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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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TotallyNotEvil said:
I'm pretty sure Mammon will show up with some Proof Against Transmutation gear.
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...At that point when we are seriously considering capturing his avatar and sacrificing it, I think even Disjunction wouldn't be too bad of a choice for us.
Hell, I'm pretty sure we'd have to have a scroll of it on us for that fight. Multiple ones, even.
 
When we fight Mammon again I nominate Waymar as the bait. He did excellently last time. And Amrelath can be the accompanying meat shield.
 
What I'm really torn about, is that we actually want for him to stay in power - or our personal clause in Pact Primeval suddenly gets outdated :/
I don't realy think there's any chance of us subvering him either :sour:

But I so want to kill his avatar again! :mad:
And all his subordinates!
But every time we succeed means less time for him on the throne!
Bwaaaaaaah!
 
egoo said:
What I'm really torn about, is that we actually want for him to stay in power - or our personal clause in Pact Primeval suddenly gets outdated :/
I don't realy think there's any chance of us subvering him either :sour:

But I so want to kill his avatar again! :mad:
And all his subordinates!
But every time we succeed means less time for him on the throne!
Bwaaaaaaah!
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Just milk him for all he's worth. If we sit back too much then Asmodeus is going to make his move and replace Mammon.
 
egoo said:
...At that point when we are seriously considering capturing his avatar and sacrificing it, I think even Disjunction wouldn't be too bad of a choice for us.
Hell, I'm pretty sure we'd have to have a scroll of it on us for that fight. Multiple ones, even.
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We will have that 9th level turbo Spell Reflection spell, I think it was Elmister something Spheres? It allows to absorb and negate any spell up to 9 spells levels worth? Or something like that.

There's also spell immunity, blanket immunity to polymorph effects and other goodies.

Speaking of which, I was wondering what's going on with the lack of enemies with polymorph immunities. I mean, fighting against them all the time would get tiresome really quick, but most of those that can resist our turtle beam did so with magic items or spells. I thought polymorph immunities were really common at higher levels?
 
Duesal said:
@Goldfish, I've got a crafting request. Can we make a Greater Rod of Merciful Spell? It would cost us 1225 IM to craft (6.125 unmodified crafting days), but it'd be very much worth it in the long run. We wouldn't need to use Ancestral Awakening whenever we need to capture something, and we could reserve the spell for more urgent uses.
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Unfortunately, the Greater rod has a caster level of 17th and requires the crafter to know the Merciful Spell.

The Familiar Rod @Azel wants has similar requirements. Maybe DP will be lenient with the prereqs like he has been with caster level for magic weapons and armor?
 
Goldfish said:
Unfortunately, the Greater rod has a caster level of 17th and requires the crafter to know the Merciful Spell.

The Familiar Rod @Azel wants has similar requirements. Maybe DP will be lenient with the prereqs like he has been with caster level for magic weapons and armor?
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For the spells and feats DP has always allowed us to provide them from outside sources. Merciful Spell can be provided by Wyla Drekelis upon special request from us.

Fair enough on needing Lya to level up, though. I'll bring it up next level.
 
Duesal said:
@Goldfish, I've got a crafting request. Can we make a Greater Rod of Merciful Spell? It would cost us 1225 IM to craft (6.125 unmodified crafting days), but it'd be very much worth it in the long run. We wouldn't need to use Ancestral Awakening whenever we need to capture something, and we could reserve the spell for more urgent uses.
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@Goldfish, I'm seconding that notion. In fact, with how cheap they are, I would make a second one for Rina since she too has a bunch of blasting. Heck, even Dany and Lya could greatly profit from this.

@TotallyNotEvil, could Waymar use these rods to do non-lethal Nova attacks?

Also, @Goldfish, Lya should really learn Righteous Smite next turn. That spell is awesome for her.
 
ryuan said:
We will have that 9th level turbo Spell Reflection spell, I think it was Elmister something Spheres? It allows to absorb and negate any spell up to 9 spells levels worth? Or something like that.

There's also spell immunity, blanket immunity to polymorph effects and other goodies.

Speaking of which, I was wondering what's going on with the lack of enemies with polymorph immunities. I mean, fighting against them all the time would get tiresome really quick, but most of those that can resist our turtle beam did so with magic items or spells. I thought polymorph immunities were really common at higher levels?
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You mean Elminster's Effulgent Epuration? Yeah, it's nice IIRC.

We've been running into a ton of Polymorph immune enemies for a while now. Undead are all immune by default, and Beads of Newt Prevention have become distressingly common.
 
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Azel said:
The other one I've got my eyes on is the Persistent Spell one. Mind you, the Patherfinder Metamagic has the same name as the 3.5 one, but a wholly different effect, namely that you have to save twice against a spell.

Leading to:

Mammon: "At last! We meet again! And this time it shall be your skin that will make a cloak!"
Viserys: "Then let us begin... turtle lord."
Mammon: :mad:
Viserys: "I cast Persistent Baleful Polymorph as a Swift Action."
Mammon: "Bah. I have pearls for days!" *burns one*
Viserys: "Persistent. You need two."
Mammon: *grumbles and burns another one*
Viserys: "Fine then. Now I cast Stilled Persistent Baleful Polymorph as a Standard Action!"
Mammon: "Argh... fuck you Targaryen!" *burns another two* "At least you are--"
Viserys: "Not done yet! Celerity! Stilled Persistent Baleful Polymorph! :V"
Mammon: *burns last two pearls* :jackiechan:
Viserys: :V
Mammon: "Doesn't matter. I'm out of pearls, but you are out of time!"
Varys: "Baleful Polymorph! :V :V :V"
Mammon: :o *rolls nat 1* :confused: *is turtle*
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Missing use of Greater Arcane Fusion. Sad! :V

And I will stop helicopter parenting Rhaella around the point that she no longer needs it. That being level 17, when she gets access to Song of Timelessness. Or level 20 when she gets the ability to whistle up a spiritual reflection of Syrax-The-Mortal :p

More seriously, best of both worlds is fine with me.

[X] Goldfish
 
If we get hardened slips of paper with Propoganda printed by the thousands with true speech on them What does everyone want to say?
Id like to give helpful and true information about devils and useful tips against them.
Some info on the others would be nice too.
 
@Azel You know, even prior to getting a Familiar Spell Metamagic Rod, we could use Ancestral Awakening to give Varys a few spells, though it would reduce Viserys' daily spell slots slightly until she uses the spells.

Just using it to give her a Shield spell and a Mirror Image spell would be a nice boost to her combat effectiveness. I wouldn't want it to be a constant thing, but Viserys could make do with one less 4th and 5th level spell should Varys be needed to engage in combat on an upcoming mission.
 
Azel said:
@Goldfish, please add that we have brought other people back from the dead in the past and will do so again in the future. The Reds will go apeshit over that tidbit and redouble their conviction that we are the messiah.
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Plan updated.

[X] Plan Having Our Cake and Eating it, Too.
-[X] Admit that we brought her back, as some powerful mages Resurrect willing souls from the dead. In markets like Embra's home you can even buy scrolls to allow lesser mages to do it.
-[X] It is, strange as it may seem, no greater miracle than any other work of magic and does not require any particular price besides very expensive gems. We have made use of such magics several times in the past, to no ill effect.
-[X] Despite admitting the truth, use the various methods of spreading propaganda available to us to disseminate the following rumor: Rhaella's return is clearly a miracle granted by the Mother, both for her heartfelt desire to return to her children and as a favor bestowed by the Seven on Viserys Targaryen to dispel the vicious rumors and godless hatred leveled at him by those parts of the Faith that have taken to preach with Lannister gold instead of the Seven Pointed Star.
 
Goldfish said:
@Azel You know, even prior to getting a Familiar Spell Metamagic Rod, we could use Ancestral Awakening to give Varys a few spells, though it would reduce Viserys' daily spell slots slightly until she uses the spells.

Just using it to give her a Shield spell and a Mirror Image spell would be a nice boost to her combat effectiveness. I wouldn't want it to be a constant thing, but Viserys could make do with one less 4th and 5th level spell should Varys be needed to engage in combat on an upcoming mission.
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If you are peachy with using the Ancestral Awakening of the day for that, I'm all for it. Varys being easily the power of a mid-level PC makes her tremendously effective with that Metamagic.

Shame we don't have Ironskin or the like to imbue her with.
 
Azel said:
If you are peachy with using the Ancestral Awakening of the day for that, I'm all for it. Varys being easily the power of a mid-level PC makes her tremendously effective with that Metamagic.

Shame we don't have Ironskin or the like to imbue her with.
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Funny that you mention that. Ironskin is actually one of the PoSK being crafted for Viserys next month.

Ancestral Awakening could be used for it weeks ahead of time. The spells granted by Familiar Spell stay with the Familiar until used, even weeks or months later.
 
Snowfire said:
Missing use of Greater Arcane Fusion. Sad! :V

And I will stop helicopter parenting Rhaella around the point that she no longer needs it. That being level 17, when she gets access to Song of Timelessness. Or level 20 when she gets the ability to whistle up a spiritual reflection of Syrax-The-Mortal :p

More seriously, best of both worlds is fine with me.

[X] Goldfish
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Ah yes. Mainlining Attack God. Timeless classic.
 
Azel said:
You mean Viserys or Varys?

Also, @Goldfish, how about Disintegrate or Destruction payloads for the Beetle Bombs?
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Those would be problematic; expensive to create, requiring actual crafting time in addition to the Beetle Bombs themselves, and of only middling effectiveness. The spells would be cast at minimum level and have the minimum saving throw DC.

I was thinking about a different Wyvern Launcher munition. Incendiary Catalyst is something we've started producing in smallish quantities. A target hit with the stuff takes double damage from Fire effects.

A strafing run to paint targets with Incendiary Catalyst followed by a salvo of Alchemist's Fire loaded Beetle Bombs would be extremely effective against the Others, their minions, and other Cold subtype creatures.

EDIT: My mistake, the stuff only increases damage by 50% and doesn't stack with Vulnerability to Fire.
 
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