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So i suppose a hundred years war with Equestria is a about to happen.
Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest
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ExNihilo
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- USA
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- He/Him
Let's hope not, they're a little further away than Britain, and also have two hero (demigod?) Tier units that we haven't even a dream of countering, barring allying the changelings or something.
I thought they were more America-ish anyway, but IDK.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Actually we have extremely little knowledge about any and all territories outside of Griffin lands. Blame Discord since due to his antics, long range exploration/travel would not be advised in any way, shape or form..
So even if we as a civilization know about/have records of the ponies, we have no way of knowing if they're still alive.
ExNihilo
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- USA
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We have boats now, I say we send them out on a scouting mission. Celestia and Luna have already figured out friendship=magic by this point, yes? Freak out the Aquileias, get a trade partner, what's not to like?
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- Castle Drakenhof
How about we achieve a pan-griffonian state before we contact the demigods who might have issues with what could be perceived as bullying weaker states into submission.
Now, I doubt they'd get all interventionist at this stage of the game, and I doubt they'd do anything even if they wanted to, but still. For the sake of absolute certainty in the security of our future kingdom.
ExNihilo
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My big fear is not being first, mostly. Getting a foot in the door, even in a "Hi trading partners, we're here and not evil" goes a long way if some Aquileans show up and start bad-mouthing us for support.
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- Castle Drakenhof
That's a fair point. We should we if we can get an exploratory mission out, if nothing more pressing comes up. Considering the escalating situation with Aquileia, I don't want to send our diplomats out on a long term mission.
ExNihilo
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- USA
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It's a long term goal, but acquiring some ponies would do wonders to our economy. Clear sky and favorable winds boosts crops and fleets, along with earth pony farm magic, why, they're probably multipliers on our income.
And I mean acquire as in through immigration and economic benefits, not kidnapping, obviously, I'm not sure how literal raising the sun and moon is here, and I don't want to be on the receiving end of any of it.
- Location
- MN
not going to lie, I'm hoping at some point we can build weather machines to place around out land to help crops grow as well as acting as a defensive line for our kingdom. I mean if we can call down tornados and lighting storms at will to defend our boarders we'd be a lot bigger threat to our enemies. Hell even just bringing down a large downpour of rain would cripple an enemy ground based army as the rain would drain the enemy army's energy, mudding up the roads would slow them down and make it almost imposable for heavy equipment to travel, and the constant rain would really wear on their gear. by having high winds we could also hurt enemy air operations. And if we could make said machines small enough to be placed on airships we could use the machines offensively as well.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Remember that griffins are utterly without magic.
Ergo any 'weather machine' we make would have to be technological in nature. That means we need to advance through the Medieval, past the Renaissance and Industrial, tear through the Information Age and beyond to finally get the tech to do any sort of real weather control.
We will be very lucky (and/or grinding the tech tree to the expense of everything else) to get to the industrial age within the life-time of our current character and/or the next generation.
Any sort of weather control in the meantime will involve groups of mercenary pegasi.
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- Location
- Back in Cali
We can't us magic but we can get other that can eventually. Also technological progress is weird in this world. Though I do agree we will not be able to push it too far in our own lifetime. That is why we are setting up a Dynasty after all. We can learn to utilize magic enchanted items and use them to push our technology. All we need to do is find some magical creatures that are willing to join us.
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- Maryland
The father in law is actually based on a real historical figure. Federico Montefeltro, Duke of Urbino. He's a fascinating character.
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- Maryland
+15 to any vote of your choice in the coming turns! You wrote their first meeting better than I ever could have! Thank you so much!
In comparison to who? There are indeed writers who can bring a conversation to life. However the overwhelming majority can't. Even ignoring the ones who can barely spell it is a rare author who can give characters their own individual voices and write an organic dialogue. Your dialogue was fairly flat and uninspired. But the structure and grammar were solid which puts you above average.
If you don't try you won't get better.
On the other hand Durin managed to write half a million words of Quest without, as far as I can recall, more than a dozen sentences worth of speech. So clearly it isn't an essential skill.
True. Given some of the BS Discord managed I would not be surprised if the world maps need updating now he has stopped playing ping-pong with landmasses.
ExNihilo
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Oh damn, the daughter of the mercenary so badass people paid him a retainer to not fight with them, and then turned around and used the money to start a proto-Renaissance in a random mountain village. Yeah, getting that guy as an ally can only be good.
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- Back in Cali
I think this is exactly what happened. While we knew what was around us before discord came around. Since then things were moved, destroyed, whole new creations and when it ended they all just dropped where they were. No map outside our own lands is accurate anymore.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Ah that guy. Extra History did a video on him.
Yeah if Montefeathertro is anything like his IRL counterpart, we'll probably have a good ally in the League considering standard SV policy (push the advancement of technology, white-knight behavour etc).
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- Back in Cali
I was just watching that video actually. Very glad we went with this guy. It is probably the best way to boost into early Renaissance tech.
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- MN
yeah I know but we can still use enchantments and in the show the griffons got their talons on a artifact that could make gold from nothing. As in it created mass. It is well within the realm of possibility here that the griffons here could get their talons on something to let them control the weather. Also yes I am aware that such technology would more then likely be closer to end game tech.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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- Canada
Not to mention potentially forging a universal Griffin culture/identity (let's face it, that sort of thing kind of fell on the wayside with Discord running amuck). Because at the moment the Griffins identify as Wingbardy, Aquileia, Feathersian or Griffonia. Not exactly a conductive environment and mentality towards creating one unified kingdom.
I mean sure we could conquer the other countries but that wouldn't lead to true unification unless we wiped out their entire culture and memory of who they used to be. And that route's honestly a little to Evil Empire(tm) for my taste.
Instead we could need the people to want to unify by connecting through common ideals etc.
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- Back in Cali
I say we do what the RL Duke did. We could do it in our own land or just make sure Urbirdo remains intact and safe to be the light in this world. With at least two sons and his daughter married to us the dukedom is pretty secure. If the Duke is the same learned man as his inspiration we got a very good way to spread pan-griffon ideals. It can become our future center of learning. There is just so many things we can do. We don't need to go on a conquest to make this work. Trade, diplomacy, and being willing to help and turning problems into assets. If we can get the diamond dogs less feral tribes on our side that takes a major drain on our people away.
- Location
- Pallet town, Kanto
you can't make an empire without doing a few so called bad action's.
ExNihilo
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- USA
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The more we do, though, the less unified our empire, and the more likely our nation gets a nice sunfire bath. Empire might not be pretty, doesn't mean we shouldn't minimize it.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Well of just removing them from Griffin lands. So far the species as a whole hasn't shown much interest in co-existence instead then raiding and slave-taking.
- Location
- Castle Drakenhof
At the very least, we're going to need to fight a single decisive war against Aquileia, and absorbing their lands while we're still using the feudal system. They're the only group we can't bring in diplomatically.