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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Thomasfoolery said:
Yeah, I don't actually think our godson will be a good Emperor unless he gets a lot of counter indoctrination from other sources to balance out what his mother feeds him. I imagine she'll wrangle her way into being his primary educator though.
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I mean, she's favored by Shallya, so there's a limit of how shitty she can be. And if given the choice between a priest of Ranald and a noble on an ego trip, Ranald is definitely the better choice. Mandred is going to tend pretty hard towards the realpolitik end of things, but he'll probably also be able to fake idealism really well, so it works out.

And let's not forget he's a person and can have opinions differing from his mother and fairy godmother.
Ericwinter said:
I mean... I don't think there's an explicit God of Madness around, is there? Kathy can totally be the new Sheogorath! :V
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You missspelt Magic, but don't worry, that happens often. It can drive a girl bonkers, really.
 
BurnNote said:
I'd be interested in a College social action in general though. Talk to our (very) former peers, about how we're now court wizard, and have they finished their apprenticeship yet?
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Mathilde once tried writing them shortly after she was appointed Stirland's spymistress. She suspected she got no replies because the RNG hated the players she was probably too gloating.
 
silentorphan said:
Mathilde once tried writing them shortly after she was appointed Stirland's spymistress. She suspected she got no replies because the RNG hated the players she was probably too gloating.
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Exactly. If we go to them, they can't escape our gloating.

I all seriousness, I do think seeing her interact with her childhood friends/acquaintances could be fun. And seeing what a few other, "normal" greys have done in the time since she left the college would be interesting (for one, it gives a comparision to judge how awesome Matty is, and I just find that satisfying).
 
silentorphan said:
Mathilde once tried writing them shortly after she was appointed Stirland's spymistress. She suspected she got no replies because the RNG hated the players she was probably too gloating.
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No, if you're going to read that sort of meta-roll-based thing into it, it means Ranald is jealous of his oft-stated position as 'Mathilde's oldest friend' and thus arranged that her cohort received her admittedly less than perfectly diplomatic notes on bad days, when they were feeling grumpy and underappreciated by their tutors and Masters. Thus, they didn't reply immediately, and then neither side followed up, leading to Mathilde feeling a little put out and ignored.
Thus further isolating Mathilde from any other potential rival friendships.
 
Alliterate said:
No, if you're going to read that sort of meta-roll-based thing into it, it means Ranald is jealous of his oft-stated position as 'Mathilde's oldest friend' and thus arranged that her cohort received her admittedly less than perfectly diplomatic notes on bad days, when they were feeling grumpy and underappreciated by their tutors and Masters. Thus, they didn't reply immediately, and then neither side followed up, leading to Mathilde feeling a little put out and ignored.
Thus further isolating Mathilde from any other potential rival friendships.
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Did @Omegahugger hack your account?
 
deathofrats0808 said:
Because people were talking about Mandred becoming Elector Count at relatively young age, and I mentioned that the first reason that popped into my head for Luitpold dying early was that hHeidi had him assassinated to allow that exact situation, before thinking it over led me to realise she has nothing worth it to gain from it.
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Well, it depends on the method. Heidi might be aiming for a death by snu-snu situation - extra plausible deniability plus mixing business with pleasure definitely sounds like something she'd like to do. :V
 
CuttleFish2.0 said:
Because the thread is bored and entertaining itself with anything that pops into its head in the absence of new content. I mean it's slightly less preposterous than talking about blowing up Skavenblight or Morrslieb whcih have each come up more than a few times.

At least we've actually been in the Emperor's presence before and have done something vaguely related to it.
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I mean it was literally our job to figure out how to kill the emperor during our Magister test.
 
silentorphan said:
Mathilde once tried writing them shortly after she was appointed Stirland's spymistress. She suspected she got no replies because the RNG hated the players she was probably too gloating.
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There's always the possibility that the Conspiracy meant that someone high up in the Grey Order told each and everyone Mathilde wrote to, to keep silent. Remember, Regimand wrote to Mathilde in an unusual cipher.
 
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Ericwinter said:
I mean... I don't think there's an explicit God of Madness around, is there? Mathy can totally be the new Sheogorath! :V
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You should probably keep in mind that there are more gods out there than just the big name dudes: hell, one of the RPG books explicitly lists off some of the more minor or proscribed gods and even has a section on creating your own. For example, one such example is an evil harvest god that demands blood sacrifices and is *explicitly* not a chaos god to the point where one of his tennants revolves around not fucking with daemons.

As such I wouldn't be surprised if a god of madness was already a thing.
 
BurnNote said:
We could always assassinate the emperor by blowing up Skavenblight. And if we blow up Morrsleib, we will automatically assassinate the Emperor, as well as everybody else.
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I don't know whether or not the idea of blowing up Morrsleib in a natural chain reaction of exploding dhar is a monumentally stupid idea or an absolutely brilliant one. The crazy thing is that I'm fairly certain the slann could actully pull it off, but they might not actually know the First or Second Secrets of Dhar.

And since Morrsleib is very far away, and the chain reaction would, theoretically, explode all of its warpstone rather than simply breaking it into chunks and then scattering it down to Mallus, it might not actually result in an apocalypse.

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I could totally imagine a series of fucking hilarious omakes exploring this possibility, though. Like, first Mathilde approaches Belegar with her most serious expression. "I have an idea."

And he just looks at her, thinking to himself, this does not bode well, but I'm too damn curious not to ask.

"I want to blow up Morrsleib."

And after he gets over the sheer what, he responds with, "You know, my councilors normally come to me with matters like 'there's a dispute between these two guilds' or 'this is how long it will take to repair this fortification'. I never imagined one of you would come to me with, 'I want to blow up a godsdamn moon.'"

And then Mathilde goes to bring the matter to Algard, and he has his own what moment. And he asks her how. And she responds with, "I'm going to teach the slann the First and Second Secrets of Dhar, which I learned from reading the original Liber Mortis, and propose that they use the Second Secret of Dhar to start a chain reaction that causes Morrsleib to completely blow itself up."

And Algard just puts his head in his hands, and thinks, This is my life now.

Meanwhile, Ranald is watching all of this and cackling nonstop like a fucking loon.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
And since Morrsleib is very far away, and the chain reaction would, theoretically, explode all of its warpstone rather than simply breaking it into chunks and then scattering it down to Mallus, it might not actually result in an apocalypse.
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Read it like this: It would convert a moon's worth of matter into the pure elemental energy of hate and destruction, in a generally accepted model of physics where a grapefruit's worth of matter improperly converted can be said to be capable of destroying a city.

NASA puts the mass of the moon at 7.34767309 × 10^22 kilograms
This website puts a cup of grapefruit at about a quarter of a kilogram.
7.34767309 × 10^22 / 0.25 = 2.9390692e+23, according to Google.

I don't even know what that means, but that's how many times more destructive an explosion than a nuclear bomb you're proposing, when the radioactive nature of the moon is explicitly and problematically quite capable of effecting people from orbit.
 
chocolote12 said:
Read it like this: It would convert a moon's worth of matter into the pure elemental energy of hate and destruction, in a generally accepted model of physics where a grapefruit's worth of matter improperly converted can be said to be capable of destroying a city.

NASA puts the mass of the moon at 7.34767309 × 10^22 kilograms
This website puts a cup of grapefruit at about a quarter of a kilogram.
7.34767309 × 10^22 / 0.25 = 2.9390692e+23, according to Google.

I don't even know what that means, but that's how many times more destructive an explosion than a nuclear bomb you're proposing, when the radioactive nature of the moon is explicitly and problematically quite capable of effecting people from orbit.
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You're not thinking about this properly, the ratling gun experiments have shown us the way forward. Warpstone is attracted to warpstone and warpstone explosions, as Dhar seeks out Dhar. Obviously what is needed is a second exploding warpstone moon on an outbound vector from the planet to draw Morrsleib towards it.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
And then Mathilde goes to bring the matter to Algard, and he has his own what moment. And he asks her how. And she responds with, "I'm going to teach the slann the First and Second Secrets of Dhar, which I learned from reading the original Liber Mortis, and propose that they use the Second Secret of Dhar to start a chain reaction that causes Morrsleib to completely blow itself up."

And Algard just puts his head in his hands, and thinks, This is my life now.
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You forgot the intermediate step where Mathilde gets burnt at the stake for admitting to having read the Liber Mortis.
 
consequences said:
You're not thinking about this properly, the ratling gun experiments have shown us the way forward. Warpstone is attracted to warpstone and warpstone explosions, as Dhar seeks out Dhar. Obviously what is needed is a second exploding warpstone moon on an outbound vector from the planet to draw Morrsleib towards it.
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Or an even larger lump of warpstone, to serve as the initiator/firing pin and send Morrslieb shooting away!
NuclearConsensus said:
You forgot the intermediate step where Mathilde gets burnt at the stake for admitting to having read the Liber Mortis.
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Yeah, there wasn't quite enough manic cackling and proclamations of our (and ours alone) clarity of vision for that scene to quite ring true.
 
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Step one: use Celestial magic to move the chaos moon behind the non-chaos moon.
Step two: induce a chain reaction in the chaos moon, destroying it.
Step three: use more Celestial magic to deflect the exploded remnants of the non-chaos moon you just used as a blast shield.
Step four: use ???? magic to construct a replacement non-chaos moon, preferably before tidal disturbances destroy civilisation.
Step five: gloat atop the rubble.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
I don't know whether or not the idea of blowing up Morrsleib in a natural chain reaction of exploding dhar is a monumentally stupid idea or an absolutely brilliant one. The crazy thing is that I'm fairly certain the slann could actully pull it off, but they might not actually know the First or Second Secrets of Dhar.

And since Morrsleib is very far away, and the chain reaction would, theoretically, explode all of its warpstone rather than simply breaking it into chunks and then scattering it down to Mallus, it might not actually result in an apocalypse.
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The Slaan ARE working on destroying Morrslieb, they're just chipping chunks off to disintegrate as warpstone meteors, which eventually decompose and the Vortex processes it through the ley lines, if everything was working well. But the Waystone network isn't exactly in peak condition so the warpstone still gets knocked off on schedule, but its not dissolved where it lands.

That they are working on chipping bits off on a relatively slow schedule suggests that the main reason they hadn't explosively volatized Morrslieb is that they don't want to deal with the consequences of explosively volatized Morrslieb.
 
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