Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
- Thread starter Questor
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- Location
- Canada
[ ] And Push It Somewhere Else!: One particularly eccentric military engineer has proposed an unusual solution to the problem of fortifying the Maretonian border region. Rather than mothball the already existing fortifications in the Peregrine mountains and build new ones from scratch, he proposes disassembling the existing defense infrastructure, transporting it across the Protectorate, and reassembling it along the new border. The craziest part of the whole thing is that, after running the numbers and performing some small-scale simulations to test the plan's feasibility, it appears that not only is the idea possible, it would actually be cheaper and faster than the alternative! An...unusual solution, but if it works, it works. Cost: 1500. Time: Three Years. Reward: Peregrine Line "Relocated" to Maretonian Border.
Could be helpful for expansion as those relocated along the border wall defenses require a population and supply line so we can set up towns along the rail lines used to move the walls in the first place allowing for a wider growth along those lines as well as towns close to the walls to support the families of those walls as acting as a resting place for the soldiers. During the expansion of our rail network the time to set these up together are about the same time so they be incorporated at the same time thus allowing for something like a mechanize gate for incoming cargo shipping leaving our borders allowing for future expansion of the rails to any outside cities beyond the walls.
Could be helpful for expansion as those relocated along the border wall defenses require a population and supply line so we can set up towns along the rail lines used to move the walls in the first place allowing for a wider growth along those lines as well as towns close to the walls to support the families of those walls as acting as a resting place for the soldiers. During the expansion of our rail network the time to set these up together are about the same time so they be incorporated at the same time thus allowing for something like a mechanize gate for incoming cargo shipping leaving our borders allowing for future expansion of the rails to any outside cities beyond the walls.
- Location
- United States
It would be a gradual increase, but children do need less calories per day compared to teenagers and adults even after considering needs for their faster metabolism and growth. Mainly because they are smaller.
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Hardbeak Line will do the same thing, but be rated for magical attack, and allow the posting jobs at the Peregrine Line to stay for a fallback option in case of emergency.
I don't think we should move Peregrine, or even mothball it for that matter.
- Location
- Somewhere
Link to the last time I did this.
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Name: Garrick Golden-Feather
Age: 49
Titles: Emperor of Gryphus, King of Griffonia, Inheritor of the Imperial House of Gryphus, The Unifier, Great Winged Alpha, The Lightbringer, The Liberator, the King of the North.
Description: Before your wife got her talons on you, you were a fairly typical example of the Griffon species. An unmistakably masculine build, a strong, prominent beak, feathers and fur that seem to be perpetually well-groomed, and a pair of piercing amber eyes hiding a fierce intelligence. Not anymore though. Oh, you still have all those qualities, they're just overshadowed by the massive amount of muscle you've put on since you started your wife's "enhanced training regimen". Your wings can lift dumbbells, and your legs are like tree-trunks supporting a barrel chest rippling with abdominal muscles. In short, you have the build of a person who has been lifting heavy objects his entire life.
Martial: 9+2+1+2=14
Diplomacy: 14+2+2=18
Stewardship: 13+2=15
Learning: 16+2=18
Intrigue: 11+2=13
- Trait-Attractive: You are a very handsome fellow. +2 Diplomacy, better spousal relationship
- Trait-Genius: Smart doesn't even begin to describe you. +2 all skills
- Trait-Strong: Working out with your wife has done great things for your body. +2 Martial
Inventory:
- Blade of the King: an ornate and deadly sword you had forged for yourself after being crowned King of Griffonia. +1 Martial
- Royal Armor: Serving to protect you as well as display your royal status to onlookers, this armor is both durable and aesthetically pleasing.
- Orichalcum Sword: A blade made of an extremely durable, magic resistant metal
- Sendak Manuscript: Recovered from the Archives of the Shadow King Sombra, this strange book is bound in the treated flesh of monsters and is written in numerous unknown tongues. It contains diagrams that seem to reference everything from the movements of stellar bodies to the biology of plants and animals to the complex physics of magical phenomenon. It's origins remain a mystery.
Wife: Gabriella Golden-Feather
Opinion of You: 10/10
Age: 48
Martial: 15+1+2=18
Diplomacy: 11+1=12
Stewardship: 8+1=9
Learning: 13+1=14
Intrigue: 10+1=11
Trait: Strong - Born stronger than most. (+2 Martial)
Trait: Experienced - Has been a mercenary for several years, ranging across the lands of the former Empire. Knows much about the world. (+1 All Stats)
Son: Gawain Golden-Feather
Age: 18
Martial: 14+2+2+1=19
Diplomacy: 13+2+2+2=19
Stewardship: 14+2=16
Learning: 10+2=12
Intrigue: 11+2=13
Status: Designated Heir. Will become player character in event of Parent's Deaths.
Trait: Strong-Born stronger than most. (+2 Martial)
Trait: Attractive-A cute kid, and eventually a handsome fellow. (+2 Diplomacy, better spousal relationship)
Trait: Genius-Smart doesn't begin to describe him. (+2 All Stats)
Trait: Game Master-Years of playing games of strategy and wits with members of the Imperial Court has honed his sense of strategy and taught him how to read others. (+1 Martial, +2 Diplomacy)
(Adopted) Daughter: Gwyndlyn Golden-Feather
Age: 14
Status: Child-No Stats
Status-Designated Regent: In the event that no heir is capable of taking the throne, or in the event the rightful ruler is otherwise unavailable, she will take control of the kingdom until the situation can be resolved.
Trait: Dragon-A fire breathing reptile. (+4 Martial)
Trait: Gardener-Years of studying and caring for plants has taught her much in the realm of botany, and has instilled in her an understanding of how hard work and patience can yield great dividends. (+2 Stewardship, +1 Learning, +1 Intrigue)
Daughter: Gilda Golden-Feather
Age: 11
Status: Child-No Stats
Daughter: Gleaming Pearl
Age: 12
Status: Child-No Stats
Adopted: Permanently last in the line of Royal Succession.
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Markala
Hannor & Polycho Shipper
- Location
- At the Junction of Angst and Fluff
[] Plan: Infrastructural Upgrades & More Wartime Prep v2
-[ ] The Hardbeak Line: Cost: 2200. Time: Two Years. Reward: Hardbeak Line Constructed using new fortification techniques. Southern Border Secured.
-[ ] Black Knights: Cost: 800. Time: One Year. Reward: Knights of the Inner Circle equipped with Black Steel weapons.
-[ ] What's up King dude?: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Information on King Rutherford and Yakyakistan Foreign Policy, Address the Issue of Yak Orichalcum.
-[ ] Island Investment: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Griffon-funded businesses established on Libertalia, Increased Mining/Agricultural Income, Improved Libertalia Relations, Additional Actions Unlocked.Chance of Success: 70%
-[ ] Rail Network: Cost: 1500. Time: Four Years. Reward: National Freight Railway Network Constructed. Increased Tax Income. New Options Unlocked. Will Finish in Two More Turns
-[ ] Imperial Sanitation Commission: Cost: 1500. Time: Three Years. Reward: City Sewage Networks Upgraded, lessened chance of disease outbreaks.
-[ ] Flying without Wings: Cost: 200. Time: One Year. Reward: Viability of Airships explored, additional Learning Actions Unlocked.
-[ ] Canterbury Magic Experts: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Pony Magic Scholars Recruited, New Actions Unlocked. Chance of Success: 65%.
-[ ] Stirring up Trouble: Cost: 600. Time: Two Years. Reward: Maretonian nobility discredited/at each other's throats, Abolitionists gain more power and influence, Maretonia becomes less concerned about Gryphus. Will Finish This Turn
-[ ] Follow the Money: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Intel on Maretonian treasure fleet, Increased chance of Success for Hoofbeard's heist, Intel on Maretonian Trade partner. Chance of Success: 55%.
-[ ] The Imperial Truth: Cost: 100. Time: One Year. Reward: Imperial Cult doctrinal disputes resolved.
-[ ] Overtime: Skill-Training Programs: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Slightly Increased Tax Income, Crystal Protectorate no longer dependent on Imperial Expertise.
-[ ] Imperial Priority: Imperial Sanitation Commission
-[ ] Getting to Know You: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Gawain Improves Relationship with a Friend, May Lead to Further Developments and Benefits Down the Road. (Does not cost an Action. May only develop one relationship per Turn)
--[ ] Ki Seong: The Cultured Qilin is exactly what you'd expect the daughter of Neighponese Nobility to be...and that might actually be a problem. Gawain tells you she likely feels pressured by the expectations of society and her family to hold herself to a high standard at all times. Hopefully he can convince her to let her hair down around him.
Total Plan Cost: 10300
Net Income: (1637)
Plan % Success Chances (ya'll can decide what needs Omake Bonuses):
Island Investment: 70% + 18% (Garrick DIPLO) = Base 88%
Canterbury Magic Experts: 65% + 18% (Garrick LEARNING) = Base 83%
Follow the Money: 55% + 13% (Garrick INTRIGUE) = Base 68% << Most Need of Omake Bonus in plan afaik
Plan Shilling From the top:
MARTIAL: Hardbeak line is a nobrainer, having both Lines as stopgaps just in case of overrun invasion would be good buffer, all things considered. Black Knights are gonna hopefully be useful against mage enemies. Prep for if the Maretonia thing blows up into full conflict mode.
DIPLO: Okay, finally deal with the thing with the (newly united Yaks), and next lock Libertalia DOWN. Next turn we talk to Canterbury or something.
STWDSHP: Okay since we're down for finishing the railways, let's head off the plague shit off at the pass, stick an Imperial Order on it so that it finishes roughly the same time that the Railway does, that way when they're done, we get 2 actions AND two massive infrastructural upgrades working together in tandem.
LEARN: We need in-universe info on Pony Magic if we're gonna throw down with Maretonia, let's go hit up Canterbury and hope they'll be a bro pls. Also I've been convinced, let's do the Flying Machines and throw an overtime on the Skill Training Programs for the Crystal Ponies.
INTRIGUE: Finish stirring the shit in Maretonia, then Follow the Money because of course we want to know who the backer mcfucking IS so we can DO THE HEIST (better). << Gonna need some Omake Bonus love.
PIETY: Sort out the shit with the Cult, no infighting in our house nuh-uh.
PERSONAL: Overtime Skill Training Program & Imp Ordering that Sanitation thing bc no diseases in our country pls! Also time for our sonny boy to hang out with our girl, Ki Seong!
-[ ] The Hardbeak Line: Cost: 2200. Time: Two Years. Reward: Hardbeak Line Constructed using new fortification techniques. Southern Border Secured.
-[ ] Black Knights: Cost: 800. Time: One Year. Reward: Knights of the Inner Circle equipped with Black Steel weapons.
-[ ] What's up King dude?: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Information on King Rutherford and Yakyakistan Foreign Policy, Address the Issue of Yak Orichalcum.
-[ ] Island Investment: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Griffon-funded businesses established on Libertalia, Increased Mining/Agricultural Income, Improved Libertalia Relations, Additional Actions Unlocked.Chance of Success: 70%
-[ ] Rail Network: Cost: 1500. Time: Four Years. Reward: National Freight Railway Network Constructed. Increased Tax Income. New Options Unlocked. Will Finish in Two More Turns
-[ ] Imperial Sanitation Commission: Cost: 1500. Time: Three Years. Reward: City Sewage Networks Upgraded, lessened chance of disease outbreaks.
-[ ] Flying without Wings: Cost: 200. Time: One Year. Reward: Viability of Airships explored, additional Learning Actions Unlocked.
-[ ] Canterbury Magic Experts: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Pony Magic Scholars Recruited, New Actions Unlocked. Chance of Success: 65%.
-[ ] Stirring up Trouble: Cost: 600. Time: Two Years. Reward: Maretonian nobility discredited/at each other's throats, Abolitionists gain more power and influence, Maretonia becomes less concerned about Gryphus. Will Finish This Turn
-[ ] Follow the Money: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Intel on Maretonian treasure fleet, Increased chance of Success for Hoofbeard's heist, Intel on Maretonian Trade partner. Chance of Success: 55%.
-[ ] The Imperial Truth: Cost: 100. Time: One Year. Reward: Imperial Cult doctrinal disputes resolved.
-[ ] Overtime: Skill-Training Programs: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Slightly Increased Tax Income, Crystal Protectorate no longer dependent on Imperial Expertise.
-[ ] Imperial Priority: Imperial Sanitation Commission
-[ ] Getting to Know You: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Gawain Improves Relationship with a Friend, May Lead to Further Developments and Benefits Down the Road. (Does not cost an Action. May only develop one relationship per Turn)
--[ ] Ki Seong: The Cultured Qilin is exactly what you'd expect the daughter of Neighponese Nobility to be...and that might actually be a problem. Gawain tells you she likely feels pressured by the expectations of society and her family to hold herself to a high standard at all times. Hopefully he can convince her to let her hair down around him.
Total Plan Cost: 10300
Net Income: (1637)
Plan % Success Chances (ya'll can decide what needs Omake Bonuses):
Island Investment: 70% + 18% (Garrick DIPLO) = Base 88%
Canterbury Magic Experts: 65% + 18% (Garrick LEARNING) = Base 83%
Follow the Money: 55% + 13% (Garrick INTRIGUE) = Base 68% << Most Need of Omake Bonus in plan afaik
Plan Shilling From the top:
MARTIAL: Hardbeak line is a nobrainer, having both Lines as stopgaps just in case of overrun invasion would be good buffer, all things considered. Black Knights are gonna hopefully be useful against mage enemies. Prep for if the Maretonia thing blows up into full conflict mode.
DIPLO: Okay, finally deal with the thing with the (newly united Yaks), and next lock Libertalia DOWN. Next turn we talk to Canterbury or something.
STWDSHP: Okay since we're down for finishing the railways, let's head off the plague shit off at the pass, stick an Imperial Order on it so that it finishes roughly the same time that the Railway does, that way when they're done, we get 2 actions AND two massive infrastructural upgrades working together in tandem.
LEARN: We need in-universe info on Pony Magic if we're gonna throw down with Maretonia, let's go hit up Canterbury and hope they'll be a bro pls. Also I've been convinced, let's do the Flying Machines and throw an overtime on the Skill Training Programs for the Crystal Ponies.
INTRIGUE: Finish stirring the shit in Maretonia, then Follow the Money because of course we want to know who the backer mcfucking IS so we can DO THE HEIST (better). << Gonna need some Omake Bonus love.
PIETY: Sort out the shit with the Cult, no infighting in our house nuh-uh.
PERSONAL: Overtime Skill Training Program & Imp Ordering that Sanitation thing bc no diseases in our country pls! Also time for our sonny boy to hang out with our girl, Ki Seong!
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- Location
- Somewhere
Why Flying Machines? Shouldn't that Overtime go into an agriculture pursuit, or finishing up teaching the crystal ponies, so they don't rely on Griffonia?
lockingbane
If you're crazy and you know it clap your hands!
- Location
- Waxahachie tx
Um, I am pretty sure you got the term confused.
Urban Sprawl is when a city spreads out rather than condenses.
What I am suggesting will PREVENT urban sprawl by taking advantage of our vast lands and establishing NEW towns rather than expanding old ones to obscene levels (which is urban sprawl).
Establishing new villages leads to new towns and if we ensure they are in good locations, ensure the settlers are taught what they need to know, and so on it would increase economy especially with the formation of towns catering to specific niches such as pleasure ports and brew towns.
If we can get them to compete with one another that also stimulates income through the competition.
Markala
Hannor & Polycho Shipper
- Location
- At the Junction of Angst and Fluff
...All the agricultural options (Aggressive expansion [which we should start as our Next Infrastructural Upgrade after we prevent future possible disease outbreaks] & Sugar Beets) take more than a (1) year and the limit on an Overtime is 1 year actions only. But you might have a point about the Skill Training program for Crystal Ponies. Honestly I put it there because the Flying Machines thing has just been on my mind for a while on this quest too.
Actually concerning the One (1) Overtime in my plan ( [] Plan: Infrastructural Upgrades & More Wartime Prep v1 ) I'm torn between the Flying Machines, Skill Program, or trying to establish diplomatic contact with the Viking Caribou or doing the Canterbury Caravans. Thoughts?
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- Location
- Maryland
That was my intention, yes.
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I like your plan overall, but we could replace the 2 year rune replication for now with the 1 year airship study to make room for the skill program, and revisit it next turn.
- Location
- United States
Yes, that is exactly what I meant.
Sure, by the technical definition. But that will still harm the environment by destroying natural habitats. We should build up and down rather than expanding across the surface. We already have decent capability to do that as seen with the Diamond Dog underground settlements.
Having a lot of cities where skilled workers are all spread out is less efficient than having a few big cities where millions of people live. Let's say you're a corporation that needs workers with a very niche skillset. You're not going to find those workers in a new small town, you're going to have a much easier time filling positions if you set up in one of the major megalopolises. There is also no need for "niche" towns. Pleasure ports and such only exist in real life because the legal system only allows gambling and prostitution in a handful of cities. The biggest cities already have enough people that they have amenities to cater for almost every need. For example, almost every major city has craft breweries, orchestras, zoos, theatres, museums, etc. The only new towns that might actually be needed are ones that exploit natural resources like coal mining. Even then, those towns naturally die out when the resources run out or are no longer profitable. A possible exception is towns built to serve the needs of a military base, but that's not an immediate concern.
Markala
Hannor & Polycho Shipper
- Location
- At the Junction of Angst and Fluff
Point. You've convinced me (also 1 less thing to vie for an Omake bonus the resulting turn, yay!), I've updated the plan post thusly to:
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- Location
- Castle Drakenhof
I wish to point something out, regarding population. We are on the cusp, of not already undergoing an industrial revolution. Our economy is starting to change away from an agrarian one. There's only so much economic value you can get out of a plot of land, loosely speaking, so the faster we switch over the better off we'll be.
Dr.Degenerate
The Resident Furry
- Location
- A Trash Can
I realize we probably aren't going to do the flying machines this turn in favor of dealing with the incoming population boom, but I think we should get around to that sometime soon. Archimedes was already middle aged when we started and he's probably nearing the point where retirement or a sudden death takes his genius away from us. I'd like us to get the airships while our super-genius is still alive.
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The only thing in Learning to do with the population boom in any way is Sugar Beets, but that really seems more like a luxury thing and only takes 1 slot. This is actually looking like the turn we start on flying machines, so far at least.
banjo2E
Has left the planet
- Location
- Mafia Town
The downside of cities is they're a perfect breeding ground for plagues. Historically, cities used to have much higher mortality rates than the country, to the point where some cities regularly had more deaths than births, relying on people from the country coming in to look for work to make up the difference.
We've got the basics of germ theory and a department of health but I'm not confident our health care industry is prepared for the effects of heavy urbanization. It's honestly pretty vital that we take Sanitation Commission as soon as possible, which is why it's so crippling that it'll take 3 turns in a category that already has one of its slots locked for 2 and is further competing for that slot with a 2-turn famine prevention plan.
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So what I'm getting is that we don't urbanize our existing settlements and instead should establish new towns until our Health and safety gets up to code?
IIRC, There's a bunch of land in the Crystal Protectorate that isn't really being used since it's, you know, kind of a wasteland still and the only real settlement there is the Crystal City.
IIRC, There's a bunch of land in the Crystal Protectorate that isn't really being used since it's, you know, kind of a wasteland still and the only real settlement there is the Crystal City.
- Location
- United States
So take the risk for now while waiting on sanitation commission to complete. In the meantime start getting more magic advisors so we can at least get some healing magic in the meantime.
- Location
- Somewhere
Yes, the info was already posted, this was an early question in the thread.
All the species in the world, except dragons live about the average lifespan of RL humans in the Middle Ages (roughly within 100 years). That makes the lifespan about 40-80. Dragons get a thousand years, I think (was it ten thousand, or just a thousand?).
- Location
- Greece
what about ponies,pegasi,unicorns etc?
- Location
- Somewhere
I said all the species, except dragons (and those related to dragons? I'm not sure how kirin lifespans work), share the same lifespan in this quest. Maybe my writing is really flawed?
If we were to actually go with RL applied onto the MLP canon. Odd things like the Gryphons living longer than ponies might crop up.
Yes, ponies, pegasi, and unicorns share the same lifespan of about less than a hundred years, or less than fifty years, like RL humans.
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- Location
- SF Bay Area
While I understand the concern for Urban Sprawl we have to consider a few things to stop that. One is building materials, and being able to build taller than 5 stories. Two, we already have wings, unlike humans who can't fly, the idea of lifting yourself 5 or 8 stories in the air isn't hard to believe. To solve the engineering problems of building higher than 5 stories, we will need steel, and lots of it...
Well that or we get the Diamond Dogs to dig expansions underground and go full Eloi and Morlock
Well that or we get the Diamond Dogs to dig expansions underground and go full Eloi and Morlock
- Location
- NJ
So copy the Diamond Dogs Underground cities, we will probably need to make sure that they have defenses incase someone tries digging into our cities.
Actually that brings up the question if we should make an Underground Fortress to go with our second defensive line as well.
Actually that brings up the question if we should make an Underground Fortress to go with our second defensive line as well.