I think we had a chance to get a trait once that was a +40 bonus to Assassination
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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I think we had a chance to get a trait once that was a +40 bonus to Assassination
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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Bleh. I'd somehow forgotten about those.
Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
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@Redshirt Army this is a little off-topic but I'm looking for that post of how Elves would see our stats when/if we go on the Elfcation. It was fun to read and I'm trying to find it again, can you help me out?
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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I think the Assassination trait got downgraded the following times it appeared? Could be wrong, though, as it's been a while.
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The Great One
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She has three actually. The teleportation one, the time-warping mist and Rite of Way.Actually she has to BM spells one of which she made herself. Rather than learn Colege standard spells we could just make a list of our own staff enhanced spells. The Lore of Mathilde Weber, it's perfectly safe to cast from if your name is Mathilde Weber.
Elves see all our stats the way a human would see our stats -10.
That is not technically a spell, it's the lore attribute, every battle mage has that, even the ones who formally know 1 spell
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Yeah it did.
Worth noting that the broader a trait is, the smaller the bonus is gives from what we've seen.
The infiltration trait from the same list as the original Assassination gave like +10, there was IIRC a middle-of-the-road trait for +20 and then Assassination at +40.
+20 bonuses are momentous. Reading the Liber Mortis, witnessing the Ork Gods (and like three crits when fighting shamans in the same battle). Ranald's intervention. Being a prodigy with a chargen trait.
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Worth noting that the broader a trait is, the smaller the bonus is gives from what we've seen.
The infiltration trait from the same list as the original Assassination gave like +10, there was IIRC a middle-of-the-road trait for +20 and then Assassination at +40.
+20 bonuses are momentous. Reading the Liber Mortis, witnessing the Ork Gods (and like three crits when fighting shamans in the same battle). Ranald's intervention. Being a prodigy with a chargen trait.
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And Assassin has since been downgraded, numerically.
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You'll note that I literally specified "Advanced Battle Mage". A cute little babby Battle Mage has absolutely no business trying to learn literally the hardest spell in the book, Okkam's Mind Razor. They should stick to the shallow end of the Battle Magic Pool, which my speculation puts at a more reasonable ~DC 140.
Actually she has two BM spells one of which she made herself. Rather than learn Colege standard spells we could just make a list of our own staff enhanced spells. The Lore of Mathilde Weber, it's perfectly safe to cast from if your name is Mathilde Weber.
I was thinking about the turn Mathilde was made Lady Magister and derped out. Yes, Mathilde is going places now - even over steep terrain!
Still learning Pit of Shades or the Pendulum wouldn't go amiss particularly as Algard said that the Grey College pocket dimension uses the same principles.
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I think you're seriously overestimating the numbers, here. The DC for Rite of Way would have been 100, and that's about where I'd expect Melkoth's Miasma to be difficulty wise.
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That would mean that we are advisor quality in most of our stats even for elves... and a bumbler in diplomacy.
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Pretty much. By elf standards, we're the equivalent of:
Diplomacy: 4 - A clumsy oaf, easily tripped up by the nuances of discussion and the subtleties of insult - but what more can you expect from a human?
Martial: 13 - Capable enough to defend herself, I suppose.
Stewardship: 9 - Not entirely hopeless in this domain, although she continues to lack some foundational basics.
Intrigue: 14 - She has some basic skill in this area, and can become quite dangerous when this is augmented by basic Ulgu usage.
Piety: 16 - She worships a strange human reflection of Loec, but does so with true intensity and drive.
Learning: 17 - Legitimately quite intelligent, and eager to learn more from the true masters of the Winds.
... or, at least, that's my best attempt to guess what elven snobbery would look like.
We've progressed a little since then, though. We're Intrigue 15, now.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I see. We're not allowed to go until all our elf stats are in the double digits, are we?We've progressed a little since then, though. We're Intrigue 15, now,
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Ah yes, the old thinking of how your average elf farmer can swordfight a Warboss with one hand while casting battle magic with the other.
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We've progressed a little since then, though. We're Intrigue 15, now,
Reminder that 12 is low quality advisor level and 16 is considered advisor level for rreasonably wealthy policies. So everything we have above 20 (10 in elvish) would be at the very least enough to deem us a professional.
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I see. We're not allowed to go until all our elf stats are in the double digits, are we?
Nah, I'm cool with going sooner. That said, I'd like to pick up Basic Ulthuan diplomacy before we go, and finishing off Bretonnia and Kislev Diplomacy might give us another point, so we'd be rocking a whole Diplomacy 6 instead of 4.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
We should get basic ulthuan diplomacy in at some point anyway for the waystone project - we'll want to have a handle on the elven mindset because I guarantee there'll be geopolitical ramifications or they'll have done something silly like tied the waystone network directly into their monarchy.
Huh, the teleport rescue item speculated in there has gotten a fair bit more plausible. Something to consider after returning form the expedition.
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Not monarchy, only their afterlife.
High elves bond with waystones of Ulthuan and their souls are stored in them after they die.
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Aren't you thinking Eldar?
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Sounds like something from one of the later editions where GW were just making the elves Eldar, so it might not be the case in DL.
No that particular bit of silliness did bleed into Fantasy canonically. Hoping BoneyM ignores to be be honest.
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Yeah, looking at wiki its from 8th edition.
Thought that it was older.