portal right at the heart of Karak Eight Nine Peaks, or some other similarly esoteric fate that is worse than death.
 
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Omegahugger said:
Inb4 Ranald tosses it back into Mathilde's hands and they start playing hot potato with uncontrollable greenskin power.
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You know, I don't regret being a wizard and I know that there was a zero percent chance of actually going for Ranald if we went started as a priest, but it's times like this that I really wonder how the quest would've gone if we were a priestess of best god.
 
veekie said:
I don't think anyone is going to give it to Ranald for the shinies. We give it to him because he got our backs in a lot of bullshit times and because we've been ridiculously lucky.
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And he failed us at Van Hal's bedside, and he almost got his (and our) ass kicked by a pirate god idol with a lot less juice than this one has.

But on the whole, he's been pretty good.
 
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.

I was initially terrified of the various options, but the subsequent discussion has been a joy to read, and now I am delighted.
 
[X] You are the justice of Mork, delivering swift death upon the heresy of Only Gork. Try to accept the energies.

- collecting the gods of cunning one at a time like PoKeMON! You're next Loec elven god of shadows!

[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
 
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[X] You are merely a human that has gotten in the middle of forces you cannot begin to understand. Try to survive the energies.
[X] You are a faithful of Ranald, being in the right place at the right time to unbalance the scales. Try to steal the energies.
[X] You are a Magister of the Grey Order, and follow the traditions laid down by Teclis and Magnus the Pious. Try to ground the energies.
 
DragonParadox said:
The Teclis/Colleges vote is legitimately sad to me, it feels like Stockholm Syndrome. Teclis did not care about us, even in the abstract, he handed the barbarians a few scraps of lore so they would better be able to gunk up the gears of Chaos with their blood, the Empire which the Colleges serve cares about us even less with most of its inhabitants holding us in open contempt even as it spends the lives of mages in its wars. The way I see if in terms of Mathilde's character the options that actually define a positive interaction are Ranald who came through for us time and again and the Dwarfs who honored her as a skilled craftsman and ally.
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I'm gonna need a citation for the thesis that the only elf in human history who gave enough of a shit to actually help humanity somehow didnt.
And as far as the hostility goes- fair. I mean it's not like being born with magic was a guarantee of being chaotic evil for literally all of human history, no, not at all, and said individuals being able to alter reality, fate, or human minds at whim isn't scary at all.

Besides, Warhammer is a death world, everyone fights in the Empire's wars, or everyone dies. No exceptions.
DragonParadox said:
Except it does not say our magic, it says Teclis and Colleges, this is a vote about trust and that option is trust in the system, the same one that has been treating Mathilde and indeed all other mages like pariahs.
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Ah yes. Providing a safe environment where wizards could live without fear of lynching, despite literally thousands of years of tradition is a classic hallmark of abuse.
 
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BoneyM said:
- A reminder - this is decades before the 'current' year of the game, so the familiar faces are not present - no Grimgor Ironhide, no Skarsnik, no Queek Headtake
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Okay I know this is really late, and someone may have already brought it up. But I've only just caught up to this part, and since this revolves around my favorite character in Warhammer I feel the need to make this comment.

Basically from what I can find Skarsnik is almost certainly around by the time of Belegar's expedition. From the lore I can find in Sixth, Belegar doesn't exist (I can't find any mention of him in either army book) and Skarsnik just gets a couple of sentences so I ignored them. In the seventh edition it just says that Skarsnik defeats a dwarven throng hoping to aid the trapped Belegar in 2498 (which is 20 and a bit years away by both this quests and canons timeline). Additionally from sevenths lore and factoring in a reasonable time period for the events surrounding Skarsniks rise to power, he's at the very least a boss or a young gobbo looking for his place in the world. In eighth (Definitely the books with the most amount of lore on the matter) Skarsnik is the warlord of the Crooked Moons and is responsible for trapping Belegar in Eight Peaks (though he might not have been warlord at the start)

This is not taking into account the Skarsniks novel/play despite its status as a 'true and compleat history'.

Do with this information as you will, ignore it, don't ignore it I don't care. I just had to get it off my chest.

Edit: Considering some of the responses, I think I should add I'm not fully caught up yet. At the time of this edit I've just read the first part of the battle for East Gates. When I first wrote this post I had just read the post I quoted.
 
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You know I was very divide on this vote, but since one of things I like needs no help winning may as well suport the other.

[X] You are the justice of Mork, delivering swift death upon the heresy of Only Gork. Try to accept the energies.

This whitout a dout the most hilariously interesting option, one of those one of a kind, never seen before and likely never seen again oportunities and the fact we likely won't be taking it fells almost criminal , but the thing that make this realy hilarious is how this is probably the safest option for us of then all, because Mork willing chose us as his agent, and acepting vast amounts of divine power sound like the safest thing to do with vast amounts of divine power when they are freely given.
 
unsolicited v3 said:
Okay I know this is really late, and someone may have already brought it up. But I've only just caught up to this part, and since this revolves around my favorite character in Warhammer I feel the need to make this comment.

Basically from what I can find Skarsnik is almost certainly around by the time of Belegar's expedition. From the lore I can find in Sixth, Belegar doesn't exist (I can't find any mention of him in either army book) and Skarsnik just gets a couple of sentences so I ignored them. In the seventh edition it just says that Skarsnik defeats a dwarven throng hoping to aid the trapped Belegar in 2498 (which is 20 and a bit years away by both this quests and canons timeline). Additionally from sevenths lore and factoring in a reasonable time period for the events surrounding Skarsniks rise to power, he's at the very least a boss or a young gobbo looking for his place in the world. In eighth (Definitely the books with the most amount of lore on the matter) Skarsnik is the warlord of the Crooked Moons and is responsible for trapping Belegar in Eight Peaks (though he might not have been warlord at the start)

This is not taking into account the Skarsniks novel/play despite its status as a 'true and compleat history'.

Do with this information as you will, ignore it, don't ignore it I don't care. I just had to get it off my chest.
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Well I mean he just got shacked so, meh.
 
Tealg said:
I'm gonna need a citation for the thesis that the only elf in human history who gave enough of a shit to actually help humanity somehow didnt.
And as far as the hostility goes- fair. I mean it's not like being born with magic was a guarantee of being chaotic evil for literally all of human history, no, not at all, and said individuals being able to alter reality, fate, or human minds at whim isn't scary at all.

Besides, Warhammer is a death world, everyone fights in the Empire's wars, or everyone dies. No exceptions.

Ah yes. Providing a safe environment where wizards could live without fear of lynching, despite literally thousands of years of tradition is a classic hallmark of abuse.
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  1. Teclis did not help humanity for its own sake but to stop Chaos, that is why he showed up on the eve of a Chaos invasion, taught primarily battle spells and then left to serve Ulthuan and do his owns studies again
  2. That's some lovely victim blaming you have there, 'it's not their fault they are persecuting us, their ancestors were hurt by Chaos sorcerers'. Mathilde is not responsible for the actions of Chaos sorcerers living or dead and should not have to take abuse because of it
  3. Yes, Warhammer is a death world everyone fights, but that does not mean everyone has to be a living weapon for a society that abused them, I would rather fight for the dwarfs than the Empire, because they treat Mathilde with honor and consideration
  4. Yes, I'm sure the crippling debt designed to have mages be living weapons for them for the rest of their lives has nothing to do with their 'generosity' in providing training
 
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