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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BoneyM said:
For the sake of the guy that has to write it, I'll ask that the thread put some thought into trying to come up with some other magical doodad that could achieve the same end.
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I've long had this plan of working with earth elementalists to make the stone of a mountain come to life and start squishing enemies, or spawning stone warriors.

Then there is the plan to combine the stone warriors with the way that dwarven souls apparently linger for three days after death and our knowledge of binding apparitions to allow dead dwarves to possess a stone warrior body and defend themselves (and their hold) for three days.

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Bonus idea: ALL the shadows come to life and start trying to strangle enemies. Might also work to defend the inside of a dwarf hold from attacks from below.
 
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Mopman43 said:
Doof Warrior, Deathfang, basically the same, really.
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Sounds good on the surface, but we have to be realistic: we almost certainly cannot afford to hire him for our band. The expedition is paying out the nose for his normal services as it is!

Giving the bright and celestial mages the indignity honor of being our mad max props is much more feasible. :V
 
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NuclearConsensus said:
Also because these are the same Kul that spawned the last Everchosen and a little payback is in order. Stealing the goblet from them isn't enough humiliation. Another factor may be that, by wrecking the Kul's face hard enough on top of the goblet's loss, the other tribes might view them as weak and pounce on them, leading to more Kul wreckage.
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Ljiljana: Can the karzełki make the steam wagons do a... how do you say it... a "sick wheelie"? I wish all the world to know that the Kul are "loser nerds" and "punk-ass-bitches."
 
BoneyM said:
He smiles as the first of the silver reaches the ground. "Slaaksho Irnik will be well pleased. Much of this silver will become ornamentation that he is confident will be pleasing to Slaaneth. Our rewards will be grand. Slaakshami, Q'tlahs'itsu'aksho consorts, Q'qha'thashi'i mounts... who knows, perhaps even a favour from a Q'tlahsi'issho'akshami?" You conceal your wince at the terrible syllables of the Dark Tongue being spoken openly, and resolve not to mention this to the Dwarves.
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I don't think that this situation will develop as Slaaksho Irnik expects it to. Slaanesh probably wouldn't be too pleased after adding two and two and realizing that Irnik just greatly helped the Expedition that ruined his fun in Karak Vlag. No Q'tlahs'itsu'aksho consorts for poor Irnik. :D
 
NuclearConsensus said:
I am surprisingly unsurprised that Ljiljana is going loud and hard on the Kul. She'd already given me the impression of having no chill despite being an ice witch, given that she'd implied her death is worth it to steal the goblet. Also because these are the same Kul that spawned the last Everchosen and a little payback is in order. Stealing the goblet from them isn't enough humiliation. Another factor may be that, by wrecking the Kul's face hard enough on top of the goblet's loss, the other tribes might view them as weak and pounce on them, leading to more Kul wreckage.
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Definitely counting chickens, but if the Kul got jumped on, it might make it harder for them to chase us.
 
Klaus said:
I've long had this plan of working with earth elementalists to make the stone of a mountain come to life and start squishing enemies, or spawning stone warriors.

Then there is the plan to combine the stone warriors with the way that dwarven souls apparently linger for three days after death and our knowledge of binding apparitions to allow dead dwarves to possess a stone warrior body and defend themselves (and their hold) for three days.

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Bonus idea: ALL the shadows come to life and start trying to strangle enemies. Might also work to defend the inside of a dwarf hold from attacks from below.
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If we're discussing dubious superweapons as permanent infrastructure and not limiting ourselves to "things we can currently achieve", I've been quietly nursing a hope that we successfully invent the Fog of War spell (fog allies can see through), take the Rituals class and manage to permanently invest an important strategic chokepoint with it.

I bet the Waaaghs will be less enthusiastic about running into Black Fire Pass if they can't see a damn thing in there! And the Bretonnians will have a hard time blindly charging into Grey Lady Pass if no one can see how terribly heroic they're being - or any obstacles that'll break your horse's legs.
 
It is possible that the weird ass convoy with metal boxes and monstrous cavalry and a bunch of dwarves won't be the first suspect for what is clearly an attack by Kislev.

Unlikely, but possible.
 
picklepikkl said:
(I do quite love several ways that it's been done in pop culture; Pratchett for the witches and Butcher for the Faerie Queens spring to mind.)
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It really does turn up everywhere, even in non-fantasy. For example the Asari from Mass Effect. Their lifecycle goes from Maiden to Matron to Matriarch. Take a wild guess at what that blatantly took inspiration from.
 
Actually, Mathilde being who she is...

Wagons scream through the tundra. The thunder of cannons, the screams, the neighing of horses.
A Chaos Champion nears on the Volans, readying his giant demon axe to strike at the wheels. He's too close for cannons, and weaker projectiles are bouncing off his Chaos plate.
Mathilde, desperately: "WITNESS ME!"
Mathilde jumps off, bisecting the Champion with Branulhune as she does so.
All other Wizards, looking over the railings: "WITNESSED!"
Mathilde, behind them, dusting herself off: "Yeah, you better have, you can never have enough Dwarf/College rep"

Smoke and Mirrors is pretty good for such plays.
 
GrimTheMad said:
It is possible that the weird ass convoy with metal boxes and monstrous cavalry and a bunch of dwarves won't be the first suspect for what is clearly an attack by Kislev.

Unlikely, but possible.
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Mmmm. Our cover story is that we're Norscan, and the dwarves have been staying out of sight. The Kul might have heard about us from the Dolgan and Yusak, and it is, well, completely in character for one group of Chaos Warriors to steal Chaotic swag from another group. It's possible that what they end up believing is that Kislevites and Norscans made a deal? The fact that we're heading in the direction of Norsca sort of suggests that! If we end up starting beef between Norscans and Kurgans, well, that would be pretty neat.
NexusEye said:
It really does turn up everywhere, even in non-fantasy. For example the Asari from Mass Effect. Their lifecycle goes from Maiden to Matron to Matriarch. Take a wild guess at what that blatantly took inspiration from.
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yeah that's one interpretation i just facepalmed at instead of really appreciating; like most life-cycles-of-long-lived-sapients in fiction, it didn't make much sense to me and felt very out of place in the first game's attempt at verisimilitude.
 
picklepikkl said:
I meant to respond to this and I forgot: yeah, I agree. I'm still carrying the scars of a very frustrating conversation I had with a Wiccan about Hekate; I have, at times, flirted semi-seriously with Hellenic reconstructionist paganism (I am mostly Greek by descent), and I care very much about our primary sources and the archaeological evidence and what they say about how these deities were actually venerated historically. And then every time I encountered the paradigm as a "well obviously" in popular culture, it opened the wound right back up.

(I do quite love several ways that it's been done in pop culture; Pratchett for the witches and Butcher for the Faerie Queens spring to mind.)
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I know very much how you feel, though my interest lay in Germanic paganism (I'm four different varieties of Saxon descent). Though I have to say, I much prefer the typical pop-culture and Wiccan interpretations than... certain others which taint everything by association.

(Also, The Dresden Files is fucking amazing, and I'm in the middle of a series re-read at this very moment.)
 
picklepikkl said:
yeah that's one interpretation i just facepalmed at instead of really appreciating; like most life-cycles-of-long-lived-sapients in fiction, it didn't make much sense to me and felt very out of place in the first game's attempt at verisimilitude.
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At least it's not the Maiden, Mother, and Crone from Game of Thrones's Seven. Especially when there's a clear divide of three male faces, three female, and one gender less—the Stanger—but while the fenales are defined by their age the Males are defined by occupation.

Thoguh admittedly, that might be more to do with Westeros's culture surrounding women.
 
Poor Michel Solmann he's going to miss out on any Azyr inspiration from seeing the Ice Witch go all out, was suppose to be his goal for joining the trip seeing Ljiljana in all her nature's fury.
Hopefully he get a second chance.
 
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