It would look extremely odd and someone would have to water them, but it would work. They could be lined up on the upper deck.
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It would look extremely odd and someone would have to water them, but it would work. They could be lined up on the upper deck.
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OK, so mockery of death can buy us some extra time if we can find live animals. More than we might expect if we're willing to recast spells when the week-long duration runs out.
@BoneyM how much of a food supply could we store this way before we run into significant miscast risks from casting the spell too often?
@BoneyM how much of a food supply could we store this way before we run into significant miscast risks from casting the spell too often?
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Okay, that actually really helpful.
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Would we need to add this as a write in? Or can it be done automatically on top of whatever we were planning to do?
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OK, with this I am changing my vote. The Dolgan are now essential components of the plan, because they are our best hope for livestock we can store on the hoof and not just in cold rooms.
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Uh, is "water them" a euphemism or literal in this case?
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NexusEye
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"Everyone put a piece of paper with you name on it into the hat. Whoever's selected has to go water the Zhufokri's corpse cows. When did our lives get this weird?"
There's no animals to do it to here, so it wouldn't make sense as a write-in. Mathilde will bring it up when discussing the food situation.
Water as a verb can mean to give a drink of water to an animal.
Damn, I love being a wizard. You've got problems, magic's got answers.
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Ah, I recall instances of that in literature now.
It doesn't suspend dietary requirements.
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Okay, congrats, I did not think of that at all and it's an excellent idea under the circumstances.
How about the demigryph and wolves?
kfrar
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...Neat.
On that note, if things do break down with the Dolgan, killing miscellaneous Chaos raiders and eating their horses was one of the food contingencies. While it would certainly be more difficult, we could theoretically go for live captures on horses instead.
On that note, if things do break down with the Dolgan, killing miscellaneous Chaos raiders and eating their horses was one of the food contingencies. While it would certainly be more difficult, we could theoretically go for live captures on horses instead.
Or just buy them.
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Thinking on it, I suspect the limit on the mockery of death idea will be the animals food requirements.
They can probably last 3 weeks before starving, though I suspect they'll lose enough body-mass that they'll be more-or-less useless by the end of week 2. Which means that this trick probably maxes out at 2 weeks worth of food. Still enough to solve our food issues if we can get live animals though.
They can probably last 3 weeks before starving, though I suspect they'll lose enough body-mass that they'll be more-or-less useless by the end of week 2. Which means that this trick probably maxes out at 2 weeks worth of food. Still enough to solve our food issues if we can get live animals though.
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Chiming in to add my congratulations on this excellent idea.
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... Or, you know
We could kill them, eat their horses and then wrangle up their livestock
With 100 demigryphs it'd be near effortless to locate their grazing herds of sheep or cow
And said demigryphs and giant wolves would likewise make wrangling said domestic herds fairly trivial
No need to complicate combat by trying to avoid killing their mounts
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You're a genius
It's such a brilliant idea I'm almost upset it never occured to me
With their metabolic processes slowed down by total inactivity their livestock will easily last the trip so long as we keep them watered
And we'll bump up our storage capacity more than enough to make up for the lost Steam Wagon
Considering the alternative is likely to be starvation for five hundred people and two hundred mounts, I think Mathilde can risk a little miscasting.
After a lot of googling and head-scratching and number crunching, the capacity of the upper deck of each steam-wagon is about 60 cows, which works out to almost exactly one week of food. Which sounds like an ass-pull on my part to keep the numbers simple, so I'll do my primary school maths teacher proud and show my working.
Dwarf/human food requirements: 3 pounds per day times 520ish people equals about 11 000 pounds per week.
Wolf/demigryph food requirements: 25 pounds per day times 200 mounts equals 35 000 pounds per week.
Total: 46 000 pounds per week.
1000 pounds is about right for the cows - steers tend to be bigger than that and bulls much bigger but modern cows have advantages that steppe horde ones don't so it works out, more or less. Figure about a quarter of their weight is bone because these are probably going to be on the skinnier side, so 750 pounds of meat and offal per animal. The Demigryphs and wolves aren't picky, so anything not bone can be considered useful meat.
Steam-wagon capacity is determined through this highly scientific method:
30 per side, 60 per steam-wagon. 60 cows times 750 pounds equals 45 000 pounds.
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Is there absolutely nothing that can be done about the Rockfall with magic or engineering?
It's an avalanche from above right? Not a section of the road collapsing?
Someone rigging up a bulldozer blade to a steam wagon?
Johann uses his super strength on it?
I saw some mention of burning shadows being essentially useless against rock this acid-resistant, but what if we burned that powerstone we brought along, would burning shadows, or maybe substance of shadow, be able to have a useful effect then?
Is there absolutely nothing that can be done about the Rockfall with magic or engineering?
It's an avalanche from above right? Not a section of the road collapsing?
Someone rigging up a bulldozer blade to a steam wagon?
Johann uses his super strength on it?
I saw some mention of burning shadows being essentially useless against rock this acid-resistant, but what if we burned that powerstone we brought along, would burning shadows, or maybe substance of shadow, be able to have a useful effect then?
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This makes sense, and I'm totally willing to accept it for the sake of mathematical simplicity, but what if we stacked cows on top of each other, in triangles of cows? They're stiff and it won't affect their wellbeing enough for our purposes, I think.
I do very much appreciate the beauty of your cow-counting method, though.
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