A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

egoo · Mar 22, 2019

DragonParadox said:
Baelys of Dragonstone vs Aemon Naremos -> Aemon Naremos

Aww

That Volantine bastard takes away the glory well-deserved by honorable Scholarum flamethrower!
HATE

DragonParadox said:
Anya of Sorcerer's Deep vs Valaena Velaryon -> Anya of Sorcerer's Deep

Huh.
"Inquisition, we'll fuck you up whether you are a fighter or a mage"

DragonParadox said:
Ceria Storm vs Moonsong -> Moonsong

rofl:

rofl:
Moonsong just keep going.
Is that the infamous riot-vote?
She feels like the result of one

Azel · Mar 22, 2019

DragonParadox said:
Anya of Sorcerer's Deep vs Valaena Velaryon -> Anya of Sorcerer's Deep

Notes: This is the big one, Anya managed to shackle Valaena's hands with manacles and proceeded to wraithstrike her down only for Valaena to dispel her manacles and then hits Anya with enfeebling ray such thatbarely able to lift her sword. Howver she does manage to pull off a second set of manacles back on which Valaena can't dispel by margin of two points. She tries to burst them but just does not have the strength so yields

What.

DragonParadox · Mar 22, 2019

Snowfire said:
Why dispel instead of use attack spells?

I ruled that she could not fine-tune a fireball spell well enough to hit Anya and not her and she did not want to win badly enough to blow one or more fireballs in her own face
Combust and flaming grasp needed a touch attack which she could not make with her hands behind her back
Stone discus did not have the damage

Duesal · Mar 22, 2019

Bravo to Anya!

tarrangar · Mar 22, 2019

Takesis said:
Funny as this is, no. This doesn't make sense. Also I disagree with @Duesal's proposal with raising the Targaryen dragons just to be given to someone with Valyrian blood. So can we have a vote if we do it or not? You don't raise 17+ murdermachine cats and just hope it will bond with someone who looks like you. If we raise them, it has to be Targaryens that will ride them.

[X] Azel

Personally I don't want to raise them to ride them, I want to raise them, so we can grow dragon-hide with a sympathetic link to them with fungal pods, fire resistant dragon-hide can be sold for a huge profit on the planar market, but we haven't yet figured out, how to sever the sympathetic link, to the dragon who donated the seed we are growing it from, which mean we can't just grow our own hide in fungal pods to sell, as that would give anyone who got ahold of any the, opportunity to curse us, if we use any of our Valyrian dragons, then those dragons become vulnerable to curses, so it's best to grow hide from a Valyrian dragon we don't care about.

Goldfish · Mar 22, 2019

DragonParadox said:
I ruled that she could not fine-tune a fireball spell well enough to hit Anya and not her and she did not want to win badly enough to blow one or more fireballs in her own face

Combust and flaming grasp needed a touch attack which she could not make with her hands behind her back

Stone discus did not have the damage

8d6 from Stone Discus would be just as good as a Fireball.

Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of Anya, but Valaena losing that one is hard to parse.

Not a big deal. Just makes me wish I had been making all the tactical decisions for my favorites.

Azel · Mar 22, 2019

Goldfish said:
Valaena could have used her Bracers to cast Stilled spells, even while Shackled.

I must admit that I gave DP a rough strategy for Anya, since I didn't want her to loose without fanfare on the second spell. I did point this out too.

Though, honestly, I expected either Valaena to make her save or blowing Anya away with a Fireball that Valaene could have comfortably survived while Anya was likely quite a few HP down by this point already.

I expected a decent showing, not a win.

chryssalideater · Mar 22, 2019

First of all @Azel congratulations, she deserves it.

Secondly this isn't related to anything going on right now, just a thought that's been in the back of my mind for a while.

Ever since we got that sacrifice deal with the old gods, things have been going really well. Sacrifice high level enemy, gain massive power, prevent them from respawning in hell I think? All the usual benefits of blood sacrifice without the nasty ethical downsides. There's a pretty large supply of demons too, so no worries about running out.

...it kind of seems way too easy, and I'm worried that its going to bite us in the ass old valaria style. I'm sure most people are familiar with the expression "you are what you eat."

Well, the old gods are somewhat of a hivemind, and we've been feeding them a whole lot of demonic souls where before they were usually human or animal.

Are we sure that's healthy? I've got this worried idea about corruption/rot from the inside but I have no idea how grounded or realistic it is.

@DragonParadox anything you can share?

Azel · Mar 22, 2019

Goldfish said:
8d6 from Stone Discus would be just as good as a Fireball.

Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of Anya, but Valaena losing that one is hard to parse.

Not a big deal. Just makes me wish I had been making all the tactical decisions for my favorites.

Stone Discus needs a Ranged Attack though, so I doubt you can aim it while having your hands shackled behind your back.

It would have been a good alternative to Ray of Enfeeblement though.

DragonParadox · Mar 22, 2019

Goldfish said:
8d6 from Stone Discus would be just as good as a Fireball.

Oh right she gets two of those. Sill those have to hit though Anya's buff enhanced armor (since they both gave each other time o buff before the fight) I'm going to say she goes for the dispels, those have good odds and if they work she has a lot more options.

Azel · Mar 22, 2019

@Goldfish, fair is fair, I will refrain from giving any tips for Anya in the future matches, unless you are fine with it and give the same for Mia.

Duesal · Mar 22, 2019

chryssalideater said:
First of all @Azel congratulations, she deserves it.

Secondly this isn't related to anything going on right now, just a thought that's been in the back of my mind for a while.

Ever since we got that sacrifice deal with the old gods, things have been going really well. Sacrifice high level enemy, gain massive power, prevent them from respawning in hell I think? All the usual benefits of blood sacrifice without the nasty ethical downsides. There's a pretty large supply of demons too, so no worries about running out.

...it kind of seems way too easy, and I'm worried that its going to bite us in the ass old valaria style. I'm sure most people are familiar with the expression "you are what you eat."

Well, the old gods are somewhat of a hivemind, and we've been feeding them a whole lot of demonic souls where before they were usually human or animal.

Are we sure that's healthy? I've got this worried idea about corruption/rot from the inside but I have no idea how grounded or realistic it is.

@DragonParadox anything you can share?

We covered this a short while ago. Sacrificing to a god makes them more of themselves, where as worshipping a god changes them according to how they're worshipped. This is why the Old Gods haven't changed in millennia, and still aren't quite the gods of men.

Sacrifice is the gods seizing the power and making it their own. It is not a surprise!corruption route for the gods themselves. Otherwise we would have gotten a warning from Bloodraven very long ago.

Goldfish · Mar 22, 2019

Azel said:
@Goldfish, fair is fair, I will refrain from giving any tips for Anya in the future matches, unless you are fine with it and give the same for Mia.

It's best that I'm not involved at all, or I would be sending DP combat plans for everyone I favor.

TotallyNotEvil · Mar 22, 2019

And yet more Wraithstrikes *sigh*

How the hell did the manacle Valeana? Twice?

chryssalideater · Mar 22, 2019

Duesal said:
We covered this a short while ago. Sacrificing to a god makes them more of themselves, where as worshipping a god changes them according to how they're worshipped. This is why the Old Gods haven't changed in millennia, and still aren't quite the gods of men.

Sacrifice is the gods seizing the power and making it their own. It is not a surprise!corruption route for the gods themselves. Otherwise we would have gotten a warning from Bloodraven very long ago.

Oh good to know.

...man we are going to stomp.

DragonParadox · Mar 22, 2019

chryssalideater said:
Well, the old gods are somewhat of a hivemind, and we've been feeding them a whole lot of demonic souls where before they were usually human or animal.

Are we sure that's healthy? I've got this worried idea about corruption/rot from the inside but I have no idea how grounded or realistic it is.

@DragonParadox anything you can share?

They do not eat souls, unless like with the genius loci they let the soul in to the green-dream. They eat life/the animus/Qi (if you are a monk). Once long long a go they ate a lot of undead and even Others and it worked out fine.

Duesal · Mar 22, 2019

DragonParadox said:
They do not eat souls, unless like with the genius loci they let the soul in to the green-dream. They eat life/the animus/Qi (if you are a monk). Once long long a go they ate a lot of undead and even Others and it worked out fine.

@DragonParadox, would Bloodraven happen to have knowledge of what the Others are? As in, could he give us enough information to point us to the CR and Mythic Tier of the average other?

Azel · Mar 22, 2019

Goldfish said:
It's best that I'm not involved at all, or I would be sending DP combat plans for everyone I favor.

Well, I do the same, it's just that I only have one horse in the race.

Kinda hoping for either a Mia vs Anya finale or having their fight be for the 3rd place.

TotallyNotEvil said:
And yet more Wraithstrikes *sigh*

How the hell did the manacle Valeana? Twice?

There is a spell for that.

DragonParadox · Mar 22, 2019

TotallyNotEvil said:
And yet more Wraithstrikes *sigh*

How the hell did the manacle Valeana? Twice?

Reflex is her lowest save and she rolled poorly.

T_of_A · Mar 22, 2019

Think of things this way: Valaena just showed the world she was a badass by winning the other bracket. And now she gets taken down (manacled!) by an Inquisitorial goon.
That's good PR for our Institutions if I've ever seen it.

TotallyNotEvil · Mar 22, 2019

So, couldn't Valaene use a swift action to Anklets out of the manacles, and proceed to lay down the hurt?

Snowfire · Mar 22, 2019

TalonofAnathrax said:
Think of things this way: Valaena just showed the world she was a badass by winning the other bracket. And now she gets taken down (manacled!) by an Inquisitorial goon.
That's good PR for our Institutions if I've ever seen it.

Except everyone watching with a lick of knowledge is going to see that she was fighting inefficiently. I expect Anya did, and is probably less happy about her victory than she would be. In a to-the-death fight, Valaena would have blown a fireball in her face if she'd had to.

Artemis1992 · Mar 22, 2019

TalonofAnathrax said:
Think of things this way: Valaena just showed the world she was a badass by winning the other bracket. And now she gets taken down (manacled!) by an Inquisitorial goon.
That's good PR for our Institutions if I've ever seen it.

Now I'm contractually obliged to hope for the outsider to our empire or the barely-controlled glory-seeker Fey.

Snowfire · Mar 22, 2019

And just a final point here, @DragonParadox

Touch attacks do not require hands. You can make one with your forehead, if all else fails.

DragonParadox · Mar 22, 2019

TotallyNotEvil said:
So, couldn't Valaene use a swift action to Anklets out of the manacles, and proceed to lay down the hurt?

No,they were 'equipped' it would be like trying to use the anklets to take off her gloves, that is not what they are for.

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