Littlefinger is not a mage as far as Viserys saw of him.
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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Littlefinger is not a mage as far as Viserys saw of him.
- Location
- Australia
Considering you can try without anyone being able to tell you tried even a magic item would do, CL is a "nice to have" in that scenario.
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- florida
Mmm, well no convincing you then.
I will gaurentee you are wrong about that though. This city is way too much of a fucking mess to not be wrapped six ways to Sunday in conspiracy's.
Even the unsullied had their god.
Edit: yeah alright I'm clearly not winning any favors here forget it.
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egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
Thing is, keeping our own operation successfully running is the priority here, not coming into contact with any and all who also don't like Efreeti.
Sure, we may find some allies...
Bit at this point we already invested too much resources into this to just let it be discovered by chance.
And various gods, especially R'hlor, aren't allies to us in this place.
Our own agenda take a precedence as far as I'm concerned.
And they'll gladly exploit us if they get a chance, I'm pretty sure.
So no, fuck that.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Oh, I'm sure there are conspiracies. The problem is that the Efreeti have a High Magic empire, and have maintained it for countless millennia. They know how to keep their slaves in line and aren't shy about using every available tactics to do so.Mmm, well no convincing you then.
I will gaurentee you are wrong about that though. This city is way too much of a fucking mess to not be wrapped six ways to Sunday in conspiracy's.
Even the unsullied had their god.
Edit: yeah alright I'm clearly not winning any favors here forget it.
I'm not opposed to raising the girl at some point, it's just that our mission here is too important to risk over sentimentality. If we succeed, at the very least the Efreeti will be dealt a crippling blow. If things work out well, their empire might be destroyed.
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- Australia
So isn't it curious that the Red Prick seemingly has a following in the planes?
Did he have power flowing into Planetos during the split, was he one of the few bridges? He is greedy enough to have kept his mouth shut.
Or was the god himself split, one half operating in Planetos the other in the Planes? Can they reconcile with each other?
Did he have power flowing into Planetos during the split, was he one of the few bridges? He is greedy enough to have kept his mouth shut.
Or was the god himself split, one half operating in Planetos the other in the Planes? Can they reconcile with each other?
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
@Goldfish, could you please explain, where do these "+6 +6" come from on Viserys' Sheet?
I'm trying to find the biggest combination of bullshit we can pull to summon Rakshasa if there's need again.
Also, what about that Ruin Delver's Fortune item you wanted?
Also, what are those buffs, again?
I'm trying to find the biggest combination of bullshit we can pull to summon Rakshasa if there's need again.
Also, what about that Ruin Delver's Fortune item you wanted?
- Location
- France
She is apparently Ghiscari. The City of Brass is apparently buying human slaves from Slaver's Bay.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
Channel Vigor.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
+6 comes from his Wisdom bonus and another +6 from Channel Vigor.
Ruin Delver's Fortune is still something I would like on an item for sheer utility, but Viserys already has some good options to spend his Immediate Actions on for defensive purposes, such as Nine Lives.
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- florida
I am vaguely curious about this however.
Why do you think Rhllor is pissed at us? Given the last we heard from his was in... Gosh the first time we hit Lys?
And now we're reforming his religion, building temples, allying with his chosen, and oh yeah, A bunch of his worshippers think we're the Messiah.
He's basically been content to let us do... Pretty much whatever the hell we want, why do you think he's going to pop out and go "you fool, it was me, R'hllor the red all along!"
We're basically doing all the hard messy work of dragging his religion into the modern world for him, and you think he'll want to kill us?
I do not understand.
@Goldfish the sympathetic approach is dead and this thread killed it
.(Also were totally forgetting about her. Like cloak child, and that one lady who we kept on the shelf for three months.)
Just like, don't be afraid to chase leads when they show up?
We're here to get info, not actually set up a store.
Better to have to break camp with info than to just have camp sit here doing nothing.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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- Russia
My point was less about "R'hlor is bad and is trying to set us up here!1!!", and more
"Every god has it's own agenda. With an exception of few gods we have at SD, we can't be sure about any god, good or evil, and so coming into contact with them and their plans while we're in the middle of really important intrigue is a very bad idea".
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Don't let us forget then.I am vaguely curious about this however.
Why do you think Rhllor is pissed at us? Given the last we heard from his was in... Gosh the first time we hit Lys?
And now we're reforming his religion, building temples, allying with his chosen, and oh yeah, A bunch of his worshippers think we're the Messiah.
He's basically been content to let us do... Pretty much whatever the hell we want, why do you think he's going to pop out and go "you fool, it was me, R'hllor the red all along!"
We're basically doing all the hard messy work of dragging his religion into the modern world for him, and you think he'll want to kill us?
I do not understand.
@Goldfish the sympathetic approach is dead and this thread killed it
(Also were totally forgetting about her. Like cloak child, and that one lady who we kept on the shelf for three months.)
Just like, don't be afraid to chase leads when they show up?
We're here to get info, not actually set up a store.
Better to have to break camp with info than to just have camp sit here doing nothing.
The store is here as a front for information gathering, making criminal contacts, infiltration of agents into the city, etc. It's also been a huge investment in time and resources. We're not going to burn all of that for some minor rumors or a bit of info about a petty conspiracy the Efreeti already know about and have likely suborned.
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- Philippines
(insomuch as that's a joke), I feel less desire to go to PoW
Laaaame!
How about finally moving against Tiamat then? In both Material and Shadow Planes? Tor is on a standby.
[X] Goldfish
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Oh, I'll be really glad to...
But without Azel, I have no idea what strategic goals we have right now and where to target first
For real tho, first we're researching the Worm and making Snare for Tiamat, the attack itself will take much less time than that.
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- florida
Fair, and also fair @egoo
Just seems like a waste to let the plot hook pass us by.
Also @egoo Yss and the old God's have agendas, as does the moon maiden and others. We just know what they are and how to use them.
That we basically don't know shit about Rhllor or the seven want or are doing upsets me quite a bit.
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- Germany
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- He/Him
I find it more curious that there are already Planetos-originating slaves around.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
So... Here's what I got.
Viserys' 'base' Willsave = 11 (+1 against Evil, +1 against Necromancy) +6 Competence (Channel Vigor: Spirit) + 6 (Wisdom) +6 (don't know from where, really, but it's on the sheet) + 10 (Dany's Persistomancy)+1d6 (Mythic Surge) = 39(41)+1d6 'base' will save.
+ Nine Lives (reroll on a fail) + Alter Fortune by an ally (reroll on a fail)
+ Mindblank (Immunity to all mind-affecting spells and effects) + Soulfire Mithral Bracers (immunity to all death spells, magical death effects, and energy drain, and any negative energy effects)
What we can do to increase that:
+ 11 Luck (Ruin Delver's Fortune – equal to Charisma modifier)
+ 8 Circumstance (item of Thought Shield III (Psychic 4, Abjuration)
+ 23 Insight (Moment of Prescience - equal to CL)
+ Plant Body spell (Immunity to Mind-affecting)
In the end, with an ideal set-up, we seem to be getting something like this:
81(83)+1d6 Will save at least, with minimum of 2 rerolls, and the following things set up to save us if we fail at that:
75% chance to break the effect on Viserys upon failed save – Crown is destroyed
33% chance to break the effect on Viserys upon failed save – Soulfire Bracers are destroyed
5% chance to break the effect on Viserys upon failed save – PfE amulet is destroyed
@DragonParadox, I assume that Plant Body will provide the same effect as Crown of Conqueror, as in - getting 75% chance of stopping Bloodstone Emperor's attack but being destroyed in process?
Also, you said that "If you did not have a Mind Blank crown the save for not having your soul ripped out of your body would have been much worse".
Would Plant Body and item of Thought Shield lower such save even further as well?
With a minimun of 81(83)+1d6 will save, I daresay, that summoning Rakshasa will be on the table.
Just not to the point where Bloodstone Emperor will pour all divine Mojo he has into making that attack have some bullshit like 100+ save needed.
And we'll probably want to do so in a temple of Yss or near a weirwood just to be sure anyway, since losing our items is not a choice.
Viserys' 'base' Willsave = 11 (+1 against Evil, +1 against Necromancy) +6 Competence (Channel Vigor: Spirit) + 6 (Wisdom) +6 (don't know from where, really, but it's on the sheet) + 10 (Dany's Persistomancy)+1d6 (Mythic Surge) = 39(41)+1d6 'base' will save.
+ Nine Lives (reroll on a fail) + Alter Fortune by an ally (reroll on a fail)
+ Mindblank (Immunity to all mind-affecting spells and effects) + Soulfire Mithral Bracers (immunity to all death spells, magical death effects, and energy drain, and any negative energy effects)
What we can do to increase that:
+ 11 Luck (Ruin Delver's Fortune – equal to Charisma modifier)
+ 8 Circumstance (item of Thought Shield III (Psychic 4, Abjuration)
+ 23 Insight (Moment of Prescience - equal to CL)
+ Plant Body spell (Immunity to Mind-affecting)
In the end, with an ideal set-up, we seem to be getting something like this:
81(83)+1d6 Will save at least, with minimum of 2 rerolls, and the following things set up to save us if we fail at that:
75% chance to break the effect on Viserys upon failed save – Crown is destroyed
33% chance to break the effect on Viserys upon failed save – Soulfire Bracers are destroyed
5% chance to break the effect on Viserys upon failed save – PfE amulet is destroyed
@DragonParadox, I assume that Plant Body will provide the same effect as Crown of Conqueror, as in - getting 75% chance of stopping Bloodstone Emperor's attack but being destroyed in process?
Also, you said that "If you did not have a Mind Blank crown the save for not having your soul ripped out of your body would have been much worse".
Would Plant Body and item of Thought Shield lower such save even further as well?
With a minimun of 81(83)+1d6 will save, I daresay, that summoning Rakshasa will be on the table.
Just not to the point where Bloodstone Emperor will pour all divine Mojo he has into making that attack have some bullshit like 100+ save needed.
And we'll probably want to do so in a temple of Yss or near a weirwood just to be sure anyway, since losing our items is not a choice.
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- florida
Yeah this is a problem.
Most everyone in planetos has our deets, which means the brass jackass can as well.
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
- Location
- Russia
Side note, I'm very interested in trading with Gith now, since so damn many [] items are psionic-only and we can't craft them ourselves.
@Goldfish, the moment we'll have an item of Ruin Delver's Fortune my paranoia will be more-or-less satiated, but I'll be fully assured in Viserys being safe only with that Though Shield III Item
] items are psionic-only and we can't craft them ourselves.@Goldfish, the moment we'll have an item of Ruin Delver's Fortune my paranoia will be more-or-less satiated, but I'll be fully assured in Viserys being safe only with that Though Shield III Item
- Location
- United States
Granted, this method of summoning isn't normal, it's ripping them from whatever twisted cycle their trapped in. This isn't sacrifice gathering, this is minion gathering. Not that I mind. Rakshasa minions would be wonderful. I've been eyeing a Tataka Rakshasa.
No, since it's not a conceptual defense.
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[X] Goldfish