To be fair you also took them b complete surprise and had two dragons for support in addition to Lya throwing fireballs.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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To be fair you also took them b complete surprise and had two dragons for support in addition to Lya throwing fireballs.
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@DragonParadox
Could you explain the mechanics behind the Unsullied resisting our Frightful Presence?
It reads as if not one did panik.
Could you explain the mechanics behind the Unsullied resisting our Frightful Presence?
It reads as if not one did panik.
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Yeah, the victory would have been more world-shaking if we hadn't participated actually.
Dragons winning wars is kinda expected. Unsullied losing a fair melee isn't!
@Artemis1992 maybe they're immune to fear?
Dragons winning wars is kinda expected. Unsullied losing a fair melee isn't!
@Artemis1992 maybe they're immune to fear?
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That's an option.
Another one would be that a formation of Unsullied never fails a willsave unless all do, like Legion Devils.
There are some possible solutions, but I'd really prefer to hear which one did it from the local diety.
[X] Perch upon the palace itself to force the Archon to surrender, before more needless slaughter can be done
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- United States
[X] Clear the towers, force open the gates let the legions march on
I would rather not sit still and let towers of archers shoot at us.
I would rather not sit still and let towers of archers shoot at us.
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- United States
Honestly, I'd be downright impressed if any of the archers managed to do a damn thing against the Legion.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
Viserys always intended to shatter the Unsullied through overwhelming firepower; it just isn't practical to try to fight them hoping attrition will favor you. They'll fight to the last if you kill them slowly. You need an alpha strike to really reach their morale's breaking point.
If these had been mercenaries or peasant levies or similar, we could have let the Legion have their fun and they would have suffered minimal casualties still.
If these had been mercenaries or peasant levies or similar, we could have let the Legion have their fun and they would have suffered minimal casualties still.
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- Germany
That doesn't matter.
DR 14/VS
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- United States
That too. Combined with our SR, Viserys is basically immune to anything low-level mooks throw at him. He could go to sleep in the middle of the battlefield and allow them to shoot spells and arrows at him all day and they'd accomplish nothing.
They're elite troops so they'll have some HD but Ser Richard was only level four when we met him and already a veteran, individually trained knight - they won't all be higher than that. I'd give a circumstance bonus for being in a big formation of likewise brainwashed battle brothers and maybe another for having someone in front who they can stab. Against dragon fear they'd need more than just a good will save for a 100% stand though.
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- United States
Ok. Fair enough. They still have to have some heavy hitters they can call upon though.
I did not calculate that yet. They did not really do that much compared to the dragonfire and fireballs.
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- United States
That's fine. Over the course of the rest of the battle as well as the cleanup efforts in the days after, they should get enough XP to level as a whole. Some might even jump by two levels. Are they making use of those nice double crossbows we had made for them?
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- Brazil
So, imagining these guys as Fighter 6 due to pushing the envelop like Rhaella does, something like STR 16/DEX 13/CON 14/INT 10/WIS 12/CHA 8, use something that's essentially Reinforced Studded Leather and a buckler and a Mwk longspear, or perhaps a greatspear because why not go nuts, right?
Feats: 10 - WF (Greatspear), Weapon Spz, Power Attack, Shield and Pike, Shorten Haft, Shield Specialization, Shield Ward, Shield Wall, Improved Iron Will, Combat Reflexes
So around:
HP: 47
AC: 19
Atk: Greatspear +11/+6 (2d6+6/x3) (+9/+4 if striking adjacent opponent)
Saves:
Fort: +7
Ref: +3
Will: +7
With maybe an immunity to Fear. This is probably a very best-case build for them, which is actually pretty fearsome. Good AC, great striking power, all around high saves due their improved iron will and elite array. This is essentially a CR 6 melee PC with two flaws, while our guys are technically CR 1.5 NPCs.
And even then, they hit our dudes on 19-20 (or only Nat 20s if they are adjacent) for around 12 damage (out of 23). Our dudes hit on ~8+ for 18 damage (out of 47).
Feats: 10 - WF (Greatspear), Weapon Spz, Power Attack, Shield and Pike, Shorten Haft, Shield Specialization, Shield Ward, Shield Wall, Improved Iron Will, Combat Reflexes
So around:
HP: 47
AC: 19
Atk: Greatspear +11/+6 (2d6+6/x3) (+9/+4 if striking adjacent opponent)
Saves:
Fort: +7
Ref: +3
Will: +7
With maybe an immunity to Fear. This is probably a very best-case build for them, which is actually pretty fearsome. Good AC, great striking power, all around high saves due their improved iron will and elite array. This is essentially a CR 6 melee PC with two flaws, while our guys are technically CR 1.5 NPCs.
And even then, they hit our dudes on 19-20 (or only Nat 20s if they are adjacent) for around 12 damage (out of 23). Our dudes hit on ~8+ for 18 damage (out of 47).
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- Brazil
@DragonParadox was this narrow street fighting? Or were there many thousand unsullied?
Because our breath weapon catches ~315 guys per use if we are flying overhead, same a Amrelath's, and a simple fireball catches ~50 people.
Because our breath weapon catches ~315 guys per use if we are flying overhead, same a Amrelath's, and a simple fireball catches ~50 people.
They are using fiery burst mostly because they figure the moral damage is greater then just more bolts in the air.
There were a few hundreds, patrols gathered in haste into a line formation. lesser soldiers would likely not even have manged to from up in time
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- Germany
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It's a damn shame, there are so many great effects stuffed into the one artifact.Everyone is going on about using this blade or sacarafing it. Why not get Yarel to advise us on how to redeem it?.
(and if it's not worth the effort, it can freeze it)
One day I hope to get an artifact this powerful that people don't want to get rid of.That said, sacrifice isn't a loss by any means. It could probably grow a Tier-3 Heart Tree all on its own, with a bonus reward. Four effects crammed onto a single blade? Yeah, that stuff is heavy.
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If the unsullied are each above level 4 i will eat my shoe.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
I imagine they are level 6, but in a martial class a good deal worse than Fighter, same HD and even better Will-saves, but worse attack and feats, because while Unsullied are good, they aren't take on an equivalent amount of Knights good, so I imagine they have an absolutely atrocious custom class, and just have extremely high levels, due to how much and how hard training they go though.