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- Aotearoa
As were spending the action to examine them, let's do that first. Then, use what we know to supplement that means of transport as we take one to Altdorf, if we think it prudent.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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I'm not going to say you shouldn't think like this, just be aware that doing so gives me a pretty powerful tool to instil paranoia for my own amusement.
Dadarian
The King of Queen's
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- Queen's on the Shore
[x] Plan Backlog
-[x] The Wurtbad Watch already has their ear to the ground. Make their information flow to you.
-[x] Personally vet everyone that works in the castle, and replace everyone you're not sure of the loyalties of
-[x] Much of Western Stirland is under the de facto direct control of the Elector Count. Meet with each of the local leaders and make it clear that you're to be kept in the loop.
-[x] Van Hal is considering candidates for the post of Marshal, and he has asked you to vet them. Investigate them in person.
--[x] That damn Asp has still been quiet, but maybe it's just biding it's time. Finally admit it's existence to your contacts back in the College and see if they know anything that can help. *Renald's Blessing*
-[x] Home Comforts: Your Palace-Shrine is bursting with potential. And also mud.
--[x] Diggy Diggy Hole, Outsourced: Pay someone to do the digging, then Mindhole them on their way out. (no action required, -personal gold)
-[x] A large number of Shyish-stained weapons were uncovered from the Barrow. Perhaps you should:
--[x] Examine them yourself and see if they're useful, or dangerous, or both.
---[x] Bring an example or two to show your master while you are there.
----[X] Lead-lined steel case. Magic lock on top of mundane one.
Reposting for Renald's Blessing
-[x] The Wurtbad Watch already has their ear to the ground. Make their information flow to you.
-[x] Personally vet everyone that works in the castle, and replace everyone you're not sure of the loyalties of
-[x] Much of Western Stirland is under the de facto direct control of the Elector Count. Meet with each of the local leaders and make it clear that you're to be kept in the loop.
-[x] Van Hal is considering candidates for the post of Marshal, and he has asked you to vet them. Investigate them in person.
--[x] That damn Asp has still been quiet, but maybe it's just biding it's time. Finally admit it's existence to your contacts back in the College and see if they know anything that can help. *Renald's Blessing*
-[x] Home Comforts: Your Palace-Shrine is bursting with potential. And also mud.
--[x] Diggy Diggy Hole, Outsourced: Pay someone to do the digging, then Mindhole them on their way out. (no action required, -personal gold)
-[x] A large number of Shyish-stained weapons were uncovered from the Barrow. Perhaps you should:
--[x] Examine them yourself and see if they're useful, or dangerous, or both.
---[x] Bring an example or two to show your master while you are there.
----[X] Lead-lined steel case. Magic lock on top of mundane one.
Reposting for Renald's Blessing
- Location
- Memphis, TN
- Location
- Burgundian Netherlands
Aah, I forgot it didn't take an action, I'm all for it then.
And I see your points, I'm just leery of the action popping up, and we know too little about Kasimir as it is. Might just be my paranoia though.
"Widen the local network" is pretty straightforward direction, thankfully. It cuts the Found a Trade Guild and Western Stirland options, because they're not based in Wurtbad, while investigating the castle workforce and following up on Kasmir's report aren't expanding the network. Wurtbad Watch and the city guilds, it is.
Marshal candidates is probably the second or third priority after taking actions towards our assignment, so that's in. I'd like to go personally, both because that's what Van Hal wants and because I prefer an actual scene to reading a letter. Castle zombies are obviously keeping for now (if with a bit of a stench), but if we can fit it in either the Anton action or looking at the weapons would be a good idea, I think.
We definitely want to collect some lieutenants, but I'm not sure where from just yet. Nothing else seems particularly necessary at the moment, although personally I'd like to do Letters Home sooner rather than later. Remember, the only information we have on the person or organisation that put us here is that they wanted to know about Anton -- getting a clue, anything at all, from our Master would put us a lot closer to learning more about them.
I'd rather go with enchantment over anything else if we take the sword action this turn. Otherwise, we've still got a couple of spells we can revise into usefulness. I'd prefer not to go with another Greatsword action just yet.
I've got no idea what we'd want to do with the cleared room. Lab? Library? We don't really have the money for anything fancy at the moment, so I'm sort of lost. Outsourced digging is probably a good idea, though; no action and a chance of finding something cool is hard to pass up.
The Asp is a definite yes, since we just told the count that we'd be looking into it. Perhaps a magic action, if we can fit it? Undead research can wait, but if some particularly interested person wanted to fit it into their plan, they could make a fairly thematic turn featuring it and the castle undead action above.
Doesn't seem particularly worth it at the moment. If anyone has any particular ideas, though, I'm all ears.
Here's what I'm thinking:
[ ] Plan Unfinished Plan
-[ ] The Wurtbad Watch already has their ear to the ground. Make their information flow to you.
-[ ] Wurtbad, like all major cities, is home to a number of guilds. Reach out to them and enforce your will.
-[ ] A large number of Shyish-stained weapons were uncovered from the Barrow. Perhaps you should:
--[ ] Examine them yourself and see if they're useful, or dangerous, or both.
-[ ] You're naturally talented at enchantment; so far, this just amounts to being able to make your desk meow for about an hour. See if you can improve on that, or at least figure out a way to make that useful.
-[ ] Diggy Diggy Hole, Outsourced: Pay someone to do the digging, then Mindhole them on their way out. (no action required, -personal gold)
-[ ] Go to Altdorf:
--[ ] Van Hal is considering candidates for the post of Marshal, and he has asked you to vet them. Investigate them in person.
--[ ] That damn Asp has still been quiet, but maybe it's just biding it's time. Finally admit it's existence to your contacts back in the College and see if they know anything that can help.
--[ ] Letters Home: You might be able to wring more information out of your Master, or you might just be able to get news, information and guidance in general from the Grey Order.
@BoneyM, would I need to replace Letters Home with a write-in if I wanted to get the information in person?
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- Memphis, TN
Thank you
@TotallyNotEvil Do you mind adding this to your plan since it will improve our relationship with him and making it easier for people to talk if they see a Sigmar priest is with us
- Location
- Brazil
Ok, added Brother Kasmir to help us vet the staff.
Do people have a strong preferrence or another for the Blessing? I'm leaning towards the weapons because we might literally get a blessing from it and it has good odds of improving our enchanting skill if we succeed.
Do people have a strong preferrence or another for the Blessing? I'm leaning towards the weapons because we might literally get a blessing from it and it has good odds of improving our enchanting skill if we succeed.
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- USA
I don't see the count allowing us both the renald cult thieves guild AND the monopolistic trade league. So if I have to choose one, I will go for the renald cult as it fits a lot better with us so far. Also remember it is only even an option because of a renald blessing backed critsuccess on contacting the thieves guild resulting in them receiving a prophecy about us. So let's dismantle the league and make a push for the cult instead.
[x] Plan Renald Cult
-[x] PREDECESSOR LOYALTY: I think that even if they were merely self serving and incompetent, it is not something we can risk betting on. A well entrenched spymaster could do a lot of damage if he really works with vampires. I think the risk of letting him go is too high.
-[x] PREDECESSOR APPROACH: The rot lives on; we must excise it.
-[x] STIRLANDIAN LEAGUE: Do not clasp the snake to your bosom. Destroy the League.
--[x] Stirland economy is in poor shape, and the league carries much of the blame. It completely cripples trade that it isn't doing, which in turn lets it prey on local businesses and cripple their growth as well, and its tax exemptions make things even worse. While it is a bit of a shame to lose out on such an impressive intelligence engine. We can still do our job without crippling the economy.
[x] As Per Orders: Perform your current assignment.
-[x] The Wurtbad Watch already has their ear to the ground. Make their information flow to you.
-[x] Personally vet everyone that works in the castle, and replace everyone you're not sure of the loyalties of.
--[x] Coordinate with Kasmir on this one
[x] Backtracking and Side Operations:
-[x] Van Hal is considering candidates for the post of Marshal, and he has asked you to vet them. Investigate them via correspondence.
-[x] A large number of Shyish-stained weapons were uncovered from the Barrow. Perhaps you should:
--[x] Examine them yourself and see if they're useful, or dangerous, or both.
[x] Research:
-[x] This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[x] That damn Asp has still been quiet, but maybe it's just biding it's time. Finally admit it's existence to your contacts back in the College and see if they know anything that can help.
--[x] Renald Blessing
[x] Home Comforts: Your Palace-Shrine is bursting with potential. And also mud.
-[x] Diggy Diggy Hole, Outsourced: Pay someone to do the digging, then Mindhole them on their way out. (no action required, -personal gold)
Write to college about asp and asking for info about candidates. Study undead because it is stirland. Get those weapons vetted now because I don't trust others to do it and the sooner we do this the sooner they can be placed in the hands of the trusted fighters under the count and make a big difference in engagements.
Vetting the staff and expanding our network to the watch just makes sense. Diggy that doesn't require actions, because it doesn't require actions
[x] Plan Renald Cult
-[x] PREDECESSOR LOYALTY: I think that even if they were merely self serving and incompetent, it is not something we can risk betting on. A well entrenched spymaster could do a lot of damage if he really works with vampires. I think the risk of letting him go is too high.
-[x] PREDECESSOR APPROACH: The rot lives on; we must excise it.
-[x] STIRLANDIAN LEAGUE: Do not clasp the snake to your bosom. Destroy the League.
--[x] Stirland economy is in poor shape, and the league carries much of the blame. It completely cripples trade that it isn't doing, which in turn lets it prey on local businesses and cripple their growth as well, and its tax exemptions make things even worse. While it is a bit of a shame to lose out on such an impressive intelligence engine. We can still do our job without crippling the economy.
[x] As Per Orders: Perform your current assignment.
-[x] The Wurtbad Watch already has their ear to the ground. Make their information flow to you.
-[x] Personally vet everyone that works in the castle, and replace everyone you're not sure of the loyalties of.
--[x] Coordinate with Kasmir on this one
[x] Backtracking and Side Operations:
-[x] Van Hal is considering candidates for the post of Marshal, and he has asked you to vet them. Investigate them via correspondence.
-[x] A large number of Shyish-stained weapons were uncovered from the Barrow. Perhaps you should:
--[x] Examine them yourself and see if they're useful, or dangerous, or both.
[x] Research:
-[x] This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[x] That damn Asp has still been quiet, but maybe it's just biding it's time. Finally admit it's existence to your contacts back in the College and see if they know anything that can help.
--[x] Renald Blessing
[x] Home Comforts: Your Palace-Shrine is bursting with potential. And also mud.
-[x] Diggy Diggy Hole, Outsourced: Pay someone to do the digging, then Mindhole them on their way out. (no action required, -personal gold)
Write to college about asp and asking for info about candidates. Study undead because it is stirland. Get those weapons vetted now because I don't trust others to do it and the sooner we do this the sooner they can be placed in the hands of the trusted fighters under the count and make a big difference in engagements.
Vetting the staff and expanding our network to the watch just makes sense. Diggy that doesn't require actions, because it doesn't require actions
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- Memphis, TN
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- Aotearoa
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And don't forget the blessing. Asp or swords, probably.
I could definitely get behind Enchanting practise alongside sword checking. I see synergies there. But... let's get on top the castle staff. I think it's a higher priority than guilds, and we're not just vetting the staff- we're *recruiting* some of them and replacing others with our agents.
And don't forget the blessing. Asp or swords, probably.
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- Brazil
I read that as widening the *Stirland* network, but I was also divided between castle and guilds.
However, the guilds will keep. The castle staff being compromise means it's a terrifying breach of security.
It's also under "Do your Job". So I'm pretty sure it counts.
@edit: And reading the option, Western Stirland is the Count's backyard.
I'm not terribly attached to it, could go for guilds too.
I've proposed a plan essentially identical to this.
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I'd assume that was what was meant, but it's always best to write-in details like that.
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- USA
Ok, sure.
Also, where should I put renald blessing? I am thinking the ASP or the candidate vetting
edit: done. added kasmir and put blessing on asp
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Two actions difference is a lot when the plans only have six or seven actions. Not nearly close enough for me.
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- Aotearoa
I do like your plan... would you consider replacing western stirland with Enchantment practise? It synergies really well with the swords ("how were they made?"), going to Altdorf, digging out an Enchantment lab, buying some tools in Altdorf...
- Location
- Brazil
I'm sorely tempted, but my thinking is that the weapons will still be there if we want them as aid to enchanting.
Getting a network up and running ASAP is weight more heavily thant that.
But again, sorely tempted. If people feel like Enchanting in favor of Wester Stirland, I will swap it.
Brief assessment, then work, then actual vote.
[ ] Weigh in - write-ins justifying a decision will have much greater weight. No action point expenditure.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR LOYALTY: Their self-serving nature and incompetence only gave the Von Carsteins an opportunity.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR LOYALTY: I believe that they were truly suborned by the Von Carsteins.
I'm like 70% sure he's suborned. The setup is just too perfect with the Carsteins knowing things like where our ledgers are hidden and how to take them outunnoticed, etc.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR APPROACH: The damage is done; we must repair it.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR APPROACH: The rot lives on; we must excise it.
Personally leaning towards excise. If they are subverted by vampires, that also means undead spies and agents on top of the living ones. Where we might tolerate some agents, the undead are intolerable.
-[ ] STIRLANDIAN LEAGUE: Do not clasp the snake to your bosom. Destroy the League.
-[ ] STIRLANDIAN LEAGUE: Do not waste such a potent resource. Claim the League.
Thus as with the above, the League has to be dismantled. An intelligence resource you can neither trace nor trust is poison.
[ ] Weigh in - write-ins justifying a decision will have much greater weight. No action point expenditure.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR LOYALTY: Their self-serving nature and incompetence only gave the Von Carsteins an opportunity.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR LOYALTY: I believe that they were truly suborned by the Von Carsteins.
I'm like 70% sure he's suborned. The setup is just too perfect with the Carsteins knowing things like where our ledgers are hidden and how to take them outunnoticed, etc.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR APPROACH: The damage is done; we must repair it.
-[ ] PREDECESSOR APPROACH: The rot lives on; we must excise it.
Personally leaning towards excise. If they are subverted by vampires, that also means undead spies and agents on top of the living ones. Where we might tolerate some agents, the undead are intolerable.
-[ ] STIRLANDIAN LEAGUE: Do not clasp the snake to your bosom. Destroy the League.
-[ ] STIRLANDIAN LEAGUE: Do not waste such a potent resource. Claim the League.
Thus as with the above, the League has to be dismantled. An intelligence resource you can neither trace nor trust is poison.
Uh, our boss said he prefers us going in person even if we have to leave the city for a while
- Location
- Brazil
You might be interested in this:
There's also a very nice action plan in the same post.
DarkLight140
Credit to Team
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- Lost in my thoughts
If we're actually traveling to Altdorf and stopping in at the Colleges, can we get away with accomplishing this without spending an entire action on it? Presumably they have organized spell component collection there which we could just stop in and buy over the course of an afternoon (if likely at a markup) rather than needing to personally hunt down highly specific items in an environment not at all well suited to supplying the needs of wizards. Or at the very least, we could give an extra bunch of gold to an apprentice who understands what we'd need and then have them get the components for us while we do other things and pick up the results of their shopping trip before we leave town.
- Location
- USA
@BoneyM how big is the weapons chest? can we strap it to the back of our shadow horse in order to carry it to altdorf on a personal trip to have our master examine them? Or are they so big we would need a seperate cart for them?
If we can strap them on, I say we take the trip. Strap the weapons on the back, personally investigate the candidates, and consult our master about the asp and maybe even get rid of it.
If we can strap them on, I say we take the trip. Strap the weapons on the back, personally investigate the candidates, and consult our master about the asp and maybe even get rid of it.
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- Burgundian Netherlands
Firstly, we won't ask Van Hal if he's fine with us building out a Ranald cult, we ask him if he approves of us priming the criminal underground into a more efficient tool for information gathering, which would result in more organised crime, but less violent crime (as we'd be in charge of course). Mentioning Ranald in all but the vaguest terms will make him think we're doing it because of Ranald, which will then open up an undesirable line of questioning and gives him (partially) the wrong idea.
Secondly, he's not giving us these things like he's rewarding his spymaster for performed services, he will approve of both if he thinks they have a positive result and we can convince him of that, or he will approve of neither when he doesn't feel convinced that the negatives outstrip the positives. You're presenting them as mutually exclusive options, which just isn't correct.