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Honestly? I don't think I would accept it even then. Gotrek surviving would be a cop-out of the worst sort, and would make prior deaths due to bad rolls (including Abelheims!) feel far more arbitrary.
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Honestly? I don't think I would accept it even then. Gotrek surviving would be a cop-out of the worst sort, and would make prior deaths due to bad rolls (including Abelheims!) feel far more arbitrary.
I actually came up with an alt-Gotrek idea. Now picture this...
His wife becomes worst-slayer instead. Because a woman as amazing as she must be surely has the potential to take on the mantle that no dwarf wants.
EDIT: After the Expedition, I absolutely want to do "go visit Gotrek's wife to tell of his death" as a social action if we can find the excuse so we can meet her. Because I am damn curious.
His wife becomes worst-slayer instead. Because a woman as amazing as she must be surely has the potential to take on the mantle that no dwarf wants.
EDIT: After the Expedition, I absolutely want to do "go visit Gotrek's wife to tell of his death" as a social action if we can find the excuse so we can meet her. Because I am damn curious.
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Mopman43
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Main problem with that is that I don't see how she'd get the axe.
Bah, there's like a million magic gee-gaws in the Warhammer world. Felix found a magic sword that made him stop aging in like adventure #2. I'm sure she could find some other path to being a Legend. The magic axe helped Gotrek be Gotrek, but if Gotrek wasn't already Gotrek in his heart it could never have buffed his dwarf abs enough to make him Gotrek.
Mopman43
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There's a popular series of novels where he co-stars. People are fond of the character.
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From my understanding, he's one of the most popular and well known characters in Warhammer.
And 'not dying' was his defining characteristic.
So its somewhat understandable that people have fixated on him and his survival, even if ultimately futile.
People can't accept that sometimes people die due to circumstances beyond anyones control.
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He's arguably the most famous, or at least iconic, non-god Warhammer Fantasy character.
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Actually, he ends up finishing his Ascension in The End Times and takes up Grimmir´s place...
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No he doesn't.
Obligatory End Times is non-canon here.
Also he's not going to ascend now, you know being crushed by a device of your own creation tends to make ascending to godhood harder.
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I've mapped this out. Most people will accept Age of Sigmar, but most won't accept End Times.
So just think of AOS as an after the apocalypse alternate universe, and End Times as a thing that never happened. It makes things easier.
As an aside, there is an AoS Gotrek book.
So just think of AOS as an after the apocalypse alternate universe, and End Times as a thing that never happened. It makes things easier.
As an aside, there is an AoS Gotrek book.
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I meant in the novels...
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I know. I read Kinslayer and Slayer. He didn't.
You know we talk about Gotrek, but there are actually a lot of Slayers in WHF fiction who seem to last a suspiciously long time.
One might suspect that there are Slayers who get the mohawk and then try to die as soon as possible, and then there's Slayers who get the mohawk and are like, "Well that's it, I'm saved whenever I do die fighting. Long sigh of relief, and now as long as I pick fights reasonably often I might live for decades and still get into dwarf-heaven as long as I die fighting."
One might suspect that there are Slayers who get the mohawk and then try to die as soon as possible, and then there's Slayers who get the mohawk and are like, "Well that's it, I'm saved whenever I do die fighting. Long sigh of relief, and now as long as I pick fights reasonably often I might live for decades and still get into dwarf-heaven as long as I die fighting."
Mopman43
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Autocorrect or intentional?
Personally, I've got nothing against AoS- it certainly seems to have quite a few fans, and I can agree that what little I've seen of it seems interesting enough, though I'm not interested in looking into it further.
I mean, Airship Goldpunk Dwarfs is pretty banging, frankly.
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You make a good argument.
Mopman43
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Far as I'm aware, fighting as hard as you can is an important part of the whole deal, you're not supposed to just stand there and let them stab you.
I think the personality types that tend to go slayer aren't usually the types to think to themselves about how they just need to do the bare minimum expected of them from now on.
A lot of their life span is probably due to travel time, takes a long time to go places, then if they don't die it seems they often return to Karak Kadrin to wait for a new suitable sighting.
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The canon version of gotrek even survived the apocalypse (which IMO was not the end times but instead something much less stupid) into AoS and is now hunting down Grimnir.
Unfortunately grimnir exploded into tiny pieces in a mutual kill with a giant god salamander.
So you know, business as usual.
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There also might be something about not going out with the intention to fight trolls, if you've already killed a bunch of trolls? You have to (aim to) go fight a giant instead, or it looks like you weren't really trying. And, of course, it's a worthier doom and it looks like you have the chops for it.
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I mean, statistically, the majority of Slayers most likely die in their first few battles, given how they don't wear any armor and may not even have been full-time warriors before they felt the need to commit suicide by monster. The thing about going to the trouble of establishing a named character is that you have to keep them around, which leads to named Slayers throwing themselves at bigger and bigger gribblies and not dying.
One thing that does bother me is the whole Slayer Kings thing. How has not one king in that entire lineage for who knows how long not managed to die in battle?
One thing that does bother me is the whole Slayer Kings thing. How has not one king in that entire lineage for who knows how long not managed to die in battle?
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