Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Security AI is next, yeah. Need to see what our options are next turn.
Super Robot Quest
- Thread starter Basarin
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Security AI is next, yeah. Need to see what our options are next turn.
...you SURE about taking the cheapest Air Force investigation? 2d6 Disadvantage is pretty bad.
GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
Now I wish we'd taken the automatic success...
Ooo, looks like an Armor Break ability.
...we have level headed individuals in this base?
The opposition to it was always pretty incomprehensible. Its for low dice hard stuff too important to risk failing. We go for expanded research fields on big advantaged dice, so it was never competing to begin with
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Yay, we got that! I need to write an omake at some point. Speaking of: @Basarin , how expensive would it be to fabricate mech-sized weapons for the main SR? I mean stuff like pilebunkers, clubs and such. Ideas for an omake I had.
You should watch more shows. The boss is always the strongest, or most skilled.
Don't they have parties the Kausen too?
No-one noticed the lack of drivers?
Reminder we still need to ask Kausen about their physiology, what other species have met and such. They told us zilch!
One of these two is a must.
He really wants improved tanks if he's coming in person.
Ooh, grenades! For mechs!
Why the Theater? We barely have enough pilots and the tank will be "piloted" by Banner. What about using the 6 RP to finish the Beowulf's final transformation mode? Or building the Steed and experiment combinations with the Pilum? I'll make another plan later.
Not enough IMO. We ought ot ask help.
This one should be replaced by the cheaper version. The showman approach actually failed partially.
Bandwagons don't listen to sense.
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Here it is. I have to leave for work so I'll be busy.
[x] Plan Beowulf's 69.99 $ Collector Edition's Day 1 Patch (game not included)
-[X] Super Robot Construction: Steed Prototype (2 RP)
--[x] Theoretical combination of the Pilum and the Steed. Do they blend?
-[X] Building a Seeker (3 RP)
--[X] Streamlined Resource Flow (+1 RP saved)
-[x] San-Ki Gattai / Triple Combination (4 RP)
-[X] Moderate Precautions. (1 RP)
--[X] Katarina and Diana's Support
-[x] Try to turn him. The only question is how. Or with who, specifically. All options will cost the same.
--[x] Ichiro. A 'native-born' Kaus could have an interesting outcome when talking with Zulu. (2 RP)
-[x] By now, you've learned that commanders are incredibly busy people (you would know from personal experience!). Keep it nice and simple. Show him the Centurion's capabilities at the Proving Grounds as is, its highlights and its drawbacks, and let him decide. (1 RP)
-[x] Security!!! (2 RP)
-[X] Ivanna's Support on Kaiju Biotechnology - Medium Investment (The one that keeps failing!)
2 RP left to use for later.
Thoughts?
[x] Plan Beowulf's 69.99 $ Collector Edition's Day 1 Patch (game not included)
-[X] Super Robot Construction: Steed Prototype (2 RP)
--[x] Theoretical combination of the Pilum and the Steed. Do they blend?
-[X] Building a Seeker (3 RP)
--[X] Streamlined Resource Flow (+1 RP saved)
-[x] San-Ki Gattai / Triple Combination (4 RP)
-[X] Moderate Precautions. (1 RP)
--[X] Katarina and Diana's Support
-[x] Try to turn him. The only question is how. Or with who, specifically. All options will cost the same.
--[x] Ichiro. A 'native-born' Kaus could have an interesting outcome when talking with Zulu. (2 RP)
-[x] By now, you've learned that commanders are incredibly busy people (you would know from personal experience!). Keep it nice and simple. Show him the Centurion's capabilities at the Proving Grounds as is, its highlights and its drawbacks, and let him decide. (1 RP)
-[x] Security!!! (2 RP)
-[X] Ivanna's Support on Kaiju Biotechnology - Medium Investment (The one that keeps failing!)
2 RP left to use for later.
Thoughts?
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GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
Hrm...Would it be possible to completely lop off the Super Robot Construction for this turn, in order to use more money on it next turn?
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Remember what I said about "We want to keep this under our hat?"
This is precisely what I mean. Because either Armistead is either being honest, and he's really concerned about who might listen in for things like this, or he's bullshitting us and we nonetheless want to hide that we know this.
I don't want to beg for the Legion's assistance all the time either when they've got their own issues. But that's why I'm throwing Diana and Katarina at the problem. A 4 or better on two dice is perfectly reasonable.
Also, I don't want to put off the Perseus Build. I want a fully functional Core Unit on standby even if we're doing operations. As it is, it's going to take a season to finish.
This is precisely what I mean. Because either Armistead is either being honest, and he's really concerned about who might listen in for things like this, or he's bullshitting us and we nonetheless want to hide that we know this.
I don't want to beg for the Legion's assistance all the time either when they've got their own issues. But that's why I'm throwing Diana and Katarina at the problem. A 4 or better on two dice is perfectly reasonable.
Also, I don't want to put off the Perseus Build. I want a fully functional Core Unit on standby even if we're doing operations. As it is, it's going to take a season to finish.
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Uhh, purging the ADF from Westphalian sympathisers is not part of Devin's job description or speciality. It is, however, the duty of IS (the group we already have good relations with).
Involving them with the investigation only makes sense unless you intend for DFRI to also be responsible for policing the rest of the army.
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Anna Smith. Either she's a collected kind of crazy, or faking it expertly.
Something-something Takao.
Tinted windows, I think?
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I was trying to come up with my own plan (and a 20RP robot to go with it), and noticed that some potentially-interesting research is going to finish in 1-2 turns. As much as Alectai's plan is eager to have a brand new robot ASAP, it's possible to have a potentially-cooler new robot just slightly later, without the feeling of it being outdated immediately after it's built.
To sway y'all to my side, I'm putting together a potentially awesome robot plan. However, I've run into questions...
@Basarin (or anyone who remembers if this was already answered): Anty-Gravity Treatment applies to Core units only. Can it fit onto something as small as a Steed? If Steed is combined with Pilum, can AGT apply to Pilum instead? Can Pilum, both being a core and able to combine with Steed, carry AGT (core only) and Zirvitium Armour (combine only)?
I think Steed/Pilum combination was already researched as viable. See under Steed entry. Also, I'd put those 2 RP somewhere, and stockpile more for the turn when Acidic Horn research ends. In the hopes that it's result is more than just a new Finishing Move. Then again,
To sway y'all to my side, I'm putting together a potentially awesome robot plan. However, I've run into questions...
@Basarin (or anyone who remembers if this was already answered): Anty-Gravity Treatment applies to Core units only. Can it fit onto something as small as a Steed? If Steed is combined with Pilum, can AGT apply to Pilum instead? Can Pilum, both being a core and able to combine with Steed, carry AGT (core only) and Zirvitium Armour (combine only)?
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Not terribly expensive in a narrative sense, though the first few iterations until you get it right (see: Dispersion Field). I typically don't count weapons specifically as their own abilities unless they really stand out somehow (so whatever comes out of the K-Frag WOULD, but things such as melee weapons that would do 'standard' damage would be lumped into the Strikes category). A pilebunker, though, would count as something.
@Not in Person - Right now, you all converted the Pilum/Valkyrie to that of a Core Unit. It no longer can combine with anything until you put in the research for it. (So the Steed no longer can use it in that method at the moment)
I'll let the voting keep running through today.
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Aha, thanks.
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[X] Plan Beowulf's 69.99 $ Collector Edition's Day 1 Patch (game not included)
I agree with most points here, except San-Ki Gattai and the overly elaborate name. Although, I would recommend either assigning those leftover 2 RP somewhere (and bank more next turn), or putting those 2 RP from "research Steed/Pilum combination" into the bank (and bank more this turn). @HeavyBane, dunno if pings activate when editing posts, let's find out.
And here's something that might or might not inspire y'all:
Suggested name: Thunderbolt
Core unit: CRX-46C Pilum (/Valkyrie/Thunder)
Cost: 4 RP.
Heavy Weapons: Energy Blaster, and/or Acid Horn. Estimated 3 RP.
Finishers: Arc Cannon, 3 RP.
Upgrade Slots: 2
- NOTE: May exhibit additional traits with introduction of K-Class upgrades.
(Reference, with full stats and stuff)
Upgrades:
K-Suit (Pilot) {+4 RP, two layers. More actions = good. Free reroll = better}
- This does not take an Upgrade Slot. Grants Pilot +1 Action per Combat Turn.
- Second layer: one free re-roll per combat turn.
K-Circuits (Core Unit and Combine Unit) {+3 RP, two Upgrade Slots. With this, Pilum's base Strikes should become 3 HP at 2d6. I'm assuming this modifies Ramming Speed to 6 HP; or, at least, 4 HP.}
Hard Hitting: Enhances baseline Strike attack of Mecha to +1 HP per Strike. All modifiers will follow from new baseline.
- Takes one Upgrade Slot.
- You may pay an additional 2 RP to increase baseline to +2 HP per Strike. All modifiers will follow from new baseline.
- This takes an additional Upgrade Slot.
{Total at this point: 17 RP. Can be lowered by... @Basarin: Can Heavy Weapons and/or Arc Cannon be assigned at deployment? If so, the cost goes down, 17 -> 11 RP.}
{"I'm expecting something awesome from applying K-Circuits" is not explicitly stated for this plan... Yeah, okay, now it is.}
{If the current research options result in a More Attack upgrade, applicable to Core units - add Anti-Gravity Treatment for another Upgrade slot, +6 HP, and increased RP cost}
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Rant part starts here, casual readers can freely skip.
@Basarin again: There is no cost indicated for combinable units, at the post linked above. I mean, how much would cost adding this unit to the core, even approximately?
I tried to sketch a rough plan for Perseus+Centurion combination. It would have been awesome if either of them had two upgrade slots, for Double Layer Zivritium Plating.
More personally, reading through the list, I wished for a system that clearly indicated which qualities are inherent in a core unit, and so won't change when combining with anything; which qualities the combinable unit adds, regardless what it combines with, and which might change in different circumstances. Although I realize that all or some of these concerns might have been addressed, if there was ever a (winning) plan that threws some "extra" RP at "let's see what happens when we do these combinations".
I agree with most points here, except San-Ki Gattai and the overly elaborate name. Although, I would recommend either assigning those leftover 2 RP somewhere (and bank more next turn), or putting those 2 RP from "research Steed/Pilum combination" into the bank (and bank more this turn). @HeavyBane, dunno if pings activate when editing posts, let's find out.
And here's something that might or might not inspire y'all:
Suggested name: Thunderbolt
Core unit: CRX-46C Pilum (/Valkyrie/Thunder)
Cost: 4 RP.
Heavy Weapons: Energy Blaster, and/or Acid Horn. Estimated 3 RP.
Finishers: Arc Cannon, 3 RP.
Upgrade Slots: 2
- NOTE: May exhibit additional traits with introduction of K-Class upgrades.
(Reference, with full stats and stuff)
Upgrades:
K-Suit (Pilot) {+4 RP, two layers. More actions = good. Free reroll = better}
- This does not take an Upgrade Slot. Grants Pilot +1 Action per Combat Turn.
- Second layer: one free re-roll per combat turn.
K-Circuits (Core Unit and Combine Unit) {+3 RP, two Upgrade Slots. With this, Pilum's base Strikes should become 3 HP at 2d6. I'm assuming this modifies Ramming Speed to 6 HP; or, at least, 4 HP.}
Hard Hitting: Enhances baseline Strike attack of Mecha to +1 HP per Strike. All modifiers will follow from new baseline.
- Takes one Upgrade Slot.
- You may pay an additional 2 RP to increase baseline to +2 HP per Strike. All modifiers will follow from new baseline.
- This takes an additional Upgrade Slot.
{Total at this point: 17 RP. Can be lowered by... @Basarin: Can Heavy Weapons and/or Arc Cannon be assigned at deployment? If so, the cost goes down, 17 -> 11 RP.}
{"I'm expecting something awesome from applying K-Circuits" is not explicitly stated for this plan... Yeah, okay, now it is.}
{If the current research options result in a More Attack upgrade, applicable to Core units - add Anti-Gravity Treatment for another Upgrade slot, +6 HP, and increased RP cost}
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Rant part starts here, casual readers can freely skip.
@Basarin again: There is no cost indicated for combinable units, at the post linked above. I mean, how much would cost adding this unit to the core, even approximately?
I tried to sketch a rough plan for Perseus+Centurion combination. It would have been awesome if either of them had two upgrade slots, for Double Layer Zivritium Plating.
More personally, reading through the list, I wished for a system that clearly indicated which qualities are inherent in a core unit, and so won't change when combining with anything; which qualities the combinable unit adds, regardless what it combines with, and which might change in different circumstances. Although I realize that all or some of these concerns might have been addressed, if there was ever a (winning) plan that threws some "extra" RP at "let's see what happens when we do these combinations".
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Thors_Alumni
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Lets have a Tally.
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Answering the easier bit first: Don't worry about factoring in the cost for Heavy Weapons. You start every mission with 'Conventional' Heavy Weapons, and you purchase the Energy Blaster and above at cost at the loadout.
As for your second bit:
I'll be honest, I left that alone because everyone else just kept leaving it alone. I'll take a look, but it's a mystery for a reason - you have no idea what's going to happen when you do, I currently have no idea until I look into it, and in-universe - well, you get the idea.
I'll probably rework that so that future combinations are going to be their own separate projects, because leaving it in there is just causing extra confusion.
Theunderbolt
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That ship-girl thing?
Really? I think so, but the stats aren't mentioned, which means it's probably theoretical. Is that so, @Basarin ?
*Takes notes*
What's wrong with the super-mode? If we do it early, we won't have to worry about it anymore.
The research Steed/Pilum combo doesn't cost 2 RP. What does is creating a fully functional Steed for testing purposes (as well as having a new mech to use). I would like to have it tested now so that we can have a proper vehicle for Jessica.
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