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Mathilde rides a shadowhorse, which is a kind of horse. We have at least one!
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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No. Cavalry is a term for all mounted troops, it can even be machines. There's specific words for subtypes, but the general word is cavalry. It might have different etymological roots, but that's how it's used and understood today.
Given Mathilde's size, it's more like a pony. /joke
ShyPerson
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Usage of elephants and camels in warfare is called elephantry and camelry, so its an easy extrapolation.
Furthermore it means that the setting has gryphonry, dragonry, cold onery, boary, giant spidery, stagey, and whatever the marauding followers of chaos try to mount up northery. I can keep going, but I think my point is sufficiently made.
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Yep. The US cavalry is a helicopter force these days.
one thing people have not really talked out is that is that 'lead the Wizards, Knightly Orders, and Asarnil' is that it's also a good way to get better relationships and connections with the greater empire, and learn to lead its forces.
going forward, we will be asked to do stuff that will need us having leading experience.
we are not only a LM, but the closest thing to an archmage for this part of the Old World.
we will be leading armies when a crisis hits.
extreme, but not unlikely scenario: beast-herds hits needed mass and explode out of Averland forest. everyone nearby (including the border princes and the mountains) gets called to help and the general in charge divides the forces among the senor staff to chase them around the countryside
including the LM that beat the thunderbowl that was K8Ps.
that's just one case were even the hermit that is Mathy will have to lead whether or not she wants too.
better to get used to it.
going forward, we will be asked to do stuff that will need us having leading experience.
we are not only a LM, but the closest thing to an archmage for this part of the Old World.
we will be leading armies when a crisis hits.
extreme, but not unlikely scenario: beast-herds hits needed mass and explode out of Averland forest. everyone nearby (including the border princes and the mountains) gets called to help and the general in charge divides the forces among the senor staff to chase them around the countryside
including the LM that beat the thunderbowl that was K8Ps.
that's just one case were even the hermit that is Mathy will have to lead whether or not she wants too.
better to get used to it.
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That is a good point: using this to build our own experience and credibility. I think we've lead two armies in successful battle, and Mathilde's K8P blitz is likely to be required reading for more radical dwarf commanders, but those were just battles. This is a campaign- the experience with rota, routines, logistics, discipline, and foresight are what this offers in terms of filling gaps in Mathilde's role as a commander.
I think the knights absolutely offer the best bang for the self-improvement buck in those terms.
Also, as we know from being a Thane, having someone as a legitimate commander once makes it a lot easier to fall into that dynamic in the future. So if we want to be able to borrow knights for muscle in the future the way we borrow Hammerers now, taking command is the way to get those opportunities.
I think the knights absolutely offer the best bang for the self-improvement buck in those terms.
Also, as we know from being a Thane, having someone as a legitimate commander once makes it a lot easier to fall into that dynamic in the future. So if we want to be able to borrow knights for muscle in the future the way we borrow Hammerers now, taking command is the way to get those opportunities.
fictionfan
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We might be able buy magic using only money now without having to use favor.
Can't remember if the grandmaster salary was 120 GC per season or per year.
At the very least we got rid of the tithe so that's something. There's probably going to be more perks of being a LM to be explored later.
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IIRC there will be no more perks. A big reason why the players and Mathilde didn't really show interest in the title is because it wouldn't really do anything for us. Wouldn't get us an appreciable amount more influence, power, or access and the tithe we were paying was already very minor.
Personal Wealth: 1,518 Stirland gold crowns, 114 Reikland gold crowns, 861 K8P gold coins, 116 K8P silver ingots.
when(if) we get back, we really need to do something with the 1,518 Stirland gold crowns, before people start asking about the vow of poverty.
we can literally buy a dwarf made fortress and a half with that much.
the only thing keeping us in the good books is that we don't horad.
soo, people, big project ideas?
I like TP towers.
one in K8Ps
one In stirland (underground mansion)
one in Altdorf (college office.)
one in Sylvania (Dwarf fortress)
Room for more as we need.
1: makes travel not a thing.
2: add the underground mansion to our 'house'. which is just fucking cool once fixed up. (we can literally do a Dr Who 'its bigger on the inside' trick on our guests.)
everyone who don't know magic well enough will think we figured out how to do the mansion in the bottle trick.
I really don't like people saying that 'we don't get anything' from it.
no, we don't get a mathematically stat or goodie from it.
what we get is a hell of a lot more passive cultural, social, legal and political power.
we are high nobility now.
we will never get a number on the character sheet from it, but we can now walk into a room and tell anyone below the rank of baron what to do.
when(if) we get back, we really need to do something with the 1,518 Stirland gold crowns, before people start asking about the vow of poverty.
we can literally buy a dwarf made fortress and a half with that much.
the only thing keeping us in the good books is that we don't horad.
soo, people, big project ideas?
I like TP towers.
one in K8Ps
one In stirland (underground mansion)
one in Altdorf (college office.)
one in Sylvania (Dwarf fortress)
Room for more as we need.
1: makes travel not a thing.
2: add the underground mansion to our 'house'. which is just fucking cool once fixed up. (we can literally do a Dr Who 'its bigger on the inside' trick on our guests.)
everyone who don't know magic well enough will think we figured out how to do the mansion in the bottle trick.
I really don't like people saying that 'we don't get anything' from it.
no, we don't get a mathematically stat or goodie from it.
what we get is a hell of a lot more passive cultural, social, legal and political power.
we are high nobility now.
we will never get a number on the character sheet from it, but we can now walk into a room and tell anyone below the rank of baron what to do.
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Its more if we end up having to fight in Dum or around mountain environment that sort of area.
Steppe is fine for independent Knight command.
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You know I did mention influence and power as the things we don't get with LM, so it was pretty clear I was thinking about that and not simply "numbers on the character sheet". And I assert we don't. We're already Loremaster of Karak EIght Peaks, we already have deeds and titles giving weight to our words, we're still able to research whatever we want so long as it's not proscribed. Lady Magister didn't give us anything new, it was just recognition of all we had.
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@Jyn Ryvia Pretty sure that the TP towers sill have to be actual towers, so our underground mansion is probably not a valid candidate. And I also don't think building a personal tower in the Grey College proper is an option, except maybe for exorbitant college favor.
That said, both our estate at Sonnigwiese and some random plot of land at the outskirts of Altdorf should be valid options.
That said, both our estate at Sonnigwiese and some random plot of land at the outskirts of Altdorf should be valid options.
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Dwarf holds are pretty huge and Demis and Wolves are well adapted to fighting in close confins anyway. Other then the time argument (which Boney talks about in the update) I really can't see any downside to commanding the Knights.
Asheram
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Considering that The Loremaster is by law the military leader when the thane and commander are unavailable, as we experienced in the Battle for the Caldera, it's not too far a stretch to suggest that The Loremaster does have a legal leg to stand on when it comes to commanding anything traditionally Non-Dwarven in a military operation.
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I think you are misunderstanding how the Vow of Poverty works, and how it is enforced. We don't need to spend money just because it's accumulating.
TP towers are more of a research project than an expenditure at this stage, so earmarking funds for it doesn't make sense at the moment.
There is one upcoming thing we can spend money on though, and that's the Boon vote. Specifically, the Research Institute, and funding it ourselves.
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and as a Lord Magister we are equal (or even above) the Grandmasters in imperial Order of Battle.
Not true about it having to be a tower.
Towers are just wizard style.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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One thing we could do with it is to fund that Seviroscope research by the golds, as they seem to accept gold as well as college favors.
edit: But something to speak of after we rescue any potential Rune Lords from KD.
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You forgot the third use. To create "blackmail" material that makes people think that they can control and subvert a Grey Magister while actually having nothing of note on them.
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We cannot. Can't remember if it's a vow of poverty thing or a game mechanics thing. We need to spend favours if we want work on it done.
Asheram
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Ah. Blast. I was hoping there was some leeway since the Golds (Johann and Max) apparently used gold to get things done internally.
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I don't know if this is the kind of gaming the system that the QM frowns upon, but we could just hand the gold to Max so that he makes the request for us in his own name.