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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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Zarion said:
@banjo2E @Microtec1 @NoMoreScarecrow @berryy2 @The Bean @x0Nothing0x @Nate700 @Nachtigall

Do any of you want to combine your votes with Rebuild and Expand to beat the current leader?
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You do know that we only aren't taking military option from that plan in let the lm grieve?
You basically want to go into depth, a thing that is frowned upon by the populous and can cost as the crown if taken to much.

While on other hand with let them grieve we are letting people mourn their losses and will get profit from the plan next turn giving us founds to take military option and more.
 
Zarion said:
@Nachtigall
Do any of you want to combine your votes with Rebuild and Expand to beat the current leader?
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I already did:
Nachtigall said:
[X] Plan: Rebuild and Expand
[X] Plan Industrialization
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I didn't switch to Rebuild and Expand since I consider the logging action time sensitive (as explained in that post), but I voted for both.

BTW, mass-pinging to convince people of changing their votes is considered somewhat impolite unless key information behind the vote changed. Doing it twice for the same vote...
 
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Star said:
You do know that we only aren't taking military option from that plan in let the lm grieve?
You basically want to go into depth, a thing that is frowned upon by the populous and can cost as the crown if taken to much.

While on other hand with let them grieve we are letting people mourn their losses and will get profit from the plan next turn giving us founds to take military option and more.
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No, according to the QM the people don't care if we go into debt, it only matters if the debt sticks around over multiple turns. The plan also lets people mourn just as much, rebuilding the military does nothing to stop people grieving whatsoever.
 
Zarion said:
No, according to the QM the people don't care if we go into debt, it only matters if the debt sticks around over multiple turns. The plan also lets people mourn just as much, rebuilding the military does nothing to stop people grieving whatsoever.
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Funny enough I actually agree with the "let them mourn" not being a relevant argument.

Still, even ignoring debt preferences, delaying the army for one turn does come with reduced costs in the form of reduced hiring costs and upkeep starting later.
 
Zarion said:
No, according to the QM the people don't care if we go into debt, it only matters if the debt sticks around over multiple turns. The plan also lets people mourn just as much, rebuilding the military does nothing to stop people grieving whatsoever.
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Still there really is no need to go into depth. We had expensive options before and we still took them when we had a time.
 
Pittauro said:
Funny enough I actually agree with the "let them mourn" not being a relevant argument.

Still, even ignoring debt preferences, delaying the army for one turn does come with reduced costs in the form of reduced hiring costs and upkeep starting later.
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True, but I still like the idea of having our military ready, it can be useful for dealing with any monsters that are still in our land.
 
Zarion said:
@banjo2E @Microtec1 @NoMoreScarecrow @berryy2 @The Bean @x0Nothing0x @Nate700 @Nachtigall

Do any of you want to combine your votes with Rebuild and Expand to beat the current leader?
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The entire reason I went to the effort of building a plan myself in the first place was because I wanted to finally get those goddamn trees chopped down. Which neither of the leading votes has, of course.

...Why is everyone so averse to the wood, anyway? It's a one-turn income-boosting action as opposed to the two-turn actions the other votes have, and it costs significantly less money as well.
 
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banjo2E said:
The entire reason I went to the effort of building a plan myself in the first place was because I wanted to finally get those goddamn trees chopped down. Which neither of the leading votes has, of course.
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Don't we have to send our soldiers out to kill some of the monsters in order for us to cut the trees down?
 
banjo2E said:
The entire reason I went to the effort of building a plan myself in the first place was because I wanted to finally get those goddamn trees chopped down. Which neither of the leading votes has, of course.
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The reason I went with the swamps in my plan was that I wanted to start the longer options early, but next turn we would have a stewardship slot open to use on logging.
 
Shadow-86 said:
Don't we have to send our soldiers out to kill some of the monsters in order for us to cut the trees down?
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Sure, but at least some of that wood would be going straight into the military supply chain. And if it's numbers that are the concern, I doubt we'd need more than 30 people at most for it. We could probably do with with more like 10.
 
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banjo2E said:
Sure, but at least some of that wood would be going straight into the military supply chain. And if it's numbers that are the concern, a single squad would probably be enough for our initial operations, and that's like, 10 people.
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I was actually thinking that we let the new recruits do it in order to earn some experience once we fix our army.
 
Well its been 2 hours lets see the tally
Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Feb 21, 2019 at 1:48 PM, finished with 194 posts and 61 votes.
  • [X] Plan: Let them grieve
    [X] Plan: Rebuild and Expand
    [X] Plan Industrialization
    -[X] The Peregrine Line-Watchtowers
    -[X] Licking Wounds
    -[X] The Neighborly Thing to Do
    -[X] Tomb of Fallen Heroes
    -[X] I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK
    -[X] Coke-Fired Blast Furnaces
    -[X] Cannon Foundry
    -[X] Into the Storm
    -[X] Getting Swole
    -[X] Combing the Archives
    [X] Plan: The Southern Wall
    -[X] Hans, Get the Flamethrower: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: +4 Static Flame Projectors
    -[X] The Peregrine Line-Watchtowers: Cost: 1000. Time: Two Years. Reward: Southern Border Watchtowers built, removes possibility of surprise attacks, may discourage raids into core territory.
    -[X] The Neighborly Thing to Do: Cost: 1000. Time: One Year. Reward: Better relations with Yak Clans, Yaks gain access to steel tools, armor and weapons. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] Tomb of Fallen Heroes: Cost: 800. Time: One Year. Reward: War Memorial Constructed, Bonus to morale and certain combat rolls.
    -[X] I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK: Cost: 150. Time: One Year. Reward: Logging income. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] Coke-Fired Blast Furnaces: Cost: 600. Time: Two Years. Reward: Increased Iron/Steel Production, new Learning Actions Unlocked, Can now Smelt Orichalcum.
    -[X] Cannon Ships: Cost: 100. Reward: New Ship Class Designed.
    -[X] Yakity Yak: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: New Intel on Yak Clans and the Fallout from the Winter War, possibility of new Intrigue Options. Chance of Success: 60%
    -[X] Getting Swole: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Increased martial stat, chance to upgrade Toned Trait, chance to improve Gabriella's opinion of you. Chance of Success: 55%
    -[X] Small Blades: Cost: 50. Time: One Year. Reward: Master-Crafted Daggers for Gawain and Gwyndlyn.
    [X] Recovery
    [X] Plan Recovery and Reparations.
    [X] Gun-Cotton: Black Powder weapons are powerful, but they have some flaws, one of the most significant of which is the massive amount of smoke they produce. Archimedes believes he may have stumbled upon a solution. When paper or cloth is soaked in aqua fortis and sulfuric acid and then dried, the resulting material produces more than three times the force of a similar volume of blackpowder with much less smoke. Of course, finding a way to mass produce the stuff and apply it to your cannons is a difficult task, one that Archimedes will need time and funding to perform. Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Gun-Cotton developed, +5 to all Cannon Rolls.
    [X] Yakity Yak: The Yaks showcased their strength when they fought alongside you and yours at the Battle of Redstone Pass. They proved to be great allies...but they could also become a powerful enemy if things were to go wrong. The war has stirred up the Yaks' cultural and political landscape. You need to know what exactly is going on in the lands of your Western
    [X] The Peregrine Line-Watchtowers: You snagged a victory and prevented an invasion of your country by the skin of your beak, and it was a costly victory at that. You're not stupid enough to think that you've seen the last of that foe forever, and if you have to worry about another invasion you're going to need serious fortifications along your Southern Border. Your military leaders have drawn up a multi-year step-by-step plan to turn the Peregrine mountains into a nearly impassible fortress. The first step, much like the plan to fortify the Black Cliffs, begins with watchtowers. Well, technically they're watchtowers but they're more like miniature forts designed to act as signaling stations. The squadrons of soldiers assigned to these defenses won't be able to repel any significant assaults, but they'll discourage infiltration and raids into your territory, and give vital warning in the event of another border assault. And they will serve as the foundation for a much larger and more impressive set of fortifications. Cost: 1000. Time: Two Years. Reward: Southern Border Watchtowers built, removes possibility of surprise attacks, may discourage raids into core territory.
    [X] Combing the Archives: The Imperial Archives hold many secrets and much wisdom. It contains not only reams upon reams of records from recent years, but also what scraps of information have been recovered from the ruins of Pre-Discord civilization. Perhaps some of these decaying scraps of old parchment could contain bits of knowledge relevant to you in the present? Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Chance to gain information and knowledge from Pre-Discord Records.
    [X] Coke-Fired Blast Furnaces: Iron and Steel are the lifeblood of your economy, constituting everything from tools to building materials to weapons. However, they are difficult to produce in vast amounts. The only reason your people have been able to do so thus far is because of the sheer amount of ore available to you in your mountains, and the number of mining and smelting operations currently underway as a result. Genevieve has come up with a potential solution to allow for greater production of these metals. Using coal that has been treated in much the same way wood is treated to produce charcoal, a new form of dense, cleaner-burning fuel can be used to heat a new kind of massive, vertical smelting furnace the size of a building with a much greater output of metals. Naturally, this will be expensive, but Genevieve states that the increased metal production will be necessary to allow for greater innovation and widespread implementation of new devices, not to mention the smelting of this new "Orichalcum". Cost: 600. Time: Two Years. Reward: Increased Iron/Steel Production, new Learning Actions Unlocked, Can now Smelt Orichalcum.
    [X] Steam Pumped Land Drainage: Due to the mountainous and heavily forested nature of the Griffonlands, arable land is often at a premium. If one wishes to establish a farm, one must clear the land of trees (and the beasts that live among them), or risk trying to farm on rocks. There are a handful of places in the Empire that would be prime farmland were they not flooded or otherwise too wet to plant crops on. Ordinarily these lands would be impossible to drain, but Archimedes' new Steam Pump offers a new potential option for land drainage. It'll be expensive and time consuming, but the extra agricultural output just might be worth it. Cost: 500. Time: Two Years. Reward: Water-logged areas cleared, additional farming income.
    [X] Tomb of Fallen Heroes: Thousands of Imperial citizens died in defense of their homeland at Redstone Pass. And, the world being the dangerous place that it is, thousands more are likely to give their lives in service to the Empire at some point in the near-future. Such sacrifice deserves more than a simple headstone or makeshift memorial in a town square. It deserves a monument. A hall of ancestors greater than any other in the Empire, a building like the great temples of the ancient Gods. The honored dead deserve no less. Cost: 800. Time: One Year. Reward: War Memorial Constructed, Bonus to morale and certain combat rolls.
    [X] Eastern Expedition: You don't really know anything about them, but they haven't done anything to harm your people, which already places them a league ahead of your Southern Neighbor. Send a ship and some volunteer diplomats to make contact and establish some sort of diplomatic relations. At the very least, it would be nice to know that you don't have to worry about a war on two fronts. Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Contact made with Eastern Neighbors. Chance of Success: 80%
    [X] Licking Wounds: Your Forces were ravaged at the battle of Redstone Pass. Thousands of Griffons, Dogs and Yaks were killed in the defense of their homes. The enemy may have been defeated, but the Dark King is still out there, and you've no idea what state he or his slave-kingdom are in. If he returns before you can rebuild your forces, you won't stand a chance. The casualty rates from the battle were a shock to your people...but they know that any war against your Southern Neighbor is a war for the very survival of your culture. If you call for citizens to fill the ranks of your army, you know that they shall answer. Cost: 3560. Time: One Year. Reward: Army returned to Pre-War Numbers.
    [X] Plan: There is a delay
    -[X] Hans, Get the Flamethrower: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: +4 Static Flame Projectors
    -[X] The Peregrine Line-Watchtowers: Cost: 1000. Time: Two Years. Reward: Southern Border Watchtowers built, removes possibility of surprise attacks, may discourage raids into core territory.
    -[X] The Neighborly Thing to Do: Cost: 1000. Time: One Year. Reward: Better relations with Yak Clans, Yaks gain access to steel tools, armor and weapons. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] I'm a Lumberjack and I'm OK: Cost: 150. Time: One Year. Reward: Logging income. Chance of Success: 70%
    -[X] Imperial Brew: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward:
    Government Controlled Breweries. Gain Alcohol Sales Income. May raise Peasant Opinion. May lower Peasant Opinion. 50% chance of either outcome.​
    -[X] Cannon Foundry: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: Cannon Foundry Constructed, additional Learning and Martial Actions Unlocked.
    -[X] Gun-Cotton: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Gun-Cotton developed, +5 to all Cannon Rolls.
    -[X] Yakity Yak: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: New Intel on Yak Clans and the Fallout from the Winter War, possibility of new Intrigue Options. Chance of Success: 60%
    -[X] Getting Swole: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Increased martial stat, chance to upgrade Toned Trait, chance to improve Gabriella's opinion of you. Chance of Success: 55%
    -[X] Combing the Archives: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Chance to gain information and knowledge from Pre-Discord Records.
    [X] Getting Swole: One of the numerous reasons you refused to fight Brochard was that he was so much stronger than you. A blade and a suit of armor mitigated that advantage a great deal, but it didn't remove it completely. You trained with your wife not long ago, and that training showed results, but the results weren't quite as big an improvement as you'd hoped. If you're going to be an Emperor worthy of the title, you need to be strong, especially if you're going to be throwing yourself into harms way like you did in the Winter War. Have Gabriella put you through an even more grueling fitness regimen and see if you can't improve your physique a bit more. Just because she's pregnant doesn't mean she can't put you through your paces! Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Increased martial stat, chance to upgrade Toned Trait, chance to improve Gabriella's opinion of you. Chance of Success: 55%
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All I can say is I had hoped the yak settlement would have gotten done this turn, But I suppose that can wait for next turn.
 
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