In that case - and if we are using the militia as the first line in order to spare our regulars - I believe that having the militia act with discipline and better morale would be better for lessening casualties on them EDIT: rather than just having part of the line made out of elites. Discipline after all helps with keeping defensive formations.
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That's also an idea. I'm just not sure how big this pass is. Like... if the very front of our force is 3 lines deep of Knights, with militia behind them. That could do quite well. I'm not sure what would be better though.
I getcha. That is a problem I'm having too, not knowing how wide the battlefield is and all that.
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We could emulate the battle of Cannae. Militia in center, veterans to the flanks, so that when the militia falls back the enemy is not only flanked but in a position of our choosing, allowing us to maximize our explosive traps, with Knights and Yaks to clean up in the confusion... just a thought
Rockeye
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We have 5000 Pikemen in the regular army who are useful against cavalry and large units too
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[] plan: Spirit of the mountain
-[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
-[ ] The Bulwark: Place them at the very front of the formation, ensuring that they will be the first to engage with the enemy.
-[ ] Relief Charge: The Yaks shall be held in reserve, ready to reinforce a battered unit, shore up a flank, or cover a retreat or reorganization of the line.
We might want the Veterans on the front line. We are very outnumbered. The formation is likely to be breached or surrounded through bodies. A strong defence can handle dangerous situations.
-[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
-[ ] The Bulwark: Place them at the very front of the formation, ensuring that they will be the first to engage with the enemy.
-[ ] Relief Charge: The Yaks shall be held in reserve, ready to reinforce a battered unit, shore up a flank, or cover a retreat or reorganization of the line.
We might want the Veterans on the front line. We are very outnumbered. The formation is likely to be breached or surrounded through bodies. A strong defence can handle dangerous situations.
Yeah, I'm just concerned about how our lack of magic effects things. Will we be able to even hurt the enemy abomination forces at all? Or will they require flamethrowers/cannons and yaks to damage them?
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I'm just waiting for someone to think up a good plan but all I can say right now is that we need to HOLD THE LINE if they break through this is going to be a world war Z scenario as I have said before these ponies are not going to be limited by pain, being tired, and morale. There bodies will be going 100%! Nothing will stop them from bashing there heads against tons of rock in a flurry of blows quicker then anything we could do. If they break out lines EVERYTHING goes to shit.
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The battle of Cannae was led by a military genius, who had earned the trust and respect of veterans of numerous battles, and was on terrain suited for the tactics he chose. For most pre-modern commanders and armies, those sorts of tactics leads to routs far more often than impressive victories.
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Keep in mind these fuckers don't have a morale to break. Any charge is going to get bogged down and swarmed like a spider in an ant hill.
What we need to do is draw the bastards into the killing field, set off the bombs and then fight them in an advantageous position.
Solid wall in front, cannons in back, and when the majority of the force get's in position, set off the bombs, collapse the pass and then kill whatever manages to crawl it's charred corpse out of the rubble.
What we need to do is draw the bastards into the killing field, set off the bombs and then fight them in an advantageous position.
Solid wall in front, cannons in back, and when the majority of the force get's in position, set off the bombs, collapse the pass and then kill whatever manages to crawl it's charred corpse out of the rubble.
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Collapsing the pass will work for a time but either Sombra will use some telekinesis and start chucking those boulders at us or these guys will again as I keep saying doing a war world Z and climb over eatchother.
Rockeye
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Since we're facing a large army, Links in a Chain might be better for holding the line. Distribute the knights all the way across the front, so they support the line units holding back the tide of 100k enemies instead of being unassailable units in the middle.
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[] Staged Front
[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
[ ] Rapid Response: Hold them back, keeping them in reserve to plug gaps in the line and respond to changing circumstances.
[ ] Surprise Charge: The Yaks shall hide behind the palisades or the artificial hills, revealing themselves and bursting out to charge the enemy when the time is right.
Here is my suggested plan, we have our soldiers in front and supplement them with Militia and our Knights. The Yaks should do as nomads and flank, punishing the enemy whenever they show weakness.
Force them to divide their forces and fight on two fronts. They outnumber us and we need to remove that advantage whenever possible.
[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
[ ] Rapid Response: Hold them back, keeping them in reserve to plug gaps in the line and respond to changing circumstances.
[ ] Surprise Charge: The Yaks shall hide behind the palisades or the artificial hills, revealing themselves and bursting out to charge the enemy when the time is right.
Here is my suggested plan, we have our soldiers in front and supplement them with Militia and our Knights. The Yaks should do as nomads and flank, punishing the enemy whenever they show weakness.
Force them to divide their forces and fight on two fronts. They outnumber us and we need to remove that advantage whenever possible.
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[] Plan Hold the Pass
-[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
-[ ] Rapid Response: Hold them back, keeping them in reserve to plug gaps in the line and respond to changing circumstances.
-[ ] The Wall: The average Yak Warrior is basically a fur-covered boulder on legs. They shall join the defensive lines, forming an immovable object for the enemy to throw themselves against.
This is a narrow pass. The goal is to prevent the enemy from breaching the pass so that they can't make use of their superior numbers since they can only send some of their soldiers through the pass at a given time. In order to do this we need a solid line of defense which means veterans and Yaks. Knights are highly mobile so they should be the ones on reserve, not the yaks, in order to quickly plug any holes in the line of defense. Ideally veterans and yaks would hold the line while cannons and archers in the back fire. Collapsing the pass should be kept as either a last resort or until the very end of the battle since we don't want the enemy to regroup in terrain that's more advantageous for them. We will defeat them here or not at all.
-[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
-[ ] Rapid Response: Hold them back, keeping them in reserve to plug gaps in the line and respond to changing circumstances.
-[ ] The Wall: The average Yak Warrior is basically a fur-covered boulder on legs. They shall join the defensive lines, forming an immovable object for the enemy to throw themselves against.
This is a narrow pass. The goal is to prevent the enemy from breaching the pass so that they can't make use of their superior numbers since they can only send some of their soldiers through the pass at a given time. In order to do this we need a solid line of defense which means veterans and Yaks. Knights are highly mobile so they should be the ones on reserve, not the yaks, in order to quickly plug any holes in the line of defense. Ideally veterans and yaks would hold the line while cannons and archers in the back fire. Collapsing the pass should be kept as either a last resort or until the very end of the battle since we don't want the enemy to regroup in terrain that's more advantageous for them. We will defeat them here or not at all.
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I can agree with Hold the Pass. This isn't going to be a battle won with clever tactics, hell, it won't even be a battle at all. This is going to be a flood crashing against a dam, and seeing if the dam will hold. It's going to be a meatgrinder.
[] Plan Hold the Pass
[] Plan Hold the Pass
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Tithed_Verse
Vainglorious
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[X] Put both Militia and Veterans intermixed on the front: They should be supporting one another.
Knights
[X] Rapid Response: Hold them back, keeping them in reserve to plug gaps in the line and respond to changing circumstances.
Yaks
[X] Surprise Charge: The Yaks shall hide behind the palisades or the artificial hills, revealing themselves and bursting out to charge the enemy when the time is right.
Knights
[X] Rapid Response: Hold them back, keeping them in reserve to plug gaps in the line and respond to changing circumstances.
Yaks
[X] Surprise Charge: The Yaks shall hide behind the palisades or the artificial hills, revealing themselves and bursting out to charge the enemy when the time is right.
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we'll have to be smarter! we'll drop TWO ROCKS on the enemy! He'll never expect THAT!
i completely agree with this. In a battle against an untiring and unshakeable enemy who will NEVER surrender or try to escape we need to be VERY carefull about our army's morale. Distributing the knights between them will help with this, and they'd be less usefull that in the battle of wingbardy as response units anyway, The yaks are better for that in this case.
Links in the chain is particularly necessary if we actually put the militia in the front. As they are less trained they're the more likely to lose morale and try to escape/desert, especially as they'd suffer much higher casualties than any other of our groups.
two hours moratorium
two hours moratorium. can't vote yet
Rockeye
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[] Plan Hold the Pass Rockeye Version
-[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
-[ ] Links in a Chain: Scatter them individually throughout the frontline units, bolstering morale and ensuring discipline amongst the rank and file.
-[ ] The Wall: The average Yak Warrior is basically a fur-covered boulder on legs. They shall join the defensive lines, forming an immovable object for the enemy to throw themselves against.
I'm a little concerned that if the veterans break, the militia will panic. Because the Real Soldiers just got trounced.
-[ ] Veterans to the Front: The militia are here to supplement your already existing forces, not take their place on the battlefield. You must project a strong front, and to that end the veterans of the regular army will be placed as the first line of defense, with the militia in reserve to reinforce any areas in trouble.
-[ ] Links in a Chain: Scatter them individually throughout the frontline units, bolstering morale and ensuring discipline amongst the rank and file.
-[ ] The Wall: The average Yak Warrior is basically a fur-covered boulder on legs. They shall join the defensive lines, forming an immovable object for the enemy to throw themselves against.
I'm a little concerned that if the veterans break, the militia will panic. Because the Real Soldiers just got trounced.
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i like the plan, but still moratorium.
also i think that in any situations in which the veterans break, the militia would probably already be dead
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Rockeye
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Then again, I'm a little bit concerned that my plan doesn't leave us any elite backup. The only backup/reactionary force is the militia and the traps in the pass. I don't want to count on Sombra being stupid enough to not pull any tricks we need to respond to.
Tithed_Verse
Vainglorious
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[X]The tithe
-[X] Put both Militia and Veterans intermixed on the front: They should be supporting one another.
Knights
-[X] Links in a Chain: Scatter them individually throughout the frontline units, bolstering morale and ensuring discipline amongst the rank and file.
-[X] Relief Charge: The Yaks shall be held in reserve, ready to reinforce a battered unit, shore up a flank, or cover a retreat or reorganization of the line.
Doubling down on maximizing our morale.
-[X] Put both Militia and Veterans intermixed on the front: They should be supporting one another.
Knights
-[X] Links in a Chain: Scatter them individually throughout the frontline units, bolstering morale and ensuring discipline amongst the rank and file.
-[X] Relief Charge: The Yaks shall be held in reserve, ready to reinforce a battered unit, shore up a flank, or cover a retreat or reorganization of the line.
Doubling down on maximizing our morale.