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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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Pittauro said:
I expect we're storing all our surplus food away. the moment we start having a deficit and our food stores start diminishing instead of increasing is the moment we HAVE to attack. At that point we should still have months at the very least before we really risk going hungry.

After all no matter how bad the blizzard gets, at the very least hothouses and fish farming will still continue to stretch our reserves
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Half of our country is frozen and already on reservese. Now add army to it as well.We cannot have defending army active without food the same way as attacking one. Stretching reserves means exposing our people to starvation.
 
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And the other half is still producing extremely large amounts of food. Not to mention the next big agricultural update we are just in the middle of making. That along with the New region which will also be producing food and income. It's also even farther away from Sombra so it isn't affected by the blizzard right now. we aren't barely making enough food to feed our people were making extremely large amounts of food more than we need a lot more.
 
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ChaosRuneSmith said:
Can't have the Sealed Evil in a Can escape if the can is a solid cube of anti-magic metal
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Still it doesn't hurt to be thorough

"Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, before we start our trading negotiations would you mind using your rainbow laser on this cube of metal? We're not sure it will work, but it can't hurt"

Star said:
Half of our country is frozen and already on reservese. Now add army to it as well.We cannot have defending army active without food the same way as attacking one. Stretching reserves means exposing our people to starvation.
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It's not like soldiers don't eat even when at home!

Still we should easily get a warning once we actually risk going hungry, and we have enough food sources that our reserves won't immediately plummet the moment the blizzard get worse. Also nothing stops us from building more hothouses and fish farms, or asking the Qilin to export more food. And we still have two farming actions to take.
 
Pittauro said:
It's not like soldiers don't eat even when at home!

Still we should easily get a warning once we actually risk going hungry, and we have enough food sources that our reserves won't immediately plummet the moment the blizzard get worse. Also nothing stops us from building more hothouses and fish farms, or asking the Qilin to export more food. And we still have two farming actions to take.
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Miltia yes, professional soldiers are stationed at the wall and garrisons , thus need supplies.

If he freeze our entire Kingdom we will be weary limited on how much food we can produce and importing food will hurt our economy in the long run and it isn't sustainable.

On other hand he has more time to prepare himself for any invasion we can launch and add to it that Quilin have their own population to feed.
 
We are also about three years away from another major boost to our farming income. On turn 18 we reach a decade from when we finished on our breeding program for animals and crops. On turn 16 if the decade timer started when we started the action instead of when it finished. That combined with the crop rotation, irrigation system, seed drills, and the sugar beats will see our farming out put increase again and more over time.
 
We should probably wait to decide what we are going to do, until we actually see what options are available to us. Our magic advisers could help us out quite a bit with a variety of things, and I'm thinking getting Orichalcum weapons for some of our elites would be extremely important before we actually attack Sombra, so if that takes 2 turns, we'd probably want to wait those 2 turns.
 
Well since our advisors are coming from Quilin that means that they should be fire specialists, basically they should be able to lift the storm and anger Sombra into attacking us since his retaliation is useless on us and we can sabotage him while building ourselves up.
Basically it is the same situation with Aquila, preemptive strike before we are to powerful.
 
Maybe there should be a 'Stockpile Food/Preservation' option or something somewhere in the next turn? Considering the frozen sections of farmland things...

Idk, my two cents to this convo is very short, lol. *shrugs*
 
Asmodemus said:
What pic was the basis for this?
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Pop Team Epic. It's a goldmine for memes and shitposts.

Markala said:
Maybe there should be a 'Stockpile Food/Preservation' option or something somewhere in the next turn? Considering the frozen sections of farmland things...

Idk, my two cents to this convo is very short, lol. *shrugs*
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I mean it's a valid point to make. We've figured out alcohol, I'm pretty sure we can figure out pickling, eventually.
 
does anyone think the fridge or freezer is a thing yet?
if not it would preserve food.
get filled with junk that no one will eat.
 
Adventwolf said:
That might actually kill him assuming he doesn't just mist form and runs away instead.
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I did not think I could of come up with a good idea.
ChaosRuneSmith said:
Can't have the Sealed Evil in a Can escape if the can is a solid cube of anti-magic metal
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That is if he is not dead from the magic that would keep him alive does not get disrupted.

Evaunit02mark1 said:
Someone get this man some funding, that's the kind of go to spirit and twisted thinking we need on this planning department. Bet if he's in charge of Evil Overlord disposal we won't have a recurring "Sealed evil escaping" problem that the damn ponies seem to get every other week.
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I was about to dissagree and regret what I said when you used the word "twisted". That is until I remembered that I thought of molten Orichaclum because it would be fun to watch Sombra helplessly struggle while he sinks, but only if I did not have to do it head first.

I think you could be more qualified ffor the job, though.
 
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berryy2 said:
does anyone think the fridge or freezer is a thing yet?
if not it would preserve food.
get filled with junk that no one will eat.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Unlike Ponykind Griffins and Diamond Dogs are omnivorous, someone's had to have had the bright idea that "hey, cold meat lasts longer than warm meat."

Hmm, speaking off, I'd be surprised if we don't already have smoking capabilities too. Smoked fish tends to last a good minute if you do it right.

Zavvnao said:
I was about to dissagree and regret what I said when you used the word "twisted". That is until I remembered that I thought of molten Orichaclum because it would be fun to watch Sombra helplessly struggle while he sinks, but only if I did not have to do it head first.

I think you could be more qualified
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Now now, no need to be modest. We've all invented an inventive way to kill our enemies from time to time after all.

Besides, the fucker has it coming.
 
I just did some rewatching and I know how to stop Sombra, we need to sneak a baby dragon with its parental/sibling figure into the crystal castle to steal the hidden artifact, then the baby dragon will jump off the castle while we throw our wife like a javelin to catch the baby and rally the crystal ponies to defeat Sombra, it's foolproof;)
 
Unfortunately I don't think we can simply wait and take Sombra on our terms. We may have sabotaged him but clearly he can make our lives miserable while we sit back and prepare and thousands of griffs will suffer. We rebuilt our army, we have the aid of the Qilin, Yaks and others, We know what he's done to his people, we know a lot that we can know about him. I normally don't suggest going to war especially with against a foe that we don't have a sure fire containment for... but this problem isn't going to go away, and Sombra won't just sit there letting us prepare.

I see two approaches:

One, Intrigue, attempt risky mission to hit that weakspot we located, and attempt to sabotage more of his assets. This is us taking a half measure, and given our efficiency of action we might get lucky and Deliver a decisive blow.

Two, War, We march to wage a campaign of war and liberation on the Crystal Empire.

I think our best bet... Is to do both. If we get lucky and ruin that black sphere thing so much the better. It is time for us to stop letting him bring the fight to us, it's time to bring the fight to him. We have to march South.
 
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Star said:
Half of our country is frozen and already on reservese. Now add army to it as well.We cannot have defending army active without food the same way as attacking one. Stretching reserves means exposing our people to starvation.
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The QM explicitly stated that we aren't at risk of famine. So until that changes stop fear-mongering.
 
we do have that fire magic expert now maybe we can do something like make frostpunk style heat generators to help beat back the cold? at the very least we may be able to keep the important things like the farms warm enough to keep the penalty low or maybe even negate it entirely if we get good enough rolls.
 
LordEdric said:
Now now, no need to be modest. We've all invented an inventive way to kill our enemies from time to time after all.

Besides, the fucker has it coming.
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Then I both am relieved and dissapointed that a simple application of Orichaclum can help deal with changelings/chrysalis, as it is less convoluted and beautifully simple, but does not let me show off.

As a side note, we might still have to face changelings one day, but at least they have an incentive to mess up Sombra due to facing a horrible starvation death in a world of emotionless drones.
 
Shoot, that rumor mill event fail is super not great. I'd say we need to either attack now or send out more spies/rangers to delve into the dark kings lands and break up his infrastructure. I'd be partial to an attack first since we have the crystal ponies intel on routes through the city itself, I would suggest we have our sabatours with a magic expert head in and see what they can do to fuck up the magical doodads that Sombra no doubt has stored away in the palace. If we can disrupt enough of his magical batteries I bet we could face a far weaker Sombra, even if he is incorporeal at the current time. I'd rather he be reduced to Sauron levels of usefulness since to be fair Sauron couldn't leave his dark tower Sombra can and I do not like that, I do not like that at all.
 
Zarion said:
The QM explicitly stated that we aren't at risk of famine. So until that changes stop fear-mongering.
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Correct but he does specifically mention we are relying on food imports from Neighpon to avoid famine. It's a bad idea to get overly reliant on food imports from a country across an ocean, whose ships could very well be affected by... oh... unseasonable and abnormal weather. I think we have to work to do something before Sombra's own intrigue rolls figure out to hit Neighpon Imports
 
No it is not the imports that are staving off famine it is all of our enhancements to our agricultural sector combined that is doing that. And the other half of our Empire still producing large amounts of food. combined with the massive increase we're getting next turn from both irrigation and the Western frontier being settled I think our food situation is fine. not great as it was before but not so bad that we need to immediately attack. as of now we don't have enough advantages to win an invasion. Right now people are just panicking because it is the first time something bad has happened since the end of the last war. We can handle this and so can our people.

Also Sombra has to attack us first at some point. I doubt he's going to be able to starve us out and we have a stronger and faster growth than him. We're going to need to keep sending our agents into his territory and if you want to attack we're basically going to have to force him to. Especially since it seems with his mind control I think only the Army might have a kill switch. It seems like the majority of those being mind-controlled is more of a set of instructions than him being in complete control. He set it up they do what they are programmed to do and he doesn't exert effort over it.
 
We will not win if we attack Sombra right now. We don't have the numbers. We now know that he is capable of commanding every civilian he has to fight our army and they'll do it, and if they'll have to fight with their bare hooves. Even with the Yaks and Kirin we'll be pushing 40.000 armed beings since we can't call in the militia for an attack. Sombra could easily throw twenty times that many bodies at us, and this time we don't have traps or fortifications. Victory is out of the question, even if you ignore the hostile terrain and weather that would ravage our logistics.

We're getting away with our small army size because of the defenders advantage, but if we want to attack we will first need to conscript every able bodied Griffon or Dog into the army.

You can't fight a nation like the Crystal Empire, which effectively has conscription and a total war economy with a small professional volunteer army.
 
The way I see it, while a war of attrition favors us right now, that might not be the case in the future. The biggest advantage Sombra has over us is magic, such as his own power, and his abominations, while our best counter to that is both in limited supply and hard to work with. Any plan going forward should prioritize both the gaining of more orichalcum mines, and better equipment and techniques to work the material.
 
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