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You got a point. Still think we need a to rush his defenses if only to hasten the end of Sombre as a threat, nor should we go for a total army wipe like in the Winter War.
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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You got a point. Still think we need a to rush his defenses if only to hasten the end of Sombre as a threat, nor should we go for a total army wipe like in the Winter War.
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No not even the heart will restore the land. It isn't frozen in magic it has been killed off by the natural results of unending frost storms that have lasted nonstop for decades. Anything that lived there is long dead and gone. Magic is not a fix everything tool. The land will take a long time and a lot of effort to repair in the form of decades of work or centuries without our interference. We have gone over this alot already go back and read it. I think it is three or four pages where we had our last discussion on it.
No, the next battle will need to be a total wipe unless Sombra retreats after trying to break our defenses before he loses everything again. The next battle is going to be a defensive one again unless something major happens that makes invading the greater move. Which unless that is Sombra is getting attacked by a powerful other kingdom and we take advantage to go steal the heart and try to smash that orb it is not going to happen.
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Heh... It might be worthwhile to make Orichalcum claws and blunt pole arms and Yak helms of Orichalcum. Honestly it would strike me as very MLP if a massive battle over the fate of the Crystal Empire is decided by a bunch of Griffons and Yaks getting into a slap fight with the ponies to disrupt the helms.
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The crystal heart is a plot rock getting rid of sombra and the wendigos freeing the ponies and with help from all the different magic users we might be able to restore the land again to condemn an entire huge country is foolhardy with the lack of info we have and even if it is a multi decade project to restore it that would still be worthwhile for the mineral resources if nothing else
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Intrigue actions are broken, we should just send someone to steal the heart and let the ponies use it.
You know what scares me about the breeding and mind control is that they is a book in the animorphs series that has this exact situation, where the conquered race(human) are breed and raised to be mind slaves, except the conquers take better care of their meat puppets
You know what scares me about the breeding and mind control is that they is a book in the animorphs series that has this exact situation, where the conquered race(human) are breed and raised to be mind slaves, except the conquers take better care of their meat puppets
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Sorry about that, was a miscalculation. Fixed.
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You're forgetting that
- there's no guarantee that we can kill him even with Orichalcum weapons. His near-immortality isn't an externally manifested magic that we can simply disrupt, but more of an internal racial trait, similar to gryphon flight.
- if we disrupt the mind control on Sombra's side, the crystal ponies all die:
The only way to save someone is by disrupting the armor itself.
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I don't know whats more scary when I think on that one. That he has yet to have "the stroke of genius" to do that... or that HE ALREADY DONE IT AND DISCOVERED PRION DISEASE. (mad cow disease is a type of prion disease, happens often with cannibalism.)
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He probably didn't think about it because pony are (I assume) mostly vegetarians.
I'm kind of annoyed by how many rules of the evil overlord list sombra is breaking though.
I mean, there is no reason to throw away his slaves lives. They're a valuable resource!
Feed them and let them rest just enough that they don't die and can continue serving you!
Your Kumagawa side is showing again, Pittauro xD
but yeah... I guess in his disturbed mind, losses are akin to a bruise on his arm. "don't worry it will grow back"
And if you consider all your slaves as basically a extension of your body and has no pain receptors... well.
Ends up badly.
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You say it like it's a bad thing
EDIT Both as a villain and as a hero he has the best lines
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I see some want to go for a total wipe off Sombra's Empire and killing as many Cristal ponies as possible/nessisary for us to kill him.
I personally think we should save as many as we can for several reasons.
First and obviously is that genocidein an entire race of mind controlled innocence leaves me(and probably many of you ) feeling like sewerage.
The next ones are more practical, they are a magical race and would benefit the Empire. Having saved them will put us in the goddess of ponies good books. We'll have their (Cristal Ponies) loyalty and gratitude for freezing them. That in of it's self makes the effort worth it
To ensure that the Cristal Ponies survive as a species we'll need save about 700 to 1000 ponies minimum .
As for where I got those numbers I once red that if an apocolips happened 700 people are needed to keep a stable gean pool to restart humanity.
Now Ponies aren't Humans so we might need more.
Just keep this in mind for the future please.
I personally think we should save as many as we can for several reasons.
First and obviously is that genocidein an entire race of mind controlled innocence leaves me(and probably many of you ) feeling like sewerage.
The next ones are more practical, they are a magical race and would benefit the Empire. Having saved them will put us in the goddess of ponies good books. We'll have their (Cristal Ponies) loyalty and gratitude for freezing them. That in of it's self makes the effort worth it
To ensure that the Cristal Ponies survive as a species we'll need save about 700 to 1000 ponies minimum .
As for where I got those numbers I once red that if an apocolips happened 700 people are needed to keep a stable gean pool to restart humanity.
Now Ponies aren't Humans so we might need more.
Just keep this in mind for the future please.
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Our newest intrigue option gave us a more... humane way to disrupt the battle flow. Merely a hammer or blunted rapier or whatever fast weapon with reach (maybe a spear?) with enough orichalcum on the tip and the soldiers will go from disabled to very confused to free in the middle of the fight. We can put do that by air with griphons or with dogs making holes in the middle of the enemy lines. I don't know how easily Sombra can reassert his influence but that will force him to divide his attention (or, better, he can't do it in the heat of battle).
In all honesty we hit the jackpot on this, magic IS his single point of failure, and while we are assuming he can brute force against orichalcum to some extent it will, at the very least, be extremely insulting to him that we can deprive him of his strengh. Rage YOLO mark 2 incoming.
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We will save those we can. But the next battle will be the same as the last one at Redstone Pass. A defensive fight from prepared fortifications that will most likely end in Sombra letting his army die again. If he is smarter this time then he will retreat before his army is completely wiped out but if he doesn't we will have to kill them. Trying to capture enemy forces when they have no intention to stop trying to kill you is a extremely unnecessary risk despite the unfortunate consequences of that action. I also very much doubt we're going to be able to genocide the entire Crystal Empire. Like I said unless Sombra has a kill switch for all of them there are going to be survivors. The action we took to capture some is nowhere near the number we need to save enough of them. Now that we know that there is the heart in the catacombs we have another option on how to stop him. But the Empire itself is worthless to us the land is dead, nothing grows there, and the mines are the only thing that might be worth it and that's only if they have a ridiculous amount of resources. If not everyone moves into our territory. I've never said we need to genocide or even kill them all I said it was likely we're going to kill a lot of them. Because like I said mind-controlled slaves that have no will of their own means they will get in the way trying to kill our people. While it's fucked up that is the reality of the situation. We cannot risk our own people trying to save them until after Sombra has been removed. There is a time and place for compassion and it is once the enemy has been beaten, and you can raise them up they're not going to be able to stay in their own lands anyways.
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Current "how to deal with Sombra" plan
1)try to sabotage the mines again, frustrate Sombra into attacking to stop us from our constant intrigue hits. If their security is too high maybe try to free more isolated prisoners.
2)we fight on the defensive. We should win
3)counterattack
3bis) while fighting we send two small stealth elite team to recover/destroy 1) the crystal heart 2) the black orb thingy on the tower (assuming they're different objects. These would probably need to be diamond dogs and/or kitsune, thanks to their digging and illusion abilities.
1)try to sabotage the mines again, frustrate Sombra into attacking to stop us from our constant intrigue hits. If their security is too high maybe try to free more isolated prisoners.
2)we fight on the defensive. We should win
3)counterattack
3bis) while fighting we send two small stealth elite team to recover/destroy 1) the crystal heart 2) the black orb thingy on the tower (assuming they're different objects. These would probably need to be diamond dogs and/or kitsune, thanks to their digging and illusion abilities.
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They are from what the update told us the catacombs holds the only weapon/object that Sombra fears. The Crystal Heart is something that has always hurt him so that is what would be down there. The only other possibility is Radiant Heart is kept a prisoner down there and it is more Sombra cannot bring himself to kill her.
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Tbf, he might or might not be having a breakdown. By Word Of God, we know he consumed some of his people in the purge, and got some of their power added to his power. Maybe, the people he eat are not as gone as we thought. Or as of the omake, A Light At the Heart of Darkness, maybe Radiant Hope's theory that Sombre's conscious is finally beginning to effect him is in fact true.
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So this might be an odd question but I figure one worth investigating.
Did the Crystal Ponies tell us of anything of Sombra's underground operations?
How long would it take to build a tunnel from the City of Lanner to the outskirts of the Crystal Capital with Diamond Dog digging teams? or perhaps just to the other side of the Peregrines
Did the Crystal Ponies tell us of anything of Sombra's underground operations?
How long would it take to build a tunnel from the City of Lanner to the outskirts of the Crystal Capital with Diamond Dog digging teams? or perhaps just to the other side of the Peregrines
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We can not turn it into dust or sand so that is both impossible and waste even if we could. Sand size particles would do absolutely nothing. Why would they the metal is not something with a massive effect or range so breaking it down into such small pieces wastes the very limited amount of it we have.
Sombra doesn't go into the catacombs he locked away the one thing he fears down there.
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on both- being unable to grind it to particles with an Orichalcum rasp or millstone
- the effect depending on particle size instead of total mass per crystal pony
How is "Sombra doesn't go there" relevant for how extensive and interconnected the underground of their capital is?
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Nachtigall why would it? Does it make sense for it to work like that? This isn't a magical metal it is a metal that disrupts the natural energies of magic, As for why we can't grind it down because it is the hardest and toughest metal we have. It took a blast furnace reaching insane levels of heat to even melt it down. We also do not have a large amount so turning it into dust is the most wasteful thing we could do. The QM already shot that idea down because we don't have enough of the stuff.
- being unable to grind it to particles with an Orichalcum rasp or millstone
- the effect depending on particle size instead of total mass per crystal pony
How is "Sombra doesn't go there" relevant for how extensive and interconnected the underground of their capital is?
The question wasn't about how extensive the catacombs are or how connected they were. The question was about Sombra's operations underground which he has none because he put something that he fears down there. That means he isn't going to be doing things down there. Next time read the whole question and answer before you go off.
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On dust, there's a chance it would work, if we ever found a way to grind it. maybe something like diamond sandpaper...? Small dust sized particles may not do much... Could work like magnets. small size still has the same properties, but wouldn't negate nearly as much.
Ive noticed ya tends to have a very set way of thinking, in a "no, it is absolutely like this" kinda way. not to say anything against ya, just you tend to insert what you believe to be true as undisputed fact. There's a line of logic to it we can follow, but whether it be correct or not is up to QM in the end.
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Because I like to keep things grounded. Not because I think it is the best but because that is the simplest and most likely outcome. Can it be completely wrong, yes but generally there is a very good reason why it went against what would normally have been the result.
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Like I said, nothing against ya. thanks for explaining why you do so. Just feels off to me personally whenever ya do that...
Back to writing omakes. Hope I can finish this one before the next voting block...