Pegicles is really fond of single-blow plan isn't he. He made the Hurricane devastate his rival, he looted Mare-a-thon capital by breaking it open, he triggered the Ursa Major to destroy our army. Chances are he is going to have a similar plan to defeat us. My guess is, if we are winning, he would crash his flying city on us and devastate our army. As Mengsk said "I will rule it or see it burned to ashes around me."
 
"Do you ask every soldier of the Empire to do this? To give up heaven and fight for eternity?"

"I do."

"…How many say yes? How many dead heroes are here?"

Hardbeak had never heard a Griffon sound so proud and yet so very sad.

"All of them Konrad. Every single one."
This made me laugh, I can just imagine Gryphus going, "I don't know if I've done a great job or committed a horrible sin. They're all crazies, nuts, feather brains, and maniacs but they're mine."
 
I think a mix of the first 2 options would work best to start with.
We dig in for a seige then send groups out to clear out any supporters Pegicles has left, they might be planning something too. After that I say we do some skirmishing to test the defenses and keep pressure on the city. Also, unless he emptied the city, I doubt he will crash the city, he doesn't seem like he like to break his own stuff.
 
You take a moment to wax nostalgic for the days when all you needed to command your army was a few banners, horns and sufficiently loud captains.
Those really were the days, huh Garrick? Almost making me nostalgic too!
You watch as the color seems to literally drain out of the creature, the vision of the night sky decorating its body fading as wisps of multicolored smoke waft upwards into the sky before dissipating, the creature quite literally evaporating before your eyes. Within moments its musculature becomes visible, followed shortly thereafter by its skeleton, bones the color of swirling nebula peeking through before they are shrouded by a cloud of rainbow-colored steam.
See, it's things like this and the rest of the description of its death that had me feeling bad for the Ursa Major. Like, that whole deahtly description makes me feel like we just committed some unspeakable act that we should all feel guilty for. Though it was in defense, we slayed something so beautiful and pure.

Anyhow, I'd feel most well about a write-in for an assault on Mare-a-Thon. The Scorched Earth tactics are an immediate "no". If we wish to have any hopes of a long-term integration (as I wish to do) or even reconciling the pro-Imperial Abolitionists with the Royal Guard remnants, we will need to ensure we are endeared to the population. Furthermore, Maretonia is in the middle of a famine only staved off from OUR shipments of food. If we burn the harvests now, it will make the post-war food situation that much worse.

However, a siege also isn't tenable for the fact that I very much expect Pegicles to try a massive and flashy suicide attack because that's been his modus-operandi as of yet. Pegicles may be a pegasus, but he acts more like a fox. When you corner a fox is when they are at their most dangerous. Said "flashy and massive suicide attack" is likely something that would attempt to take out a large chunk of our forces (and would possibly succeed at making a large sum of casualties), even if I don't expect it to change his fate.

Finally, that leaves the outright assault. As it stands, Mare-a-Thon should have the core of his army. Said core consists of the military aristocracy - the pegasi - that made up the elite core of the Maretonian military before the civil war. I expect a direct assault itself will also be perilous, though his manpower will likely be low and each veteran death will be a large and irreplaceable blow to his overall army. His auxiliary would have been, for the most part, left on the ground and unable to be garrisoned in the clouds above.

Thus, I think the best thing to do is to work out a more in-depth assault plan to whittle his elites to minimize our own casualties.
 
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Considering this is apparantly Pegiclis entire army then the place must be full to the brim unless they kicked out the civilains. Whatever Pegiclis wanted to do he must do it fast before his army become malnutrion and weak.

Because let's think about it. What a bunch of Pegasus can do is very limited. They can either drop the city on us in the form of thunderstorm or flood which we may have a solution for or turn the city into a death trap as we know Pegiclis do know the word misdirection. Don't forget the reason they can burn the capital is by tricking us he will unleash the tornado.

Beside those the only other way he can use to beat us is using out of the context problem. Which he is very limited in. With this setting the only way he can get those methods is using ancient records like how we get the Zeppilins or by getting them out of the country. As he is a military commander I doubt he spent much time blowing dust in an archieve and considering we have the Maretorian mages on hand magic is also out. The only way he can get outside help is from the Changelings which already seems busy clearing out their forest and the unknown nation in the south which we should have heard by now from the Maretonian we have if they make contact.

So yeah unless he somehow managed to learn Sonic Rainboom by using some formation to just yeet himself out of here I don't think we can get surprised by him.
 
[ ] Scorched Earth: On the other hand, you may not be content to simply wait for however long it takes for your enemy to get frustrated enough to attack you. Mare-a-Thon is a great fortress, but it's position in the sky means it can't grow it's own food. That task falls to the numerous farms and plantations scattered across Pegicles' territory. You can't lock down each and every one of those farms to prevent them from supplying Storm forces...but you can certainly set them on fire. Most of them are owned by Nobles loyal to Pegicles anyway, and a few even have slaves working on them, so you certainly have a justification for doing so. Of course, Griffons setting fire to the Maretonian countryside will doubtlessly paint a less than positive picture of you and your forces...
Honestly I think this is our best approach.

We don't want to give Pegicles the initiative and we don't want to assaults his fortress like he clearly wants. The first lets him complete whatever plans he can come up with at his leisure and the second risk everything on an all out gamble that could lose it all.

He is trying to force two bad options so we need to go with the third. This plays best to our strengths and his weaknesses the best in terms of pure tactics. Pegicles for all his professionalism has a feudal army at the end of the day, the Nobles who support him are going to care about their lands being under threat. If we put start o burn them he has to deal with the two bad options of try to force his noble to sit back while the homes they care about are burned and he losses supplies or to move men out of his fortress to contest the attempts. Either aids us in the end because out strength is a superior logistic base and numbers from that. If in a skirmish he loses 10 Pegasus professionals or the food to feed 100 he can't replace them while he have an Empire back home ending us supplies as long as we control this pass safely.

The biggest drawback is the bad PR and well... at the end of the day this is a war we have not one yet. It is not a good idea to throw away good war options because they might lead to an imperfect peace you might not get.

Plus I don't think the PR is as bad as it seems, remember these are very specifically House Storm's lands we are attacking. The people who have committed far worse crimes then this by a mile to every other Maretonian by far. The people outside this region won't care as much about what we do to bring Pegicles to heel and restore order in general and many will probably spit on his grave. As for the people in this province, most of them are ones we are going to want gone anyway! The Noble loyal to house storm are basically the only group we have to punish, they won't give up slavery unless forced and have done the worst crimes by far in the war. We want the nobility of this region broken long term so they are no longer a threat and a for the rest of the people? First off any slaves we encounter can be freed then probably be sent back to safer lands with a little effort. We will be rebuilding the region anyway and I doubt the slave will hold a grudge when they now own the property of their old masters.

I don't think their is any third option we can up with better then this one. Harsh as it is this is war and sometimes the fastest way to end it is to do bad thing to some so that others might live.
 
Do we know the seasonal weather in this area? Just in case theres not a surprise storm that can pass and they'd take advantage of. As for what they have in store I think they are building up for a mega lightning cannon that can incinerate whatever they'd point at.
 
Ok so for the moment I think we should be just digging in but with a twist, The food situation is one of the major things that a city under siege need to worry about but Moral is also very important. If Moral breaks then the city might surrender regardless of what the leadership wants and even if it comes to a battle low morale can lead to them not fighting very hard.

I propose that when we dig in we also put our artillery to work, assuming we have the supply train for it. We shell the city walls lightly. not as a serious attempt at breaching the walls/City but cannons are loud, long ranged enough that we can do it without much retaliation and importantly powerful enough that they cannot be ignored by any troops.

By lightly shelling the city walls we always keep the city on high alert with none of the troops getting any sleep as they need to be awake just in case they need to dodge a cannonball or escape a building. lack of sleep would lead to arguments/fights breaking out and generally make the enemy troops less effective.

Edit* Blast just reread the chapter, the last part says they can control how high the city goes so that they would be out of range of the cannon if we tried my idea.
 
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Ok so for the moment I think we should be just digging in but with a twist, The food situation is one of the major things that a city under siege need to worry about but Moral is also very important. If Moral breaks then the city might surrender regardless of what the leadership wants and even if it comes to a battle low morale can lead to them not fighting very hard.

I propose that when we dig in we also put our artillery to work, assuming we have the supply train for it. We shell the city walls lightly. not as a serious attempt at breaching the walls/City but cannons are loud, long ranged enough that we can do it without much retaliation and importantly powerful enough that they cannot be ignored by any troops.

By lightly shelling the city walls we always keep the city on high alert with none of the troops getting any sleep as they need to be awake just in case they need to dodge a cannonball or escape a building. lack of sleep would lead to arguments/fights breaking out and generally make the enemy troops less effective.
That's a pretty good idea to start off with! Plus, I'm pretty sure we have the logistics to afford it.

On my contribution to this potential write-in, I think we should have the Abolitionist forces plant counter-cells along each of the biggest House Storm-aligned plantations and farms. That way, we can ambush any of his soldiers that may come to collect food for his fortress (as well as potentially inspire some final slave uprisings) without actually wasting food in the middle of a FAMINE like Scorched Earth would have us do. It's less immediately effective, but it is good enough for what we do and has its own positive tradeoffs. It also would have us kill or otherwise turn into refugees less innocents since, contrary to what some have implied, I highly doubt the nobles are the ones working entire farms and plantations themselves. Not the ones big enough that we would care about them anyhow.

The Abolitionists are masters at cell-based guerilla warfare since that's what they used for half this war. I think they can quickly pull something rough up. Creating terror of leaving the garrison's walls along with your own proposal of using sound to harm them psychologically would be a heavy blow to morale.

Edit: You know what, I feel that last part of the second paragraph was a little passive-aggressive so I'd like to apologize for it. Gonna keep it in for reference and all, but I just want to acknowledge that's my bad. No one's yet raised the tone of this conversation to a level deserving of such an attitude, so I am at fault for being passive aggressive about it. Apologies once more.
 
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We still have our Archmage merlin and a sky mage and though they may be a bit drained with the Ursa after some downtime during the siege they should be fine. Maybe we could drag the whole fortress down with telekinesis? It's nothing but cloud's after all.
Our earth mage may even be able to terraform hills or a plateau to better shoot them from or barring that give us some cover with all this open space.
 
We still have our Archmage merlin and a sky mage and though they may be a bit drained with the Ursa after some downtime during the siege they should be fine. Maybe we could drag the whole fortress down with telekinesis? It's nothing but cloud's after all.
Our earth mage may even be able to terraform hills or a plateau to better shoot them from or barring that give us some cover with all this open space.
You know that isn't a bad idea. The issue we have here is that our cannons can't reach their flying city after all. We definitely can't build a mountain, but a series of hills where our cannons and soldiers are elevated higher to enggage faster and a way to direct a possible flood is good. Might as well build some iron towers for a lighting rod.
 
Mare-a-tone is a flying city right? How do you siege a flying city? I mean if you try to box it in it can just fly away. I mean they already said it can fly higher then our big guns can shoot so what's to stop them from just rising the city once they see they have been surrounded and bum rushing the weakest point in our line, break through, and then just keep flying until all pursers become to exhausted to keep up the chase then stop the city and repeat as needed?
 
Mare-a-tone is a flying city right? How do you siege a flying city? I mean if you try to box it in it can just fly away. I mean they already said it can fly higher then our big guns can shoot so what's to stop them from just rising the city once they see they have been surrounded and bum rushing the weakest point in our line, break through, and then just keep flying until all pursers become to exhausted to keep up the chase then stop the city and repeat as needed?
It's flying city yes. But from what I heard it's slow as fuck. You can outpace it by running easily. I suppose it's because it's not just a cloud but a hardened cloud. Because the pegasus may be able to walk on it, but I doubt they can just put their furniture up there without some kind of preparation.
 
I propose that when we dig in we also put our artillery to work, assuming we have the supply train for it. We shell the city walls lightly. not as a serious attempt at breaching the walls/City but cannons are loud, long ranged enough that we can do it without much retaliation and importantly powerful enough that they cannot be ignored by any troops.
*Cough*
There are some murmurs among the other council members at that. There's no doubt that Mare-a-Thon will be a tough but to crack. With Pegicles having the ability to make it fly however high he wants it to, it will almost certainly be out of range of your cannon, effectively making the bombardment of the city by conventional means impossible.
 
Tactically speaking the best option is Scorched Earth, despite the optics of burning crops, we would also be freeing slaves and they are the ones that unleashed a natural disaster so there's that.

But if we really want the moral high ground even more than we already do, it's best to just dig in and wait him out. It's doubtful they have something especially bad they can improve on with time.
 
Tactically speaking the best option is Scorched Earth, despite the optics of burning crops, we would also be freeing slaves and they are the ones that unleashed a natural disaster so there's that.

But if we really want the moral high ground even more than we already do, it's best to just dig in and wait him out. It's doubtful they have something especially bad they can improve on with time.
Yeah any other country then I will support the Scorched Tactic, but Maretonia already have too much experience with 'Area Destruction' from storms destroying the ports, Roam being burned to the ground, and Pegiclis own scorched earth tactics againts White Star. If we do burn the farm it's very easy for their minds to shift Griffonia into the same box with Pegiclis. Everything is fair as long as I win box.
 
How exaggerated is that story is going to get in the coming years?
If the omake eventually becomes canonized when Hardbeak dies...
You know those dream-eating eldritch horrors that seek to destroy the universe from Cultist Simulator / Birdbohdisattva's House of the Sun quest? We're gonna be fighting them alongside every warrior that died for Gryphus and sent to Not!Valhalla to fight Ranarok, not to mention whatever techno-magical marvels we get between then.
 
Do we literally have to burn the farms down to starve him out? Even if we just occupy them for a little and free the slaves that should cut down their supplies significantly

Right now I'm leaning towards sieging for a bit while also freeing the slaves and launching some more sabotage attacks on the city in preparation for a proper assault
 
Do we literally have to burn the farms down to starve him out? Even if we just occupy them for a little and free the slaves that should cut down their supplies significantly

Right now I'm leaning towards sieging for a bit while also freeing the slaves and launching some more sabotage attacks on the city in preparation for a proper assault
Occupying the farms would lessen the impact on our own supply chain while also inviting attacks by Pegicles to regain supplies from the farms. So a win win really, as we might be able to slowly bleed out the troops as well.
 
Do we literally have to burn the farms down to starve him out? Even if we just occupy them for a little and free the slaves that should cut down their supplies significantly

Right now I'm leaning towards sieging for a bit while also freeing the slaves and launching some more sabotage attacks on the city in preparation for a proper assault
I supposes it's to not scretch our defensive formation thin. If we only releasing the slaves they can just send in more. We already sieging them, it would be hard to also protect a land without turning them into a battlefield as well.

Also I don't think these farms are a normal one. From the sounds of it these farms are also on clouds. Outside the city walls where Pegiclis army are stationed yes but still on clouds. We can get in and out quick enough to burn the field, but we can't defend them without also causing the army to also charge us.
 
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