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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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spiritualatheist said:
Your example doesn't really work because policing in America is really fucking racist, so appearances matter less than skin color, unfortunately.

Regardless, let's save this argument for when it comes up for a vote, okay?
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Sounds fair but since our culture is also very biased, albiet rightly, against anything that may refer to slavery or enslavement it also applies.


But i can agree to drop it unless it comes to a vote or someone else starts it up again
 
Crake said:
How to grow an army who's ever bone is hatred and every breath is vengeance.
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Pretty much, I despise the things conceptually and I know this is fiction of fiction yet I'm still a bit mad about something that hasn't even not actually happened yet to someone I don't even not actually know because they're an individual soldier in my Legion.

They didn't fall, they were taken and that's gonna piss everyone off.
 
Deliste said:
Pretty much, I despise the things conceptually and I know this is fiction of fiction yet I'm still a bit mad about something that hasn't even not actually happened yet to someone I don't even not actually know because they're an individual soldier in my Legion.

They didn't fall, they were taken and that's gonna piss everyone off.
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We'll take a special pleasure in driving them extinct.

Actually, speaking of which... Wasn't there a spell for extinction?

I am perfectly happy to miss out on loot if we get to sidestep Frost Dragons.
 
I am unsure if it is possible but maybe gifting our soldiers a way to..... End it if they are taken like that might be a good investment. Some things are worse than death after all and having a way to give them a final "Fuck you" is something i would want.


If i am being dragged down by some deep one abomination i want to at least be able to die on my own terms preferably in a massive "Screw you, you're all coming with me" explosion.

At the very least a suicide pill for our inquisition seems smart, especially if we have it put into a false tooth.
 
Deliste said:
I choose abundance.

I make challenges of honorable combat for forfeiture, starting with currency and property working my way up to challenging sovereign lords for Right of Rule.


So if I conquer the Stepstones or Basilisk Isles where do the other island chains show up? Same question for continents.

If I become the rightful ruler of a million peasants, do I now have 3 million peasants?
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If you conquer a place, space warps so it's bigger on the inside, and your peasants only duplicate if you became their ruler though conquest, any place that voluntarily joined you wont be duplicated.

Also remember your blessing don't work on friendly challenges, it specifically multiplies loot from enemies, so while you can get the outcome of bets multiplied, it can only happen if they're not at all friendly.

That's the general limitation to the blessings, they work on loot from enemies, not on friendly bets or trade deals, so while they can activate on loot you got from a bet, they are unlikely to activate on a duel, where one of the permitted ways to win is not killing your opponent.
 
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@Crake, does this work as part of the vote?

—a serialized story from the perspective of a member of the Golden Shields, chronicling their life from the streets of Lannisport, their tutoring in magic and their willingness to swear fealty to Tywin, and then the betrayal of that loyalty when he binds with magic what should be freely given. The story then chronicles his misery at being forced into more and more heinous (and worse still, counterproductive) deeds by Tywin, culminating in his capture by agents of Viserys Targaryen and freeing at our hands. It ends with him gratefully swearing fealty to us. Special attention should be paid to making people empathize with him and then making the binding out to be as viscerally horrifying as possible (I'm thinking a scene of him trapped in his own body as he is forced to slaughter peasants would work well here). The objective is to make Tywin out to be as monstrous as possible and provoke outcry against his hiring practices.
 
Duesal said:
Maybe it would help to have tiny portraits for each legionnaire. I believe there is relatively cheap magic to make this, one that you found no less.

A portrait of the legionnaire with whatever relatives they've got, commissioned by the state on their initiation day, a copy for both the legionnaire and their family.

That should help, if only a little.
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Instant Portrait, DP should let us make it a family image instead of a singular creature, even if it's rounds/creature for casting time.
 
tarrangar said:
If you conquer a place, space warps so it's bigger on the inside, and your peasants only duplicate if you became their ruler though conquest, any place that voluntarily joined you wont be duplicated.

Also remember your blessing don't work on friendly challenges, it specifically multiplies loot from enemies, so while you can get the outcome of bets multiplied, it can only happen if they're not at all friendly.
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I'm taking their stuff, this won't be friendly.

Thanks for the clarification, I'm going to break Planetos.

...Is the moral choice to engineer wars I can win to inject resources into reality?

If I take granaries by right of conquest more people eat.
 
lockingbane said:
I am unsure if it is possible but maybe gifting our soldiers a way to..... End it if they are taken like that might be a good investment. Some things are worse than death after all and having a way to give them a final "Fuck you" is something i would want.


If i am being dragged down by some deep one abomination i want to at least be able to die on my own terms preferably in a massive "Screw you, you're all coming with me" explosion.

At the very least a suicide pill for our inquisition seems smart, especially if we have it put into a false tooth.
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The problem with this is the problem with all suicide options, there are enemies for which the lowest expenditure of effort would be convincing you that you'd lost.

Large scale illusion on the battlefield, every 14th Legionnaire blows up themselves as they are the last survivor. In reality they collectively suicide bomber their unit.
 
Deliste said:
I'm taking their stuff, this won't be friendly.

Thanks for the clarification, I'm going to break Planetos.

...Is the moral choice to engineer wars I can win to inject resources into reality?

If I take granaries by right of conquest more people eat.
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If you want to go full Chaotic Evil you can become a slaver, raid for people, and turn a person into cash and gear.
spiritualatheist said:
I bet we could make a ton of money with that. Photo booths, anyone?
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I applaud the opportunism, but the image is noted as too poor in quality to actually sell. :(
 
Goldfish said:
100,000 years in the future, archaeologists uncover thousands of our broadsheets, perfectly preserved and legible by anyone who looks at them despite being written in an unknown language...

Six months later, they are featured in an episode of Ancient Aliens.
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Duesal said:
Damn it, you guys got my hopes up earlier in the thread. I thought it was an actual thing we'd one day use against the Wisps. :(
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The spell for extinction was an OOTS creation (Familicide!) and not an actual D&D thing.
 
Duesal said:
I applaud the opportunism, but the image is noted as too poor in quality to actually sell. :(
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I forgot that line, which is annoyingly arbitrary because people will pay for a sketch in the modern day and this is a faithful representation during a time where they didn't have the artistic technique or the applied math to faithfully represent...well, anything really.

But also annoying because it makes for a poor gift, better to just use an at-will Fabrication item.

It's a large investment but it's for our Military institutions, we've made similar investments.

Highlt accurate etchings into a hardened Quartz plate or some other suitable material.
 
Deliste said:
I forgot that line, which is annoyingly arbitrary because people will pay for a sketch in the modern day and this is a faithful representation during a time where they didn't have the artistic technique or the applied math to faithfully represent...well, anything really.

But also annoying because it makes for a poor gift, better to just use an at-will Fabrication item.

It's a large investment but it's for our Military institutions, we've made similar investments.

Highlt accurate etchings into a hardened Quartz plate or some other suitable material.
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I believe there is a spell that makes an item Masterwork. We could just use that, though I can't seem to find it atm.
 
Deliste said:
The problem with this is the problem with all suicide options, there are enemies for which the lowest expenditure of effort would be convincing you that you'd lost.

Large scale illusion on the battlefield, every 14th Legionnaire blows up themselves as they are the last survivor. In reality they collectively suicide bomber their unit.
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Hmm, maybe put the option in with our super soldier program. Add in an at will self destruct option that destroys their body utterly and does a shit ton of damage to anything nearby.

It would be designed as a mutual destruction deal used only if they knew they are going to die and desire to ensure they at least do some damage going down.
 
lockingbane said:
Hmm, maybe put the option in with our super soldier program. Add in an at will self destruct option that destroys their body utterly and does a shit ton of damage to anything nearby.

It would be designed as a mutual destruction deal used only if they knew they are going to die and desire to ensure they at least do some damage going down.
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It's going to be a very rare circumstance where it would be appropriate to use, even when it is appropriate it will be rare for it to be impactful and all the time you have it these are resources not being put to being alive better rather than being dead more spitefully.

Even the creatures that have this ability in the MMs just have the ability inherently, they didn't actively put resources towards doing so.
 
Deliste said:
It's going to be a very rare circumstance where it would be appropriate to use, even when it is appropriate it will be rare for it to be impactful and all the time you have it these are resources not being put to being alive better rather than being dead more spitefully.

Even the creatures that have this ability in the MMs just have the ability inherently, they didn't actively put resources towards doing so.
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It is partly a denial of resources in the form of a super soldier corpse to study and learn the weakpoints of and just general denial of assets, partly a way to ensure that they can avoid being taken alive (so many things are much worse than death), and lastly a way to bloody the nose of whatever is killing them and drawing attention via the large boom.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
The spell for extinction was an OOTS creation (Familicide!) and not an actual D&D thing.
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Yeah, I remember that strip--pretty sure most of us do.

Though it was first (jokingly) brought up in thread as a Nethack reference. Then I stopped making that joke when everyone started getting nervous about the G word. 😬
 
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